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Slaveless 12-10-2007 02:39 PM

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There may be some good glukkons who are deliberatley try to do good like err well there will be one there could also be some tribes of wild sligs who crawl round . also ther could be bad mudoken mercenaries who work for bad glukons so yeh

any way back to the title "Why did drpik get so many badges" must have been a lot of wars .

There is no such thing on Oddworld as being good. Everything is protrayed through the eyes of the 'hero', in which may actually have more in mind about actual good morals. (a.k.a., while Munch is concerned about his race, Dripik is concerned about his profits) However, it is never considered a good thing to cause genocide. (Seriousily, Abe has killed maybe hundreds of individuals along his journeys) So never take the protagnists in the story as truly good people.:)

However, there are some Industerial Mudokons, who work for profit.

Like Bullet Magnet has already said, Dripik has self rewarded badges. Actually, Slig Barracks has never been in a war. :p Dripik just gives himself a badge when profits are increased.;)

metroixer 12-10-2007 04:46 PM

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There is no such thing on Oddworld as being good. Everything is protrayed through the eyes of the 'hero', in which may actually have more in mind about actual good morals. (a.k.a., while Munch is concerned about his race, Dripik is concerned about his profits) However, it is never considered a good thing to cause genocide. (Seriousily, Abe has killed maybe hundreds of individuals along his journeys) So never take the protagnists in the story as truly good people.:)

However, there are some Industerial Mudokons, who work for profit.

Like Bullet Magnet has already said, Dripik has self rewarded badges. Actually, Slig Barracks has never been in a war. :p Dripik just gives himself a badge when profits are increased.;)

Then where did he get his eyepatch? =O

Was that just to make him look bad or did it really get permanently damaged?

Wil 12-11-2007 06:15 AM

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Q: How did Dripik lose his eye?
Alf:
As far as Dripik losing his eye, I don't think he lost an eye, he's just too stupid to realize he put the patch thing on.


abe is now! 12-11-2007 06:34 AM

Why are Sligs bad? Why do they follow the Glukkons and don't help the Mudokons? Have they a natural body or are they created by Vykkers Labs?

Zerox 12-11-2007 10:12 AM

The Sligs themselves are essentially slaves, at leas the majority. The Magog Cartel buys them off of Skillya, the Slig queen. They then are trained (not particularly well) and put to work, usually told that if they don't do their job, they'll be shot or whatever. Sligs enjoy their work anyway (so far as we know and have seen in the Oddworld universe), though they sometimes slack off.

Dripik's eyepatch is likely fashion and personal taste, and to make it look like he's been in a war or something.

Slig Barracks was created due to Dripik being a coward, and paranoid of a war or something. Slig Barracks has yet to see a war, and likely never will.

Wil 12-11-2007 10:28 AM

As the Magog Cartel steps up its retaliations against the terrorist attacks Abe is committing, we could start to see a war brewing between the two forces.

Sligs might not have much of a say in their career, but they’re not exactly slaves. For one they get paid, for two they love their work. It gives them the control, firepower and mobility their personalities are predisposed towards loving. Their body is completely natural, but they are hardly ever seen not wearing at least their mask.

metroixer 12-11-2007 05:30 PM

Dripik used to be like, my favorite glukkon cause I thought he was this badass guy who went mono-e-mono somehow against other enemies in war or something. The truth hurts >____>.

Ah well, thanks for answering, and the Alf quote made me laugh Max :P.

OddYouko 12-12-2007 06:14 AM

Why does Dripik forget his name? I mean is he really that stupid?

Zerox 12-12-2007 08:56 AM

Obviously yes.

Nate 12-12-2007 03:06 PM

The eyepatch obscures his view of the cue cards.

abe is now! 12-13-2007 05:01 AM

A question about AE: at the ending of the game (the good ending and the saving bonus) Abe says that they must free their friends. But when did they do it? And why didn't Abe rescue them before?

Wil 12-13-2007 09:02 AM

a) In the future.
b) He hadn’t had the chance yet.

abe is now! 12-14-2007 08:54 AM

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a) In the future.
b) He hadn’t had the chance yet.

But did he really do it or have those Mudokons been used as the Scrubs of MO?

Zerox 12-14-2007 09:22 AM

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But did he really do it or have those Mudokons been used as the Scrubs of MO?

he didn't know about Mudokon slavery or start saving them until he found out in AO about it all. He isn't all powerful and can't do them all instantly, needs to travel etc. He hasn't known about it that long, so he wouldn't have had the time to go and save them.

There's alot more Mudokons than just the ones in AO, AE and MO. Thousands, millions, thousands of millions. Though they may not spread as far on their planet as humans do, the planet is 10x larger. Theory dictates that on average the numbers of individuals in each species is going to be higher than on Earth.

abe is now! 12-14-2007 09:31 AM

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he didn't know about Mudokon slavery or start saving them until he found out in AO about it all. He isn't all powerful and can't do them all instantly, needs to travel etc. He hasn't known about it that long, so he wouldn't have had the time to go and save them.

