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OANST 06-15-2009 01:04 PM

Fucking Mr. Bungle. Jesus Christ. Is there no topic that they aren't applicable to?

OddjobAbe 06-15-2009 01:21 PM

I'll always succeed in linking them to anything.

Laser 06-15-2009 01:27 PM

What about the Abortion thread?

Care to link them to that?

joshkrz 06-15-2009 01:28 PM

Or the Smoking Cat thread?

Somehow I think your gonna prove me wrong...

OddjobAbe 06-15-2009 01:32 PM

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What about the Abortion thread?

Care to link them to that?

They wrote a song about a paedophile clown who asphyxiates himself. Paedophiles. Paed. Children. Babies. Ovaries. Sperm. Potential Life.

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Or the Smoking Cat thread?

Somehow I think your gonna prove me wrong...

Trey Spruance had a dog. Dogs are assosciated with cats. Cats don't smoke.

joshkrz 06-15-2009 01:35 PM

OANST's cat does. He's also filthy rich and dresses smartly.

That is all I'm stating on the matter.

mr.odd 06-15-2009 01:41 PM

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Brick Top

He feeds people to his pigs

How is that not awesome?

what movie is he from, that seems very familiar.

MA 06-15-2009 01:44 PM

Snatch, the sequel to Lock Stock & 2 Smoking Barrels.

OANST 06-15-2009 01:48 PM

Alright already. I checked them out. I just watched the 'Pink Cigarette' video, and....... it was pretty fucking funny. Goddamn you guys for being right.

mr.odd 06-15-2009 01:53 PM

the killer from no country for old men.
http://www.deepglamour.net/.a/6a00e5...fdcb970c-800wi

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imag...ier_bardem.jpg
carrys around a shotgun with a suppresor, he also useses that tool they killed cattle with to open locked doors.

MA 06-15-2009 01:55 PM

a bolt gun?

OddjobAbe 06-15-2009 01:55 PM

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Alright already. I checked them out. I just watched the 'Pink Cigarette' video, and....... it was pretty fucking funny. Goddamn you guys for being right.

The Travolta one was my favorite. Those mad circus organs and BDSM masks were great.

James Finlayson from Laurel and Hardy always played a funny villain. God damn you if you haven't seen Laurel and Hardy.

mr.odd 06-15-2009 01:57 PM

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a bolt gun?

i'm not sure what its called, but that sounds about right

OANST 06-15-2009 01:59 PM

Yes, Javier Bardem is a bad motherfucker.

If you want to see a truly brutal performance by him, make sure to watch Before Night Falls. Bitches be runnin', but he brings 'em all down.




With beautiful poetry.

used:) 06-15-2009 04:37 PM

It's called a cattle gun, I believe.

And yeah. Bardem kicks ass.

Nate 06-15-2009 06:07 PM

http://icons.iconator.com/346/ICONAT...6833119fb1.gif

Mac Sirloin 06-15-2009 06:28 PM

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They wrote a song about a paedophile clown who asphyxiates himself. Paedophiles. Paed. Children. Babies. Ovaries. Sperm. Potential Life.

Pink Cigarette?

ArtemisPanthar 06-15-2009 07:14 PM

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The thing about horror movies, it's full of stupid heroes and heroines that are unbelievably naive and inept at just about everything except screaming. I don't want to watch some foolish person run away from this crazy super strong killing machine or whatever, it's one sided and totally lame.

I mean, the Smiley guy from Psycho moves at like 10-20mph or whatever, and it's supposed to be a human in a disguise? It makes no sense.

Sci-Fi Horror is a lot better. Alien and Pitch Black are my favs of that genre. Resident Evil is good too (But I hate the core games).

That's a bit of a gross generalization for a wide and varied genre...
As with all genre, horror can be broken up into subgenre. Please do not lump the entire genre into vapid slasher flicks as they make up only a small (albeit loud and popular) portion of the genre.

Perhaps you ought to try a nice Psychological Horror (my personal favorite subgenre)? In those the horror is derived from psychological concepts (even if they're represented via monsters), preying upon natural emotions and aspects of the mind to disturb the viewer/reader. Try something like Jacob's Ladder or The Machinist.

