I didn't go into Prometheus expecting a horror movie, neither did I leave believing I had just seen one.
Like I said, it was forced. |
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what, really? how fucking stupid.
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It's really not like that. Besides, the film itself provides all the answers if you read into it a little. You should watch that video I posted.
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Prometheus *really* is dumb, and sucks.
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Varrok confirmed for best debater on OWF
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Varrok has the answers.
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I've watched the "explained" video before. It's incredibly half-assed and reaching as fuck. The film is just so incredibly poorly-thought-out.
It's great up until the sex scene, then the whole thing just goes completely to shit right after. |
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Movies.com: You throw religion and spirituality into the equation for Prometheus, though, and it almost acts as a hand grenade. We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered? RS: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him. At no point does the final product of the film Prometheus include a Jesus alien, nor was it intended to. I am glad it wasn't in the final cut but I think it's a cute little idea the way Scott puts it. It was a competent film and all this 'BUT WHERE ARE THE ANSWERS' talk indicates you either didn't bother with a rewatch or just weren't paying attention the first time around. I could give a shit about Ridley Scott's smug fucking ass but seeing nerds hyperventilate about this movie being bad by basically admitting that they don't get it is really fucking tired and boring at this point. It was a well made movie that pulled off a little bit of high-concept sci-fi in an ostensibly Hollywood way. If you can't recognize this boo hoo for you, learn2movies and stop complaining that it didn't make sense. I watched Titanic for the first time ever. I had a lot of problems with it, the script especially, but it's one of my girlfriends favorite movies and all the little details she kept telling me about the production really made it fun. The ending almost made me tear up. Alllllmost. I watched World's End. I think Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead and World's End are just The Expendables for smug NEETs/nerds. Hot Fuzz has a passable climax, the rest is complete fucking tripe. Seriously, irredeemable poorly made trash that is viewed by (North American) 'intellectual' subcultures as clever cinema when in reality it's just low budget repackaged hollywood trash. I cannot stress how much I loathe both these and Doctor Who. Total and complete shit. :
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It's true though, it's extraordinarily half-assed and even comical that they realized they'd basically had nothing really scary and had some big-headed magic teleporting zombie kill half the crew.
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Really? I think it was timed fairly well, they built up to it with a very 'shit is hitting the fan' vibe right up until Fiefeld-monster shockingly smashes the guy's head in. It demonstrates just how volatile the goo/products of the goo are in a concise and shocking way, eliminating 3 irrelevant unnamed characters in the process. 'Half the crew' is thoroughly incorrect, and if you found nothing prior to that point even remotely unsettling you're desensitized and not in a position to critique it I guess?
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I agree with you about Prometheus. It really irritates me that people don't like it because tey didn't understand it. It's not bad storytelling, it's excellent storytelling.
Hot Fuzz and Shaun are great, and I have no idea why you brought up Doctor Who but at the end of the day, it's your opinion and opinions can be fucking wrong. |
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There was nothing remotely unsettling about a bloaty-headed corpse managing to walk from the alien structure all the way to directly in front of the human advanced starship and assume a stupid sitting pose with nobody at all noticing until it had apparently been sitting there like a retard for some time. Then it gets up and wigs out like an 80s TV-movie psycho. It was not unsettling. It was comical. :
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I liked David. We can all agree David was good and the best thing about the movie, right?
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He might be the best thing about the movie, but he certainly won't be good.
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Talking about Prometheus is tricky, cause there are some real moments that make your head scratch even if you pay attention(Run to the left you dumb bitch), but there are also a lot of complaint thrown out at it that can be remedied by simply paying attention. I personally do not think a movie needs to excel in all ways to be a good movie, Prometheus certainly doesn't have the best writing or acting at times, but the visuals knock it out of the part and I will like it forever because of that. Movie are a visual medium, to ignore that entire aspect of a movie is a little silly. Also, part of the reason the script is so convoluted is that the original script was just too much like an Alien movie for RS, so he had Lindelofleolfolfolfo go over it and basically said, "I want it to be like an alien movie but not too much".
Anyways, I just saw the new Breaking Bad, Oymandius. Best hour of television I have seen. |
Visuals are the only reason I've watched Wall-E and District 9 as often as I have.
Well okay, that and sound design. |
I love Wall-E for all that it is, probably my favorite Pixar film.
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It was good, and visually it was fucking beautiful, but the story didn't really pull me in. My current favourite Pixar movie is probably The Incredibles. I could watch that movie for days on end and never tire of it.
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The visuals are nice, but you simply can't say a movie is good just because it looks pretty.
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Yeah, Promethius is incredibly beautiful and atmospheric and awe-inspiring but then all the characters completely drop the ball and it just ends up feeling even worse than if the movie was all-bad because there's clearly some actual effort in there that got ruined by fucking stupid writing.
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New Breaking Bad episode... it was.... it was... the best thing I saw on TV series in a long time, and quite possibly ever
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The only headscratcher for me was whether the squid baby was actually a hybrid fetus or just a giant mutant sperm. |
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It left me speechless, honestly. One of the best episodes of the series. |
The Prometheus hate does seem a bit silly. I wasn't that crazy about it, but it wasn't that bad. I only saw it the once, but, I mean, I wasn't like offended or anything by it.
Let's have another Scott Pilgrim fight. That was funnier. |
For me Mac's rant about the Pegg and Frost films go for everything Edgar Wright has ever written.
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I'm surprised that almost none of you are talking about Breaking Bad. I always thought most of you are crazy about the show.
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Ignoring the fact I haven't got past the second episode yet, I'm still reeling from the horrific pun of a title that is 'Ozymandias'.
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What's so punny about it? It's the title of a real poem made about 200 years ago
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That's a line from the poem and I'm sure I don't need to tell you what 'works' in the context of Breaking Bad refers to. |
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What I'm saying is there's no way in hell that pun wasn't intentional. |
What's breaking bad anyway
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I also watched the new episode. It was mental, especially the beginning.
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I still don't get the 'pun', unfortunately.
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Ozymandias I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away. |