I'm a raised Catholic you ridiculous little prick. Stop fucking fishing for some sort of personal victory to dredge out of your complete and total schooling by people with brains between their ears.

I'm reloading the guns, people.

You are presuming a man where there is no evidence of one. Listen. Taste the air. You are alone.

Have another look. I'm not going to explain the scientific method again.

Religion is nothing but human error. Cutting right to the core of Christianity, for instance. The whole Jesus thing: what I find there is some of the most insulting, horrific and immoral teachings I have ever heard. It is utterly disgusting.

Take that doubt and run with it. It will serve you well.

That is as insulting as it is ridiculous. "Brought up in a religious family". Which religion? Yours? Do you not think it odd that almost everyone believes in the religion that they were born in? Is this chance occurrence really sufficient to believe in one over another? It is so arrogant and egocentric. It implies that your religion is the right one because you were born into it. Or else that you are otherwise so special that your god would not have permitted you to be born into the wrong one. It's ridiculous. It's arbitrary. It's not enough to keep the mind alive.

Yes, religion requires faith. And that is its most damning aspect.

Bullet Magnet is going to save us all.

is being saved the same as being bored?

Dammit, I was going to post that.

Let me make this comparison though:
"some people are lacking or were never fortunate enough to be brought up into a scientific family."

I don't feel I need to continue because the argument will keep running in circles, it's a shame you want me to continue just to see me crash and burn as well.
I don't think BM won the debate personally in the sense that to win a debate you must show your opponent that they are wrong and then the opponent should see it the victors way.

Don't be insulted, it is the truth, there are three real religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, of course I'm not going to say Hinduism is the one true religion because to me it's bloody well not, of course I imply that the true religions are the ones with my God stated as the divine being. No matter what I go through I will never accept that there is no God, there is a God, there will always be a God, my God, arrogant, egocentric, I don't care, when would a Zoroastrian for example ever admit that their god is not true.

So first you proclaim there's only three "real" religions, which is incredibly offensive to anyone of any faith besides those three. Could you explain why you think some religions can be classified as false?

Second, you go on to say that religion is a subjective thing, and that people of different faiths will always believe they're the correct ones. So why doesn't this apply to you? What makes you certain your religion is the right one? If it's all subjective why do you think yours is objectively true?

Third, isn't arrogance viewed pretty negatively by most religions?

Ok, you really answered your first question with your second one, I don't care if I offend other faiths that much over the internet at least because I generally believe my religion or at least the religions that believe in my God are the only religions for obvious reasons.

So much for love thy neighbour.

Well it's not like I'm fighting them or harrasing them, y'know, since everyone here is atheist basically.

Quiet hatred is not the same thing as love and compassion.

I think I've told you that before?

No I don't think you have, I don't have to love other religions let's face it, God didn't like the worshippers of Baal, Asherah, Moloch, the list goes on...I just have to tolerate them, I don't have to like them I just have ot get on with the fact that people aren't all like me...unfortunately ( XD ) I can still be a complete arse hole...so long as no one I know is offended...I suppose.

All loving.

Oh yeh, of course.

You do know that Zoroastrianism is as closely related to Judiasm, Christianity and Islam as they are to each other, right?

Sort of, Zoroastrianism is debatable because it is so old compared to it's sister religions if I could call them that.

Well by your logic older religions = better, so Zoroastrianism must therefore be more of a real religion than Christianity.

I'm sorry...for all you know I might believe that the world was created in 4004 B.C as predicted by Bishop Usher.

You are willfully ignorant STM... that's all I have to say to you.

That's great and all, but it has nothing to do with anything posted in this thread.

Making abrahamic religions the oldest religions and therefore best no? Of course Usher was wrong and all but still. Well no, that actually proves jack.

What a coherent argument.

Thankyou. And you glad I'm around as much as I was basically before I announced I was decreasing activity WoF

I don't follow your point. If you believe he actually existed, Abraham still only lived at about 1500BC. What does Usher's hypothetical date for creation have to do with that?

Nevermind I'm to tired to keep this up, I mean physically tired, I just spent 6 hours snowboarding.

Down the tower of Babel.

You know the tower of Babel was real don't you...under the name of Etemenanki, the Tower of Babel was simply an enormous Ziggurat for God in Babylon. No one knows why it was downed but it was restored by Nabopolassar

I did not know that.

In any case, i was mearly ribbing you. <.<

Fairplay, and dear God I've just realised your avatar.

No, since Zoastrowhatever you brought up is actually older?

Is it bad I recognised it instantly?

No, it makes you instantly cooler than you are already =)

You will lead me totheark.

You're full of shit. You take a well-known myth and try to link it to an unrelated archeological find. Where is the goddamned proof?

Maybe we should make a Marble Hornets thread instead of veering off-topic here.

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I don't think he's trying to say they're one and the same, just that Etemenanki inspired the Tower of Babel myth.

Nate, the two finds are archaeologically and geographically the same, rather than dispute everything I say, do a little research for yourself.

The two finds? I count one Ziggurat. What's the other one?

Okay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etemenanki

Thankyou, see Nate, you do realize there is more than one ziggurat don't you...there just tombs.

They're just tombs, therefore THE TOWER OF BABEL IS REAL GUYS

Once again, I don't see your point.

There's a ziggurat and there's a story. Who are you to say that they are both one and the same?