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Gwan-Thwei 04-09-2011 01:21 PM

I remember once...
Okay, so at my school, we were releasing baloons to celebrate autism awareness month and there were these cards attached to the baloons. These cards would say things like "This is what autism means to me" and how they delt with it. There would be an e-mail adress so the person who got the baloon could write bavk saying "I got so-and-so's baloon".
The older kids, meaning us, were looking over the cards to make sure that they were positive. This kid named Alex found a funny card and showed it to all of us. it said:

A Myth about Autism is that you have it for a few years and then it goes away.
You have autism until you die.

And a picture of a really creepy smile.

Wings of Fire 04-09-2011 01:23 PM

I want to know who exactly gave you those extra 81 rep points so I can beat them to death.

Strike Witch 04-09-2011 02:07 PM

Stop being an Aspie, Joe.

Nate 04-09-2011 05:44 PM

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I want to know who exactly gave you those extra 81 rep points so I can beat them to death.

Well, 15 of those points were you. I can loan you a baseball bat, if you like.

Gwan-Thwei 04-09-2011 07:20 PM

so they are talking about me. Ossim.
Dunno why WoF wants to beat me, but ossim.
On topic: Heard something about a Celebrity who had an autistic son who "was cured". Real aspies and parents of aspies are outraged. Funny as shit to watch.

Majic 04-10-2011 01:24 AM

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And a picture of a really creepy smile.

By golly, that's flippin' brilliant; all it takes is a bit of unnervitude to turn something lame into a heap of awesome...

STM 04-10-2011 01:50 AM

I never saw anyone with mild autism don't think, but I've seen moderate autism in my school in two blokes a year below and two years above, they sorta just bumble around with few friends keeping themselves to themselves but my Mum's job is to work with kids who have special needs and there's a severely autistic child at her school who only really just started talking to people besides his family at 8 or 9.

ziggy 04-11-2011 07:36 AM

I knew one autistic in my boy scout troop long ago who would just wander around staring blankly up at the sky when we were trying to head back to our camp together in the dark. It was really annoying because the adults would get pissed at us if he got lost so we had to babysit him constantly.

Wings of Fire 04-11-2011 07:38 AM

I know this one autistic girl and she's lovely and sweet and a joy to be around.

ziggy 04-11-2011 07:41 AM

Hey good for you! I'm not saying they're all bad. Sometimes they are more interesting than the norms who walk this earth. Is she cute?

Wings of Fire 04-11-2011 07:53 AM

She has a cute personality.

LDG519 04-11-2011 10:23 PM

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I hope you realize that people with autism don't intentionally strive to be bad behaved.

not all do but there are some who decide that because they have autism they can do as they wish and use the autism factor to shield them from trouble

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Oh god, that reminds me...
I used to have an autistic friend named Kobi. Me, Kobi, and Chris would always hang out across the school, loitering and shit like that. Kobi had brought money, and had bought an ice cream.
Well, this mexican kid comes up to Kobi, and for no reason, punches him in the jaw. Kobi went berzerk on the kid and beat him over the head with the cone. It was great.

reminds me of my crazy days when they had me on add medicine, if any thing bad happened to me I automatically asumed that someone had done it intentionally and deserved a pounding, and anyone who tried to stop me also deserved a pounding. this lead to me head butting a teacher who was trying to stop me from beating up a kid who passed a tenis ball to me when I wasn't ready, needless to say I got suspended and they decided I needed to be reanalysed.

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On topic: It bugs me when people torture mildly autistic kids, but treat the lower functioning ones like gods. Never quite got that.

in my year 10 support class one person had the teachers writing all his work down for him, but when he was in year 7 he was completely capable of writing his own work.

CrissCross 04-11-2011 10:38 PM

every guy in my main family has asperges apart from me...


Or do i O.o

Dixanadu 04-12-2011 06:23 AM

No, you have Asscookies.

Gwan-Thwei 04-12-2011 07:10 AM

@LDG519 You seem to get what I'm talking about. Are you new here? I haven't seen you before....

@CrissCross my families the exact opposite, we all have it, except for my mother.

Disgruntled Intern 04-14-2011 04:57 PM

Gwan-Thwei, you're a fucking penis wart. I've been reading what you write, or trying to read what you write, and I just can't get over you. You're so fucking dumb. Jesus.

Your "people with mental ticks need to adjust and learn to live with it" attitude is astounding. I'm sure your parents had to adjust and learn to live with you once this delightful personality of yours came into bloom, but for fucks sake, have a little compassion.

On a side note, I've been diagnosed with 'severe' depression and social anxiety. Medicated for both.

Gwan-Thwei 04-14-2011 05:22 PM

@Disgruntled Intern I understand that dealing with it is hard, but most kids that I've run into believe that now that they've been diagnosed with something, they don't need to try to improve.

