you know what guys? u think i'm not the only one should saying sorry in the first place. you know what? just continue with your stuff with out me i'm done as well so there's no we anymore of your level.

I like the part where you're still not ignoring him and letting him cause the whole thread to spiral off topic.

I was wondering how it would look like if I mixed Feeco with Monsaic Lines... just a test cam. ;P

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...rth/x131-2.jpg

That's pretty cool, and strange at the same time. :P

it's weird because I'm doing the same thing (except it changes more drastically later) :P

That looks weird and cool, but personally I don't think it works.

it just needs tinting.
to either yellow (forground)
or green (for background)

Back to cam making, I needed time to adjust myself to a normal sleeping schedule and finally did, so now I'll try to take some time at evenings to work a little bit on Annex 4...

Two first cams, still wondering what I'll put in those... ^^

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...birth/xfhd.jpg

I'm trying 3D myself now, I'm getting used to it, pretty easy actually. Our DT teacher taught us how to use it since we're doing vacuum forming for RC Cars we're making for a project. I made a really good car at school so I thought I try it at home and so far I've made this small platform:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...1&d=1340778437

It's still a work in progress.

nice,
so are you going to make whole 3d screens or pieces to Photoshop into position?

Cool :)

Well I assume you already know what your placing on the story stone there? Or did you just place the story stone and now have no idea what to put there?

there's more cams than this but it's the most current one I have so far.
http://i.imgur.com/fFa9v.png

Artful looking level CAM's... http://www.oddworldforums.net/images...icon10_odd.gif
I like how master you are making these... :hungry:

I wish i could give rep for all of you... :)

I hope this isn't the future, whilst I appreciate they take a long time to make and they defiantly have a good quality to them, I just hate the concept.

I know what I'll do with the handstone, I didn't know about switches/enemies/bombs/etc...

okay you all remember how I found elum data (or rather sprites) in mosaic lines?
well...

http://i.imgur.com/lkg7Z.png

this confirms my suspicion that elum was originally to appear in mosaic lines.

What does an Elum Wall even do?

I've never worked it out, and I think we already knew that Elum was goona be on Monsaic lines because in the AO demo on the Demo 1 disc I'm sure there was a screenshot on there of Elum on Monsaic lines.

and when i explored whole Oddysee with Editor, i found there is extra edge objects and death drops in some levels.

Like here in secret area in Paramonian Temple:
https://public.bay.livefilestore.com...eta.bmp?psid=1

The placement of those edges make no sense.

because this is beta stuff that's why it doesn't make sense (also I've never seen the beta image of elum in mosaic lines so derp)...
Did anyone else suddenly want to do a beta remake?

What I'm saying is, even if there were drops where the edges are, it still wouldn't make sense, at least to me anyway!

well it depends on what side they're at it was either a hole in between the two edges or it was a platform.

who knows what the room could have looked like when it was first developed.
It probably wasn't even a secret at first.

You must be speaking of the screen arrangement and not the CAM surely.

ya think?

Well I don't know thats why I was asking...

we should probably stop talking and get back on topic now.

Same feeling, but maybe those objects left from older beta versions... ^^

That secret is already hard enough, it would be a damn nightmare if it involved run jumping to...

Well it's lucky they got rid of that gap before the final release then, isn't it? They must have redone the CAM, whacked another collision line along the floor but been too lazy to take out the other objects.

Well they probably didn't think that we would ever discover such a thing.

I also assume that you can't just press down on the edge object either.

Both things possibly true... :)

You know, I say I work in FeeCo and I said : Be patient....

But I'm going to be sincere with you...

Now I have photoshop and I'm going to redo all my level ! Because I can apply lots of effects, do HQ CAMs like that :

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/476870F11.png

But now, it's the last version of this long long long project of FeeCo :D

It looks horrid, well, in the sense everything looks squashed up, and the Feeco sign only enhances that, but I'm sure in game it looks excellent, I love it!

cams are actually stretched out vertically in game.

I know, which is why I said, I'm sure it looks excellent in game.

so why'd you complain?

Because cam files just look horrid!

I change 2 or 3 things, I place electric walls and other things...

That's more to do with level design and not cam design.