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Shade667 01-08-2017 03:20 AM

Also id say i was a fan of oddworld before NnT came out. I bought my ps4 solely for new n tasty, not for some random platformer i had never heard of up til that point. I had high, high expectations for New n Tasty when it released, and I was mostly dissapointed, but I still found it far. far more enjoyable than the original. NnT wasnt some hidden gem I never head of. I played Strangers wrath a couple years earlier when the HD version released on PS3 and LOVED it. Following that I bought the ps1 classic off the ps store, played for a few hours, and stopped because I wasnt having fun. The first 30 mins was cool, cuz it reminded me of the demo I used to play as a kid, but after that it was just frustration. I wasnt enjoying my time with the game.

I apologise if it sounds like im saying New n Tasty is objectively better. I cant say that. Its a videogame. Unless the game flat out didnt work, whether its better or not is subjective. I think hands down New n Tasty is better, and Ive had this discussion both here, and elsewhere before and almost everyone disagrees. Thats fine.


Im trying not to contradict myself, I do that alot. I find I have trouble thinking of the right words to describe my thoughts properly, so apologies if that causes an issue.

horiZon 01-21-2017 03:44 AM

That's a hard Question, hm.
But to be honest, i prefer NnT too.
Even with the Bugs (good ones & bad ones), it felt more nostalgic to me. I don't care about Graphics, i need a great Gameplay. And both of them got it. But to be real, as AO came out i was a Kid. I fanfared the Game cause of the tricky Playgrounds & the dark Background + Story. Let's be real, we all wanted to be Abe and save our Pals. Even it was funny killing them....sometimes....the annoying ones........holy shit, was am i a Bad Boy for laughing when they exploded to tasty Meat? :<

And as i played NnT it didn't only gaves me nostalgic feels, it felt so New! It was like: "Woah, am i old now? Wasn't it way easier at AO?! Nah, just need to train my skills again." NnT got something fresh to me. That's all. But i wouldn't say AO is shit from the past. It was for the Time it was created, epic. But now, NnT made a perfect stick in into the new Game times.

Alf Shall Rise 01-21-2017 07:51 AM

Definitely AO. I mean I don't have any major issues with NnT personally, while there are certain things about it that I didn't like, I still enjoyed it and was glad that it was something that was made/released. But it's hard to top the original for me. Some of that might be the nostalgia talking, but just the atmosphere alone for AO makes me like it a lot more.

Havoc 01-22-2017 10:48 AM

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Abe's Oddysee is infinitely better than NnT.

NnT improved a couple of much needed things, but overall AO has the better atmosphere. Maybe if the Sligs shut up NnT would win it over for me.

TheParamitePie 01-23-2017 03:22 AM

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NnT improved a couple of much needed things, but overall AO has the better atmosphere. Maybe if the Sligs shut up NnT would win it over for me.


Couldn't agree more! xD My preference is definitely AO but nostalgia probably has a huge part to play in that!

Xavier 01-23-2017 03:28 AM

Hello TheParamitePie welcome to the forums.

Please don't change the size of your text for no reason like that. It gives the impression you are shouting and no ones likes people that are shouting their opinions. ;)

Nepsotic 01-23-2017 03:32 AM

we all know NnT is the superior game here

TheParamitePie 01-23-2017 03:43 AM

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Hello TheParamitePie welcome to the forums.

Please don't change the size of your text for no reason like that. It gives the impression you are shouting and no ones likes people that are shouting their opinions. ;)

Sorry only getting used to this! Won't do it again!

SuperScrab 01-31-2017 10:26 AM

tbh AO is garbage

TheParamitePie 01-31-2017 10:36 AM

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tbh AO is garbage

Man whats your problem?? AO was brilliant. It's what got OWI off their feet. AO brings back so many great memories for probably most of us here. In fact I just did a full play through yesterday!

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 02:35 AM

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Man whats your problem?? AO was brilliant. It's what got OWI off their feet. AO brings back so many great memories for probably most of us here. In fact I just did a full play through yesterday!

I agree, it's just a shame that the steam release is kind of broken which is really upsetting cause I really wanted to reply it after finishing NnT.

Varrok 02-09-2017 03:51 AM

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I agree, it's just a shame that the steam release is kind of broken which is really upsetting cause I really wanted to reply it after finishing NnT.

Try this. The working links are somewhere on the second-to-last page or so.

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 04:09 AM

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Try this. The working links are somewhere on the second-to-last page or so.

Cheers, I already have this but there's also an issue with getting controllers to work too, most of the commands work but when it comes to speaking and sneaking people can't seem to use the triggers. :fuzsad:

Varrok 02-09-2017 04:15 AM

Use keyboard :) It's not bad, really.

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 04:17 AM

I just can't, I've tried and tried but I don't think I'll ever get used to it, especially with the OW games as I've always used a controller to play them.

Manco 02-09-2017 04:23 AM

There are some keyboard to controller mapping apps that you can try, like Xpadder or Pinnacle Game Profiler. I've used Pinnacle before to create a controller layout that matches the PS1 version to a 360 controller.