On a side note, I've discovered that an autistic kid at my school has had multiple charges for attempted rape. He's higher functioning and knows what he's doing. Scares the shit out of me.

Wings of Fire 04-14-2011 05:24 PM

Maybe you should work for Fox News.

MA 04-14-2011 07:52 PM

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On a side note, I've discovered that an autistic kid at my school has had multiple charges for attempted rape. He's higher functioning and knows what he's doing. Scares the shit out of me.

just stop posting. at least in this thread. generally, your posts stink of rotting placenta and are not being taken seriously.

Dipstikk 04-15-2011 12:31 AM

Gwan's gettin' his lulz on.

Friend, I've got no patience for ableist shit-stirrers, and from the sound of it, neither do most of the other members here. Stereotypes are only funny to people who don't belong to the group being mocked, so you can take your "funny anecdotes" that have no purpose other than to degrade the same people with whom I and many others here share the titular mental "tick" and shove them all right back up where you pulled them out. This isn't amateur hour on /b/ and nobody's laughing but you.

When you are your own audience and this is the material you're working with, that's a pretty pathetic set of circumstances. If you're legitimately incapable of understanding why dragging a half ton sack of freshly used diapers into a perfume shop like you're doing here might be offensive, then all I can tell you is, I may be autistic and therefor may have some trouble relating to people and fitting into social situations, but damn, at least I'm not as socially inept as you've been.

When people tell you to get off the stage, you don't stay there and wait for the maligned masses to start lobbing rotten tomatoes. Use your brain, son.

AvengingGibbons 04-15-2011 12:42 AM

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On a side note, I've been diagnosed with 'severe' depression and social anxiety. Medicated for both.

Wooo! Me too! :D.. :(... not medicated though... it's CBT for me.

Dixanadu 04-15-2011 03:20 AM

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your posts stink of rotting placenta

That was the highlight of my day.

Gwan-Thwei 04-15-2011 08:50 AM

@Dipstikk I'm not trying to start a shitstorm, merely giving my opinion on the subject, which is what a discussion is for. I posted my thoughts, now you post yours. That's how discussions work. We all don't think alike, which is why people make threads like these.

Honestly, I'm sorry if the cynical way I think offends you, I didn't mean or want to offend anyone. I'll try harder next time.

LDG519 04-15-2011 11:52 PM

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On a side note, I've discovered that an autistic kid at my school has had multiple charges for attempted rape. He's higher functioning and knows what he's doing. Scares the shit out of me.

until you said that I had no problem with what you have posted, to be frank this disturbed me and judging by peoples reactions I don't think anyone else was less disturbed, you can say your opinion but in this case youre opinion was already known and aside from the person being slightly autistic this has nothing to do with the topic and doesn't really belong here, out of all the people who do wrong things there are bound to be some who are autistic, as a guideline, after you type what you want to say, read it and if it is disturbing or you think it could be inturpreted in a way that would be disturbing, rephrase so it can't be taken in a disturbing way, or if that can't be done then delete the bit(s) that are or could be disturbing

CrissCross 04-16-2011 12:05 AM

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Gwan's gettin' his lulz on.

Friend, I've got no patience for ableist shit-stirrers, and from the sound of it, neither do most of the other members here. Stereotypes are only funny to people who don't belong to the group being mocked, so you can take your "funny anecdotes" that have no purpose other than to degrade the same people with whom I and many others here share the titular mental "tick" and shove them all right back up where you pulled them out. This isn't amateur hour on /b/ and nobody's laughing but you.

When you are your own audience and this is the material you're working with, that's a pretty pathetic set of circumstances. If you're legitimately incapable of understanding why dragging a half ton sack of freshly used diapers into a perfume shop like you're doing here might be offensive, then all I can tell you is, I may be autistic and therefor may have some trouble relating to people and fitting into social situations, but damn, at least I'm not as socially inept as you've been.

When people tell you to get off the stage, you don't stay there and wait for the maligned masses to start lobbing rotten tomatoes. Use your brain, son.

you tell him dipstikk! :D

Majic 04-17-2011 07:38 PM

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not all do but there are some who decide that because they have autism they can do as they wish and use the autism factor to shield them from trouble

Lots of people believe they can do as they wish, it's the nature of behavioral inhibition, regardless of cause. Autism, ADHD and Bi/Unipolarity are examples of underlying neurological situations that influence a mediation of the frontal cortex's influence in one's actions; the correlation is the presence of strong, stressful emotional states. A wide variety of drugs (which mimic stress and emotional states) also create this affect, for various reasons, the prime example being dopaminergic drugs of abuse and their alteration of experiencing pleasure, which can lead to a full-blown addict personality wherein the intake of a drug registers with the brain as a survival need. With Autism specifically, I would attribute the selfish misapplication of a diagnosis as a result of inadequate behavioral intervention, poor understanding of the nature of the condition, or even misdiagnosis and/or the presence of overlooked co-existing conditions. With a good idea of the mind you're working with, in particular the primary manner of thought (visual/music & math/detail-oriented verbal logic; I'm the latter), it should be possible to make most cases get their shit together.