If it weren't terribly off-topic I would go into the other subgenre. But its bad form to derail a topic just because I'm all butthurt about overgeneralization.

Smiley guy from Psycho? Do you mean the killer from the Scream movies?

Mac Sirloin 06-15-2009 07:27 PM

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That's a bit of a gross generalization for a wide and varied genre...
As with all genre, horror can be broken up into subgenre. Please do not lump the entire genre into vapid slasher flicks as they make up only a small (albeit loud and popular) portion of the genre.

Perhaps you ought to try a nice Psychological Horror (my personal favorite subgenre)? In those the horror is derived from psychological concepts (even if they're represented via monsters), preying upon natural emotions and aspects of the mind to disturb the viewer/reader. Try something like Jacob's Ladder or The Machinist.

If it weren't terribly off-topic I would go into the other subgenre. But its bad form to derail a topic just because I'm all butthurt about overgeneralization.

Smiley guy from Psycho? Do you mean the killer from the Scream movies?

Have you ever heard of a movie called Lucker The Necrophagous?

ArtemisPanthar 06-15-2009 07:43 PM

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Have you ever heard of a movie called Lucker The Necrophagous?

Heard of it, never seen and don't know too much about it. Its one of those gory-borderline pornographic horrors, yeah?

OddjobAbe 06-16-2009 06:42 AM

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Pink Cigarette?

Dead Goon.

MA 06-16-2009 07:42 AM

i was talking to AlexFili via PM about this next favourite bad guy of mine, Mark 'Chopper' Read from the film Chopper. a real australian criminal that, i believe, is still alive.

dont get me wrong, he did some awful things (nothing compared to horror films, but this was real), but he seems to be someone you love to hate. he spent time in jail, murdered a number of people with a 410 shotgun and numerous pistols, and even got an inmate to cut his own (chopper's) ears off so he could get out of jail, making out it was done against his will.

i think he suffered from a number of mental illnesses (probably paranoia being one due to the way he acted), and is a chicken farmer in some safehouse somewhere now. this fits into this topic because he's out of a film.

Mac Sirloin 06-16-2009 11:07 AM

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Heard of it, never seen and don't know too much about it. Its one of those gory-borderline pornographic horrors, yeah?

Oh, it's just awful. Belgian horror at its lowest.
First of all, it's shot with the worst quality I've ever seen, the title character violates the corpse of a 3 weeks dead hooker he murdered, who was kept 'fresh' with natural gas.
The Audio is dubbed very poorly, the sound effects are all way too loud and the film itself is basically just one enormous example of the director being a sick fuck.
You're the only other person I know who at least knows about it. Neat.
EDIT: APART FROM JORDAN WHO MIGHT BE READING THIS RIGHT NOW
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Dead Goon.

Alrighty.

OANST 06-16-2009 11:12 AM

Try 'Nekromantic'. That is some seriously sick shit.

Also, I intend to see 'Martyrs' tonight, and I hear that it trumps everything ever made in this department.

Bullet Magnet 06-16-2009 12:33 PM

Scar immediately comes to mind, as does the tag team duo of the Abrahamic god and devil.

Wings of Fire 06-16-2009 12:45 PM

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as does the tag team duo of the Abrahamic god and devil.

Oh, you.

EDIT: Also Alex in Golden Sun takes the cake for being a Magnificent Bastard. Throughout the series he continually plays at least three sides against each other (Despite being a late player in the game) to very nearly become a victorious God over all. Only brutally stopped at the end by a Pound of Flesh Twist which left his fate open to interpretation by the players.

You first see him in the first of four lighthouses you have to stop the bad guys from lighting (Who are actually just playing into Alex's hand) where he is introduced as a pretty unspectacular minor villain whose only real powers are healing and teleportation. He outlasts the main villains of the first game however and very early on in the second game it becomes apparent that he's manipulating you and the new (false) bad guys with ease, going so far as purposefully healing your party before a climactic battle at the third lighthouse so you can fight the villains at good strength and then appearing after the battle with them and threatening your weakened party with destruction if you don't let them escape. He then disappears and isn't heard of till the end of the game where it is revealed that he set events in motion so that he would be at the receiving end of the lighthouses power and to make matters worse, to save the world you have to defeat the final boss and give him what he wants.


