Can I put Havoc in?

Accepted
oh and about the mental illness thing, thats not going in, it pretty much speaks for itself, sorry i forgot to mention, dont say things like cancer, or mental illness, or racism, because thats obvious, they're already in there.

That took a lot longer than expected.

Nepsotic, we've already ruled out mental illnesses going in because, lord save me, if it weren't for MI's we wouldn't some of the fantastic bit's of art we have today.

I would also like to put the electromagnetic force in there.

I'd like to put the Laws of Thermodynamics in there.

Why exactly? 'yes! There will be no more cars crushed in this world! HAHAHAHA!'

What! WE NEED CAR CRUSHERS!

Especially with all the shit that America and Korea pushes out.

Thats what i was saying

Yeah I'm sure...

Bullet magnet said
so as if quoting someone who hates electromagnets (car crushers are electromagnetic) i said

*sigh

The effect of removing the electromagnetic force would be that all atoms lose their electrons as atomic charges cease to have an effect (causing all matter to disintegrate into free electrons and atomic nuclei). Magnetism would indeed be lost, but there would be nothing that would generate it either. Also light would cease to exist.

Causing the eventual demise of the universe.

Not at all. It would continue to exist just the same. Except that it would be shit.

Causing the demise of the Universe in the eyes of man.

Into the room?... I'm gonna say noooo, for now. Lets just... Put a pin in it....

And I said,

So we're free to put whatever we want in the room.

Accepted!

Room 102 in Room 102?

No that would create a world hole.

Paradoxx

No that would mean a thread would be gone, but if we were to put OWF into Room 102...

Paradox

Put recursion in Room 102. Solves the paradox. Might kick Room 102 back out of itself, though. That would be how it solves it, I suppose, at least in a way that's comprehensible.

What eyes? What man? Weren't you paying attention? Cor, imagine if I'd had to explain the crack about the Strong Nuclear Force earlier.

Come to think of it, that would have been simpler.

I'm just yanking yer balls, I got you really. ;) I'm surprised you still doubt me!

You know me. Doubt is my virtue.

Only too well dear BM.

The point being?

It's still a personal freedom that no one should tamper with. As long as its stays a personal freedom, I dont care if they want to live in a box on the streets in order to keep their addiction.

of course if they ask for help it should be given.

And if their personal freedom harms others then its no longer a personal freedom meaning it doesnt count anymore. Yeap.

T-nex's heterosexuality

The point being that drug addiction isn't a personal freedom, it's an addiction.

If I saw a friend of mine suffering from drug addiction I wouldn't sit idly by and doing nothing, then later tell him 'Oh sorry I wasn't aware you were suffering. I was respecting your autonomy.'

That's just an excuse to do nothing. Addiction is never a freedom.

If someone wants to be addicted, they have the right to be addicted.
Cigarette smokers have the right to be addicted too.

But that's not what I was saying anyway. I dont get why everytime someone mentions freedom + drugs it has to be about addiction and 'oh no'.

Plenty of drugs aren't addictive. Not all drugs are heroin.

And as I said, if the person asks for help, they should have it. The population should receive proper education about sensitive matters such as these, and there should be plenty of way to get help and stuff.

I wouldn't just sit idly by and not help someone if they had an addiction either. But you can't force someone to stop something unless it hurts others.

You’re confusing “wants to get addicted” with “wants to take drugs”.

People don’t take drugs to get addicted, people don’t want to be addicted to things. They want to experience the short-term effects the drugs have on their mind and body, not the debilitating long-term ones.

Well I friggin know this. I was responding to Joe. He chose to mention extremes, so Im responding with extremes. And my "extreme" opinion is that if someone took drugs, and got addicted, but they dont wanna do anything about it, we cant force them to unless they become a nuisance. Just like smokers. just.... more extreme.

If someone I knew changed into a different person through an addiction and if their life went up the shitter purely because of their addiction then I would consider helping them in any way I can to be my duty as a friend.

That's what constitutes as harmful to self for me, not as simple as 'Taking drugs is auto harmful'.

Yea well... it's still an extreme, i think everyone can agree that if it gets as bad as someone's life going to the shitter, then it's something that should be helped.
Whether that's just a human duty or should be enforced by law, i dunno.

But it wasn't my original point, and I seriously dislike including extremes in these conversations when it's unneeded, because these are one of those things that are kind of a given, and they sort of require threads on their own.

I merely wanted to point out that i would get rid of intolerance to personal freedoms(as long as they remain personal or consented to).

T-nex is causing shit again.

god sake.

Nuh uh! I just get annoyed that I can't express myself properly without being misunderstood(or misunderstand what Im reading for that matter)... ._. I don't mean to cause shit.

Also I feel really strongly about personal choices.

sorry x_x

i was just shit-stirring.

you cause the shit, and i stir it.

The mental image MA conjured should be cast in the far corner of Room 102.

Well sometimes we need some shit amongst the pretty flowers ._.