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 04:28 AM

At the time I couldn't find any that worked, I'll look into those when I get home, thanks!

Xavier 02-09-2017 04:30 AM

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Cheers, I already have this but there's also an issue with getting controllers to work too, most of the commands work but when it comes to speaking and sneaking people can't seem to use the triggers. :fuzsad:

I have exactly the same issue. Can't seem to get the Xbox one controller triggers to work with New 'n' Tasty. :(

I've updated all the drivers and even the software inside the controller itself.

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 05:38 AM

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I have exactly the same issue. Can't seem to get the Xbox one controller triggers to work with New 'n' Tasty. :(

I've updated all the drivers and even the software inside the controller itself.

You had trouble with NnT? I had no problems what so ever with using a controller for that which I was pleasantly surprised about, does that mean you've not played it then? I hope you find a solution.

Xavier 02-09-2017 05:47 AM

Nah, I played it on PS4 and then again on Xbox One :)

Vanilla ✜ 02-09-2017 07:02 AM

Ahh I'm glad, ever get the New n Hasty achievement?

Shade667 02-13-2017 09:13 PM

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Ahh I'm glad, ever get the New n Hasty achievement?

This is literally my only purpose on this forum.

Crashpunk 02-14-2017 07:24 AM

I still need to get that 'chieve. I think I was pretty close last I checked.

MrsKJJ 02-18-2017 12:26 AM

I like New 'n' Tasty for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, it's the easiest to play. I have played and finished that game, all by myself, whereas normally I ALWAYS need Kevin's assistance. The few exceptions to this rule include some Disney games and Lego games, and a sole adult game, Call of Duty: World at War. As you can see though, I'm not a very hardcore gamer.

I also love the graphics, and I think it's a very beautiful game. The backgrounds are very expansive and—although it looks to have been improved further in Soulstorm—I think the detail on the characters and animals are beautiful. I also love the extended sequence where you ride Elum and have to gallop over jumps and obstacles without stopping.

JayDee 02-18-2017 09:54 AM

I'm gonna have to go ahead and cast my vote for Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee. I enjoyed New n Tasty and it's a good game game standalone of it's previous incarnation, hell I was even the guy who trawled through the game multiple times looking for the "two secret characters", however when compared to Abe's Oddysee it just fell kinda flat for me (Despite it being 3D).

When playing on the hardest difficulty and attempting a 100% saviour status - which I'm sure I wasn't the only person to do on their first playthrough - I found many issues with the gameplay. Both AO and NnT are action/puzzle games, but Abe's Oddysee had puzzles based around it's grid system, whereas New n Tasty just had puzzles based around Abe's Oddysee sans grid.

The grid system works for the puzzles we're presented with in the same way it works for a puzzle game like Bejeweled, it allows us to plan our actions and easily interpret the moves we make. I'm sure others here when playing AO/AE think in the sense of "Right, if I run for 3 squares, jump, then quickly tuck into a roll I can get past that meat saw." However this kind of forethought and planning was made incredibly difficult with the exclusion of the grid system, as it was the backbone from which all the game's challenges were made easily understandable.

When I die on the originals I know that it's my fault, I mistimed a jump, or I should've waited a second longer before running from that Scrab. But with New n Tasty none of my deaths seemed like they were as much my fault as they were failing mechanics. The meat saws on the hardest difficulty were far too fast to the point where you'd have to spam quiksave and quikload just to find the 10 millisecond long span of time where you'd manage to succesfully roll through. And that shouldn't be the case in a puzzle game, it slows the flow and reduces a player's desire to continue out of sheer frustration.

My deaths in AO/AE felt fair, my deaths in NnT did not.

Extra Credits did a great episode on this concept that I recommend watching.



This is why I'm excited for Soulstorm being loosely based off of Abe's Exoddus, it opens up what they're able to do mechanically without restraining any new or absent mechanics to the confines of its orginal version. OWI seem to have taken NnT as a learning experience and that makes me very excited for what they do next.

theraven 02-18-2017 12:19 PM

New N Tasty is on sale on the PS Store for 5 bucks for PS3, and I was wondering if it's worth it. Most of the posts in this thread have made me think it's not.

I have all the other Oddworld games, but I just don't know about New N Tasty. Especially the PS3 version, which doesn't even have Alf's Escape DLC. I would be mostly buying it out of support for OWI.

MrsKJJ 02-18-2017 01:43 PM

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New N Tasty is on sale on the PS Store for 5 bucks for PS3, and I was wondering if it's worth it. Most of the posts in this thread have made me think it's not.

I have all the other Oddworld games, but I just don't know about New N Tasty. Especially the PS3 version, which doesn't even have Alf's Escape DLC. I would be mostly buying it out of support for OWI.

It is definitely worth it. Everyone here (except maybe Varrok) can admit in some fashion, that they did enjoy it while playing, although they do prefer the original. If you haven't played it, it is only $5.00, and you're not going to miss it, and the game's value is definitely worth more than its sale price.