Also he manages to be a fantastic villain without spilling a drop of blood the whole way through both games, which merits him a distinction in its own right.

Mac Sirloin 06-16-2009 07:52 PM

Sauron has a pretty cool design, I have to give him that. Also supermace.

Zukan 06-17-2009 06:30 PM

Haha Christine I remember that film, miss Herbie gone bad.

I often cheer for the bad guys in films, it's not that I hate to see the good guys win or anything, I just find their motives a lot more fun to dissect. And well, I might be a little bit tired of the shallow and clichéed protagonists we usually see these days too.
But I often find that some really well done antagonists move me far more than your regular good guy does. What good guy has ever during the course of a film, managed to turn any of your morals or beliefs upside down? They don't exactly exist to serve that purpose in stories do they?

I picked 2 of my absolute favorites. One is animated and the other live-action.
This is going to be somewhat lenghty so beware, I tried to keep it varied with a few fun examples throughout so I hope you won't skip over it all.

Zigzag
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/01zigzag.jpg
Have no fear! Zigzag is here!

This is the coolest animated villain ever. Just look at his entrance during the intro to The Thief and The Cobbler. I mean damn, who does not want to crash into a party like that? Looks like he just came fresh out of the ministry of silly walks!
I'm not sure I want to know just how many pencil tests this guy went through before he was greenlit by the director, Richard Williams, but whatever amount of zero's preceded that value, I'm sure it was worth it because this is what animation really should be all about, which it unfortunately rarely is. Whenever I look at this guy, I see just extremely well portrayed caricature of different emotions. I can't help but feel evil, deceptiveness, and manipulation exploding out of the film frame. He's like a puppet master acting according to his own image, I mean literally he's like a puppet himself! And none of it relies on his looks, it's all about the way he moves! I've never seen a character quite like that before, it just boggles my mind the more I think about it.
One of my favorite parts from the movie is when he fiddles around with his playing cards. How does one even begin to conceptualize something like that? The animators must've been on crack.

Roy Batty
http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/w...ploads/roy.jpg
If only you could see what I have seen with your eyes.

There's not much of a point in trying to explain this man/android after what's been said during the final scenes of Blade Runner. People who have seen the film most likely knows why I picked him. For the rest of you, you have absolutely no excuse not to see this old classic! Just watch it for this guy alone. I heard the actor, Rutger Hauer, perhaps mostly recognized from The Hitcher, wasn't too pleased with all the bad guy roles he'd been given during his career. Most likely due to the performance shown in Blade Runner, he paved his way through villain-ville. You could call it both a blessing and a curse, but I'm pretty sure he is glad to have been given the chance to play a rarity such as Roy Batty. It's not just a bad guy who does evil things like look scary and kill people, just as a bad guy is supposed to! But he really nails the right amount of powerful yet subtle empathy the viewer has to feel in order for a protagonist to come out as human as he does.
You may dislike Roy Batty during your first viewing of the film, but you'll love him every single time you watch it afterwards.

Time to die.

Fil The Slig 06-17-2009 07:26 PM

My list:
1: THE CHAMP: SPAWN FROM SPAWN!
2.Riddick himself (Yeah,he IS a bad guy) from Chronicles of Riddick.
3. Oogie Boogie from The Nightmare Before Christmas.
4.The Clown from Spawn.
5.The Necromonger Lord from The Chronicles of Riddick.
6.Darth Vader from StarWars.
7.The Alien for Alien Series.
8.Predator from Alien/Predator/Alien&Predator series.
9.Martian's from The Matrian's Movie.
BTW,Oogie Boogie is The best animated Villain.Look at he's Intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0aoVpFCDw

MA 06-18-2009 06:52 AM

Oogie Boogie is great.

i've also got to say Tommy from Goodfella's (far right). a real out of control villain.

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