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scrabface 12-25-2011 11:04 AM

the legal complaint

http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/Complaint.pdf

Nate 12-25-2011 06:22 PM

Uhhh... context? What does that have to do with SOPA?

Sekto Springs 12-25-2011 07:35 PM

I think SOPA and Protect IP are more or less the same thing. SOPA is the house version, but it's essentially the same bill. PIP is technically on hold, but the video I posted covers the same issues being reviewed with SOPA.

Also, on the matter of CBS supposedly knowingly providing Bittorrent software to bait it's users. Wouldn't that make CBS liable, not it's users? Or am I missing something here?

Nate 12-25-2011 09:11 PM

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Also, on the matter of CBS supposedly knowingly providing Bittorrent software to bait it's users. Wouldn't that make CBS liable, not it's users? Or am I missing something here?

If that were true, Bram Cohen would be liable to pay fines for every single film downloaded via BitTorrent. There's nothing legally or ethically wrong with using BitTorrent software; it just depends what you use it for.

As for baiting their users; that's rubbish. CBS as a content provider were probably completely oblivious to what was being provided by C|NET. And even if they were aware that BitTorrent software was being hosted by their subsidiary, it's a very long bow to draw to imply that that means they were baiting consumers to take part in piracy.

MeechMunchie 12-26-2011 05:27 AM

I'm pretty sure that when I installed uTorrent it asked me to agree to something along the lines of "I am aware that this is a completely innocent piece of software in itself. I know that piracy is illegal and anything I do with this program is my responsibility, and the consequences therof my fault".

Any liability the providers of BitTorrent may have held was probably dismissed as soon as the program was intsalled.

Wings of Fire 01-17-2012 12:57 AM

Suddenly I'm a staunch fan of wikipedia again.

DarkHoodness 01-17-2012 01:23 AM

Yeah, I noticed that... It's not something you'd expect either considering how much emphasis on neutrality that Wikipedia gives to its articles. Apparently Mojang are planning a similar thing. Good on both of them, they'll help spread the word.

EDIT: Wikipedia's proposed blackout has made the top ten "Most Read" list of news articles on the BBC news website.

Ridg3 01-17-2012 06:34 AM

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-m...-sopa-bill-kil

Effectively been killed? What does this mean?!

Still. PIPA is still running free out there.

MeechMunchie 01-17-2012 11:49 AM

For those who don’t know, PIPA is essentially SOPA with two major changes.

S is changed to P.
O is changed to I.

This has been my main portal to the issue
(apart from this thread).

DarkHoodness 01-18-2012 03:20 PM

Well, SOPA looks like it's dead now. Shame the same can't be said about PIPA.

Scraby 01-18-2012 03:33 PM

Well teh petition went over 1,500,000 now.

Nate 01-18-2012 03:36 PM

It's not dead until it's dead. It's still up for discussion; they might make some minor changes and win all those people back.

Mr. Bungle 01-18-2012 03:43 PM

I just wanna go on Reddit again. Grr.

Havoc 01-18-2012 05:34 PM

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I just wanna go on Reddit again. Grr.

If this law passes... you won't be able to go on Reddit at ALL!! DAAAN DAAAAN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN /Drama

DarkHoodness 01-18-2012 07:16 PM

This made me smile, maybe 'cause it's late:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-i.../sopa/sopa.gif

Daxter King 01-18-2012 10:35 PM

OWF should have blacked out.

Then Obama would have listened.

Daxter King 01-19-2012 11:15 AM

Who needs SOPA when you can just shut sites down already?!

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=15396093

Fucking pissed, I loved Megavideo.

Dynamithix 01-19-2012 11:20 AM

Yeah just found out that Megaupload went down. Goddamn.

Scraby 01-19-2012 12:38 PM

Ok.*puts on glasses* time to raid and pillage Washington.

edit: will they ever learn that piracy cant be stopped..... if you try seazing the internet it will find a way to continue.... its just like shoplifting you can place whatever security you want in a shop someone eventually will outsmart you and continue shoplifting.Darn stupid senators.

Nepsotic 01-19-2012 03:43 PM

Yeah, your right, i mean, what are they going to do, shut down the internet? Ha!
Theyre not going to shut down the internet right?

Havoc 01-19-2012 04:08 PM

Like any good politician in Washington they don't care about the law being good or bad, they just care about the money they're getting for pushing it. Those assholes would push a law trough that would allow you to throw babies against a wall if it meant a monthly paycheck of a few hundred grand.

Daxter King 01-19-2012 04:15 PM

Havoc is right on the money. Apparently quite of a few of Obama's supporters from Hollywood are withdrawing their funds away from him since he said he would not support it.

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DarkHoodness 01-19-2012 07:08 PM

Megaupload being shut down now is terrible timing... I'm actually a little worried about what'll happen next. Tensions are currently high over the widespread attention that SOPA just got, so people are already angry. This may be like throwing a match into a tinderbox. I just hope nobody does something incredibly stupid, which may make US congress or anyone else with power immediately pass more bills to break the internet.

On the other hand it may go the opposite direction and this may be beneficial to the cause of a free internet. We can only hope, though.

Sekto Springs 01-19-2012 07:28 PM

I'm not too thrilled with Anonymous's response. If they had waited for a more definitive word on the ultimate fate of SOPA, then okay. To make a move now seems premature and I think it will hurt more than help, as it encourages the kind of behavior that SOPA-supporters built their platform on in the first place. Congress members are going to think "Well now we have to pass it, to keep Anonymous frum stealin' our moviez and hackin' our interwebs!"

Bad move, Anon.

Nate 01-19-2012 09:34 PM

I assume that the government got a court order before shutting down MegaUpload, but it bothers me that it takes effect immediately, without giving them a chance to appeal.

Xavier 01-20-2012 01:53 AM

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I'm not too thrilled with Anonymous's response. If they had waited for a more definitive word on the ultimate fate of SOPA, then okay. To make a move now seems premature and I think it will hurt more than help, as it encourages the kind of behavior that SOPA-supporters built their platform on in the first place. Congress members are going to think "Well now we have to pass it, to keep Anonymous frum stealin' our moviez and hackin' our interwebs!"

Bad move, Anon.

My thoughts exactly... what the hell are they trying to achieve? I don't see how this could have any positive impact on the "Free Internet".

Scraby 01-20-2012 02:09 AM

There wont be free internet if this gets trough.

Dynamithix 01-20-2012 04:45 AM

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Ugh, could the video try to be more dramatic... The music in the background and the whole "we are anonymous, blah blah blah".

Mr. Bungle 01-20-2012 06:53 AM

Shit just got real.