If you have a PS4, I would recommend it there first. The graphics are far more beautiful and detailed, the backgrounds look endless, and although I can't confirm this, If you buy the PS4 version, you get the PS3 version for free(?) I can't confirm this, I think it's cross buy. I have it on both systems because of the free additional download on the PS3. The PS4 also, obviously, has Alf's Escape.

OWI_Alex 02-18-2017 03:34 PM

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If you buy the PS4 version, you get the PS3 version for free(?)

And the Vita version. :)

FrustratedAssassin 02-19-2017 03:32 AM

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New N Tasty is on sale on the PS Store for 5 bucks for PS3, and I was wondering if it's worth it. Most of the posts in this thread have made me think it's not.

I have all the other Oddworld games, but I just don't know about New N Tasty. Especially the PS3 version, which doesn't even have Alf's Escape DLC. I would be mostly buying it out of support for OWI.

I bought the game twice at full price, it's definitely worth $5 (and more). People are being harsh on it because everybody loves the originals a lot.

theraven 02-19-2017 01:48 PM

I ended up getting it, the PS3 version (I don't have a PS4 or a Vita).

Now, once I beat it, I can finally participate in this poll lol. I already feel inclined to say the original is better based purely on controls, but New N Tasty has so much charm oozing from it that I want to beat it and give it a full chance.

FrustratedAssassin 02-19-2017 03:32 PM

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I ended up getting it, the PS3 version (I don't have a PS4 or a Vita).

Now, once I beat it, I can finally participate in this poll lol. I already feel inclined to say the original is better based purely on controls, but New N Tasty has so much charm oozing from it that I want to beat it and give it a full chance.

Turn on Button to Run and Sideways Hop if you haven't already. You'll thank me for that. Also the charm that you mention is exactly why people dislike it haha.

theraven 02-19-2017 06:54 PM

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Turn on Button to Run and Sideways Hop if you haven't already. You'll thank me for that. Also the charm that you mention is exactly why people dislike it haha.

I put on Button to Run pretty quickly after starting. I'll have to throw on Sideways Hop too. Not sure what that is but I'll take your word on it being essential.

So far, I just made my way through the first Rupture Farms area (with one restart because I missed too many hidden Mudokens for my taste) and am now in the Stockyard.

Nothing about the new charm seems bad to me. A lot of the childish and forced 'humor' in Munch's Oddysee annoyed me to no end (I very much hate that game and hope they one day remake it into whatever it was meant to be at first) but I don't see any of that being transferred into this game. At least yet.

Bixer 02-22-2017 04:51 AM

Anyone who's chosen New 'n' Tasty likes the Oddworld series for *entirely* different reasons than me

kjjcarpenter 02-22-2017 07:49 AM

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Anyone who's chosen New 'n' Tasty likes the Oddworld series for *entirely* different reasons than me

... Could you elaborate?

OWI_Alex 02-23-2017 02:10 AM

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I put on Button to Run pretty quickly after starting. I'll have to throw on Sideways Hop too. Not sure what that is but I'll take your word on it being essential.

Button to run: Abe will walk unless you hold the run button. This tends to be what players used to Oddysee would go for as it's closer to the 1997 controls.

Sideways hop: Abe will hop forwards when you press jump, rather than directly up. Some people prefer this for gaps, mines etc.

Bixer 02-23-2017 04:47 AM

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... Could you elaborate?

The whole eerie atmosphere, gritty art direction and perfect balance of a dark overworld mixed with very, very subtle humour here and there is what made Oddworld my favourite game of all time.

I just feel like New 'n' Tasty near enough abandoned most of that.

It's been posted to death in this forum I'm sure, but this video sums up all my issues with New 'n' Tasty - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhDrngAQZ0

theraven 02-25-2017 02:08 PM

Haven beaten New N Tasty officially now, I can properly vote for the original.

Not that New N Tasty is bad by any means. It was more than worth the five bucks I spent on it, and I am happy to financially support OWI in their continued efforts to keep this franchise going. Was it a tad too silly overall? Sure, there were a few parts where the humor was forced into a scene or two. But at least they're listening to that feedback and going in a darker direction with Soulstorm, so I can't really complain about that. There's countless gaming companies that would ignore such comments and only care about the bottom-line.

More than anything it just made me want to play the original again, and I can't tell if that's a good or a bad thing, but that's ultimately what it accomplished.

TheParamitePie 02-25-2017 02:49 PM

The best thing about New n Tasty was the inclusion of the "All O' ya command originally from AE.A command I missed while replaying AO.

EVP_Glukkon 02-26-2017 02:15 PM

The remake feels like a love letter to the original, all the characters (all of them) are either more colourful, cute etc.

It lost the serious and dark nature of the original and that's what stood out the most for me.

Shade667 02-26-2017 07:36 PM

I actually fully expected to be the only vote for NnT by the time SoulStorm came out.