So, it is in another dimension! Maybe parallel to ours where there is our universe.

When did this happen?

Yes, when? But did Lorne discuss or explain Oddworld creation?

Now if only everyone did this to the bible....

This might be common knowledge, but I was wondering if I'm right because I've never noticed it before. In Abe's Exoddus, in the cutscene where he's sneaking into the boiler room of Soulstorm Brewery, there's a Slig talking on the phone while the Glukkons argue about what they're going to do. I always assumed he was calling in extra security to try and protect the boiler, but on my last playthrough I listened more closely to what he was saying and... is he just selling his (or one of the Glukkon's) stock in Soulstorm Brewery? Because that's a really clever and subtle joke if he is.

Yes. In fact, the LED screens around them all showed stock market data. Unfavourable stock market data.

That's excellent. I never noticed the stock market data before either, I'll have to look out for it next time.

In the early days, during the AE oddworld.com era I think.

One day we will get The Oddworld Archives back up and you will be able to read it.

Why would people criticise something written by people who burnt people because they had a wart on their nose, and who thought disease was caused by having too much blood in your body?

Oddworld does indeed exist in a different universe to us. It’s not ‘alternate’ (or, indeed, alternative), it’s completely separate. This information is old, and most likely comes from an old interview or an old edition of Dear Alf. The soruce isn’t amongst the material we’ve managed to recover from the old Oddworld.com, sadly. Now I can sit back and wait for someone to call this a Nod.

I call bullNod.

Oh ye of subatomic faith. Next you’ll be saying the mass–energy equivalence formula for Oddworld isn’t E = AD².

Energy equals area multiplied by electrical displacement squared? What drivel!

Question: what is the real function of Breweries to Be in MO? Why are they in a native environment but they look an industrial place inside?

The clue is in the "to be" part of the name: it is not finished yet. It will be a brewery, when it is completed.

And I think it actually looks like a native building inside, mainly because it is being built inside a native windmill.

Yes, it looks like a native place, but there are some elements that aren't as nice as native's things. For example in these screenshots And maybe it has been conceived to be a little SoulSotrm Brewery? And because I don't have MO I have this question: what do Abe and Scrubs Mudokons do in the Brewery to Be?
http://www.oddworld.com/firsttenyear.../scroll07.html
http://www.oddworld.com/firsttenyear.../scroll08.html

Scrubs work there, setting it up to be a SoultStorm microbrewery. Abe, as usual, comes to spread the current mudokon fad of mass-truancy.

Ok, thank you. New question about MO: what is really Dead River? Where is its source? Is it a tributary of Mongo River? What do creatures near it? Are there some fishermen? Maybe Grubbs? Mudokons? Anyone?

It’s not even a river; it’s just a lake outside Splinterz. It’s ‘dead’ because it’s been drained. There’s a Mudokon village by it, and a Storm Circle a short way away. No fishermen. Definitely no Grubbs; they hadn’t even been created when the game came out. Apart from that, there’s just a shitload of Sligs.

Do we know anything about the difference between the coleopteran meetle and the balloon meetle? The latter was always in those test sequences while the former is known ownly in art, yet it makes much more sense as a counterpart to the mug. I notice that they both have the same face.

Also, are there any pictures of the mug still about somewhere? Since Oddworld Universe went down the best I can find is this.

OWI has only ever described two variants of Meetles: peaceful, herbivorous ones, and aggressive, carnivorous ones that are also known as Mugs. I assume the herbivorous ones can inflate themselves into balloons (note the creature at the start of Munch’s Oddysee has never actually been ientified officially as being a Meetle). The alternative is that the balloon variety is the result of a third possible diet.

Oddworld Universe is still up. It was Abe Babe who scanned the Mugs from an E3 pamphlet, but Oddworld‐Web was relaunched in an unfinished state some time ago and never patched up. I have the pamphlet myself. I’ll get myself around to scanning it some time.

You're right Max. If they eat vegetables they will grow into a Meetle. If they eat meat, they will grow into a Mug.

Thanks AIN!

While that creature is anatomically very similar to meetles and is probably closely related, the coleopteran specimen I describe is this fellow, who is probably not the same creature on account of the warmount armour the natives kit them out in.

Of course you no doubt know these images very well, just jogging your memory.

Oh? The old links do not work then- I found some to meetle pictures in an old picture request thread that most certainly do not lead to meetles.

Cool, looking forward to it.

I let the top-level domain expire. It's now hiding underneath: http://oddworld.dreamhost.com/oddworlduniverse.com/

Alcar...

I do think they were designed for Hand of Odd.

I wouldn't say just for Hand of Odd. Weren't they made to appear in MO but were cut, like most things?

Yes.

Question: when MO designed for PS2, OWI made a lot of trailers and of screenshots. One of them was "Tree Chopping" where Mudokons cut trees. Another was "Tree Recycler" where Scrubs put timber into the recycler. And then the "Tree Growing". But why in the final version of MO doesn't Splinterz Manufacturing work with timber? And so why don't Mudokons cut and grow trees? I heard on eof the theme of MO was environmental situation but without it it has not much importance.

When the team switched to Xbox development the deal was that MO would be a launch title for the system. These time constraints meant that a lot more had to be cut than usual, including most of the features seen in the test videos.

Ok, but they were awesome for me.
Anyway I hawe a new question: why can't we see any child Mudokon?