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On a side note, I've discovered that an autistic kid at my school has had multiple charges for attempted rape. He's higher functioning and knows what he's doing. Scares the shit out of me.

That's a disturbing but entirely believable scenario, for example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Napper

Throw a functional manifestation of Autism on top of psychopathic tendencies that contrast traditional values of human goodwill, and you have a recipe for disaster. They would be more fixated upon and motivated by strong emotional urges, have an increased capacity to plan and execute their desires, and have a pervasive tendency to repeat their pursuant actions. I'm glad CBT got brought up, because the basis of cognitive therapy helps elucidate this concept...

Semi-conscious beliefs/assumptions/values -> self-talk -> behaviors

If a fundamental value (ie, "raping people is bad, so you shouldn't do it") is poorly ingrained or altogether absent, then inner dialogue in favor of the act can occur, which can then result in unacceptable choices of behavior. Sexual situations would particularly run a risk, considering that both looking at an attractive person and verbal/physical acts of aggression release dopamine in the brain (which as previously mentioned, influences a bypass of rational judgment in our actions). Whatever the fuck is wrong with that dude would be impossible to tell without meticulous evaluation, but sad as it is to say, the same sort of capacities that allow someone like me an information specialization and obsession with serving others can totally produce persistent, despicable acts. I would make an absolutely fantastic criminal mastermind, if it interested me... thank lordy I'm not a narcissistic sociopathic extrovert.

Keep posting, Gwan. You bring up interesting shit :p

Gwan-Thwei 04-19-2011 07:50 PM

Okay, so we were talking about grades the other day, and I brought up this one girl Kira. She's a plain looking girl, with fingers that aren't fully formed. She's nice enough, but can get emotional really fast.
In Math, we were having this huge 90 question review and Kira said that she couldn't do it "because she had bad dizzy spells" and proceeded to cry. She then ran to the back of the classroom, whining about her mom, then pulled out her DS and started playing pokemon.
I told this to my friends, and they said that she pretty much does that in every class. My thoughts are...why aren't the teachers stopping this BS? Now, granted, she might have some nausea every once in a while, but every class? Haven't thy noticed a pattern or anything?

Side note: She asked out the Perverted kid mentioned above. I'm assuming she has no idea that he's been charged. Should I say something?

Nate 04-19-2011 07:56 PM

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Okay, so we were talking about grades the other day, and I brought up this one girl Kira. She's a plain looking girl, with fingers that aren't fully formed. She's nice enough, but can get emotional really fast.
In Math, we were having this huge 90 question review and Kira said that she couldn't do it "because she had bad dizzy spells" and proceeded to cry. She then ran to the back of the classroom, whining about her mom, then pulled out her DS and started playing pokemon.
I told this to my friends, and they said that she pretty much does that in every class. My thoughts are...why aren't the teachers stopping this BS? Now, granted, she might have some nausea every once in a while, but every class? Haven't thy noticed a pattern or anything?

Side note: She asked out the Perverted kid mentioned above. I'm assuming she has no idea that he's been charged. Should I say something?

Why is this relevant to the thread? It just sounds like you want to bitch about people you find annoying, rather than comment on someone who has an Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Daxter King 04-19-2011 10:06 PM

I honestly think a thread about people we find annoying would be great, but maybe he finds people with an Austism Spectrum Disorder annoying?

MA 04-20-2011 07:13 AM

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Throw a functional manifestation of Autism on top of psychopathic tendencies that contrast traditional values of human goodwill, and you have a recipe for disaster. They would be more fixated upon and motivated by strong emotional urges, have an increased capacity to plan and execute their desires, and have a pervasive tendency to repeat their pursuant actions. I'm glad CBT got brought up, because the basis of cognitive therapy helps elucidate this concept...

Semi-conscious beliefs/assumptions/values -> self-talk -> behaviors

If a fundamental value (ie, "raping people is bad, so you shouldn't do it") is poorly ingrained or altogether absent, then inner dialogue in favor of the act can occur, which can then result in unacceptable choices of behavior. Sexual situations would particularly run a risk, considering that both looking at an attractive person and verbal/physical acts of aggression release dopamine in the brain (which as previously mentioned, influences a bypass of rational judgment in our actions). Whatever the fuck is wrong with that dude would be impossible to tell without meticulous evaluation, but sad as it is to say, the same sort of capacities that allow someone like me an information specialization and obsession with serving others can totally produce persistent, despicable acts. I would make an absolutely fantastic criminal mastermind, if it interested me... thank lordy I'm not a narcissistic sociopathic extrovert.

you talk such horse shit. fucking armchair psychiatrist.

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Keep posting, Gwan. You bring up interesting shit :p

holy fuck, you really do talk shit!