Fullmetal Alchemist looked drab? I would never had known. And most of my distaste(not hate or anything, it was a fine show.) for Eureka Seven lies in the realm of too much familiarity. Maybe I've just watched too much Gundam and Robotech/Macross. Kids in giant robots+angst=formulaic. But it had it's moments. btw, to any outlaw star fans: stay far, FAR away from Angel Links, the spin off series...words cannot describe how bad it turned out. They even managed to fuck up the continuity...Ugh. Also, if you come for me, Sekto, not the face. I'm fucked up lookin' enough. >_<

I wouldn't know, I've never seen Fullmetal Alchemist.

I'm not very good at this 'traditional western anime fan' business. From the Gundams I launched straight into up to date anime and only look back when I have damn good reason to. Currently I'm watching Revolutionary Girl Utena, as well as keeping up to date with running shows (This season is a real winner. I could honestly watch every anime airing minus two if I had enough time) and watching my precious precure as it slowly but surely gets subbed from years ago.

Also, once you get up to and past the Beams, there is almost no similarity between E7 and an Gundam show. It's like saying 'Pfft, Lucky Star and Clannad both contain cute moe girls. Seen one seen em all.'

Also everyone here should watch Kara no Kyoukai.

Of course it is vastly different. Gundam is about war and how it affects us, In fact, besides the sci fi elements, it is a fairly straightforward war story.(War in the Pocket especially. Strip away the sci fi and you still have a great drama.) Eureka Seven, at it's heart, is also drama with a dash of young love. It has it's moments, but frankly I expect more from Bones. And why the seperation? I enjoy anime as anime, I could watch Lupin the III then Death Note with hardly a second thought. A good anime is good anime. Currently, I am watching Higurashi...that is some disturbing shit.

Oh Godddd the anime is okay but it's the second most popular independently produced visual novel ever for good reason. It was meant to be read.

Higurashi is one of my very favourite franchises next to Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night and Clannad. I own all the visual novels, have seen all the anime and am collecting the manga volumes (Much better adaption than the anime) as they get translated. Rena is pretty much my favourite character ever.

And I tend towards not caring so much about old anime because frankly the medium has only gotten better as time has gone on. It's just that it's so much more overexposed now we see far more of the cookiecutter shit that has always been produced and think its golden age has long passed.

So yeah, I'll watch an old anime if I hear something about the plot or the director that interests me, but I don't go out of my way to watch them to prove myself a 'fan'.

I still still still love Sailor Moon though.

the fan logic makes no sense. I recommend Bebop and Evangelion because I love them, and went into both blind. To me, there is no distinction besides dubbing quality and budget. And neither of which bothers me much. I'm in for the story and art. I hate that "you ain't a anime fan if ya don't watch "insert name here". Also, do you watch much Satoshi Kon?

Nope. It's one of those things on my list to buy, like FMA, Trigun, Bebop, Paranoia Agent and GITS: SAC.

I don't download anime films if I can possibly help it, the least I can do to help the industry is to donate £15 ever now and then to get a film worth of enjoyment.

I don't either, it's just bad manners. As an artist myself, I don't wanna spit in someone's face for their hard work. Also, is Clannad by Clamp? Or am I thinking of something else?

Clannad is (A visual novel) by KEY and animated by KyoAni (Lucky Star, Haruhi). Considered the greatest romance anime of all time (Though not by me, which doesn't stop me loving it to pieces regardless.)

You may be thinking of Chobits by CLAMP, they're the most well known mangaka group and also made Cardcaptor Sakura (A masterpiece) and Magical Knight Rayearth.

I rather enjoyed Holic and X from them. Sakura I don't remember too well, sadly. Clamp School is just adorable, lol. I love their art style, Especially the super eyelashes, xP. Though, I must say, if the visual novel is better, I look forward to reading it. Higurashi is the first since Paranoia Agent to actually creep me out. (That, and FLCL's fourth episode, Marquis de Carabas)

Nah, desu is just a politeness modifier. It doesn't really affect grammer in the way you said.

Actually you're completely wrong here.

Okay, this is off topic, but wings, I just wanted to say your sig had me cracking up for like five minutes. lol I will never look at Firefly the same again.

So desu isn't a politeness modifier? As in, you can stick a desu or a da on there, but the difference is the politeness.

Well you just gave me an excuse to reply to your last post without editing mine!

Apart from the amazing story and characters, the other huge reason to read Ryukishi visual novels (Higurashi and Umineko) is the absolutely astounding audio track.

I get where you're coming from, but it's got more to do with the Japanese view of their own language, because they generally consider that copulate thing to be a bit semantical when it comes to the guts of the sentence. An average Japanese girl dressing up can look in the mirror and say "I cute" and get away with it, because it's not considered that important. You get it in reverse sometimes when Japanese will ditch words like "to" and "be" and so forth from their sentences because they're assuming it's like Japanese and not that important.

Hell, a situation where someone would be using desu in a sentence probably wouldn't have kawaii in it, unless the person is psychotically polite.

uh

It's the subject of the sentence that's left out when people refer to themselves, or others when it's obvious.

A Japanese girl checking herself out in the mirror wouldn't say 'Watashi wa kawaii!' she'd say 'Kawaii!'

This is why I don't get into fights about grammar in any language.

They'd say both or neither or something else. Language is flexible.

And I give the same level of shit about irregular Japanese grammar and slang as I do to cockney or glaswegian slang. Formally wrong is formally wrong.

And then you'll go there and they'll be all "look at this foreign ponce with that desu stick up his butt!"

then bow and say sorry repeatedly when you tell them you heard them.

Japanese people are fun!

And then everyone plays a round of DDR.

Inaba Kagerosa!

Nobody cares about Bleach, go away.

fuckin' Jap shit.

I like how they complain about the Anime threads dying because no one posts in them and then they just talk to each other anyway when people try and take an interest. Fuckin' exercise in futility.

I have done nothing of the sort.

I'm happy for people to have their own interests, so long as I don't have to enjoy them or care about them or be aware of them or acknowledge them in any way whatsoever. JOKE.

In other news, I have officially made peace with the manga drawing style (umbrella term, I know). It is now a neutral thing for me, rather than a negative thing. In fact, it's just a thing.

It's a slippery slope. I'll probably be here this time next year fanspazzing and speaking rubbish Japanese.

derp where

Very umbrella term, lol. And, in all honesty, I dislike when people call their styles "anime"...I have a style inspired by both japanese and american animation/art, but it's just that-a style. Neither, cuz I'm not japanese, and "american" anything is ridiculous, being a strange mish mash of cultures as it is.

I think calling it a manga artstyle is acceptable as long as you aknowledge there are myriad different artstyles within Japan.

Calling anime a genre or a style is an unforgivable sin though. It's a medium.

Exactly-though what it defines anymore is foggy at best. Look at Tekkon Kinkreet, Written and directed by an American, animated by Studio 4C(degrees celsius, that is) a japanese studio, and done in an french art style.
(is it celsius or celcius?...I forget. -_-)