There's alot more Mudokons than just the ones in AO, AE and MO. Thousands, millions, thousands of millions. Though they may not spread as far on their planet as humans do, the planet is 10x larger. Theory dictates that on average the numbers of individuals in each species is going to be higher than on Earth.

Excuse but... I meant the Mudokons in the prison at the end of AE, only those Mudokons. And I don't know why they are there: why weren't they in the SoulStorm Brewery or in other places?

Zerox 12-14-2007 10:29 AM

Coulda made it clearer then...

The ones locked up were in a small, temporary building where the Glukkons had gone out to collect slaves from where they were living in the wild. From there, they are transported back to workplaces/selling places or whatever. The ones you see here are before they end up in Soulstorm Brewery or whatever.

abe is now! 12-15-2007 01:45 AM

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Coulda made it clearer then...

The ones locked up were in a small, temporary building where the Glukkons had gone out to collect slaves from where they were living in the wild. From there, they are transported back to workplaces/selling places or whatever. The ones you see here are before they end up in Soulstorm Brewery or whatever.

So they haven't been transported to SoulStorm Brewery because Abe closed it before the Glukkons could bring them there.

OddYouko 12-15-2007 08:14 AM

But Abe never get's to rescue them cause in the beginning of Munch's Oddysee it shows Abe and his friends going to that well. .__.

Question in the beginning of Munch's Oddysee when we see Abe and his friends how come Alf and the others have their hair cut really short?

Bullet Magnet 12-15-2007 10:30 AM

Come on, they've spent their lives as slaves. Let them discover the joy of fashion trends!

Zerox 12-15-2007 02:18 PM

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So they haven't been transported to SoulStorm Brewery because Abe closed it before the Glukkons could bring them there.

That scene happened before Abe got involved in Soulstorm Brewery at all, it's not happening in the present.

Wil 12-16-2007 05:41 AM

No, the scene is happening at the same time. It’s showing just a few of the ‘more of us out there’ that Abe refers to, but the exact context of their enslavement isn’t made clear. Obviously it reuses the cage from the ‘Reward’ FMV, but whether it’s supposed to be the exact same cage, another of the same kind, or just a generic prison isn’t known or, in my opinion, in any way important.

abe is now! 12-16-2007 06:36 AM

Thank you, but I mean the Mudokos in the prison at the end: when have they been saved? That's all.

Wil 12-16-2007 07:27 AM

Yes, as I have just said, they are not any specific Mudokons. They’re random and generic.

Zerox 12-16-2007 09:48 AM

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No, the scene is happening at the same time. It’s showing just a few of the ‘more of us out there’ that Abe refers to, but the exact context of their enslavement isn’t made clear. Obviously it reuses the cage from the ‘Reward’ FMV, but whether it’s supposed to be the exact same cage, another of the same kind, or just a generic prison isn’t known or, in my opinion, in any way important.

Are you sure? I thought it was more likely to be slightly in the past, as surely Phleg wouldn't have the time to be messing around selling brew just after Necrum mines got blown up? So I'd assumed it was recently, but not the immediate present.

Wil 12-16-2007 09:57 AM

The scene in ‘Reward’ strikes me as being a slight flashback (if only because Abe uses the pluperfect tense when he describes how the Mudokons had forgotten their past), but we’re talking about the scene in the Happy Ending.

Nate 12-16-2007 07:06 PM

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Thank you, but I mean the Mudokos in the prison at the end: when have they been saved? That's all.

Not all the muds in mudos will be saved in a game. Abe has a life in between the games as well. Those specific muds (which, as Max says, are generic and not entirely relevant to the overall plot) may have been saved between AE and MO or they may yet to be saved. Either way, it's not important.

abe is now! 12-17-2007 05:51 AM

Ok. But at beginning of AE, when the Mudokons rech the Necrum, a blind Mudokon dies and Abe isn't sad: did that Mudokon influence Abe's Quarma? And why didn't Abe help him to survive?

Jordan 12-17-2007 06:17 AM

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Ok. But at beginning of AE, when the Mudokons rech the Necrum, a blind Mudokon dies and Abe isn't sad: did that Mudokon influence Abe's Quarma? And why didn't Abe help him to survive?

No, it didn't, because Abe wouldn't have had the chance to save him as he was so high.

Oddey 12-17-2007 06:31 AM

A question. How could Abe have been able to go so long without food or sleep? To explain a little better he took maybe 2 days or one to save every mudokon in Rupture Farms and he didn't stop for rest. Same goes for AE because that had to have taken longer than 1 day. I know it's not too important I'm just wondering if there is an explaination.

Friendly Slig 12-17-2007 08:12 AM

"We had to do something, so me and some others went to search for Necrum. Our journy started well, we were kind of excited.
But by lunch time, we were getting pretty tired.
By dinner, it was unbearable." Abe said when he was searching for Necrum
I guess he does get hungry and exhausted, you can see from his skinny body that he doesn't eat well... but don't forget that he drinks brew while playing the game :p