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Oddey 12-03-2007 06:58 AM

He probrably just needed to take off those garments to give Abe the handscar. Maybe they somehow diminish his powers a little. Or maybe the magic or whatever you call it can't flow through with those on.

Wil 12-03-2007 07:15 AM

Or maybe he just took his sandals off because they were itching like hell. There’s only one Big Face.

abe is now! 12-03-2007 07:35 AM

Oh maybe he wanted to use them just because the impervious soil could break his feet.

OddYouko 12-03-2007 11:53 AM

Oh ok. ^^; It'd be kinda stupid if there where two.

Slaveless 12-03-2007 01:07 PM

Okay, tell me if this is insane. I personally believe that Big Face is lame (as in, he can't move his legs in a very good fashion). For example, Big Face never walks in all of his cameos in AO or AE. Also, he uses teleportation to move most of the time. And when we saw Big Face for the first time (the time we saw him make a step into Abe's vision) he used a walking stick.

What do you guys think? I'm looking for evidence that may disprove this.

Jordan 12-04-2007 02:06 AM

Well, he has the power, he might as well use it. How old is Big Face supposed to be anyway?

Bullet Magnet 12-04-2007 07:54 AM

Left to their own devices, mudokons don't normally live more than forty years. What kind of years, I don't know.

OddYouko 12-04-2007 02:53 PM

Ok this is the first question that popped in my head.

If Mullock did return and was in Munch's Oddysee would they change his voice? I mean make it were you could understand him? I didn't have a problem understanding him in AO but..yeah. O_o;

Slaveless 12-04-2007 03:39 PM

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Ok this is the first question that popped in my head.

If Mullock did return and was in Munch's Oddysee would they change his voice? I mean make it were you could understand him? I didn't have a problem understanding him in AO but..yeah. O_o;

I assume so, since all of the characters in AE had became a little more understandable.

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Well, he has the power, he might as well use it.

But what if the reason behind this power is that he can't travel any other way?

Mistress of Oddworld 12-04-2007 04:40 PM

Maybe because he's so sacred that he can't move anyother way, or perhaps he's too good to walk. Anyways, it makes him look super cool.
Haha, I just had this image of BigFace teleporting just a few feet too far from a cliff.. Ah, I'm so mean :p

Slaveless 12-04-2007 05:15 PM

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Maybe because he's so sacred that he can't move anyother way, or perhaps he's too good to walk. Anyways, it makes him look super cool.

I doubt that Big Face is in any way haughty, proud, snobbish, or disdainfully selfish. And isn't Abe just as sacred? That would mean that Abe shouldn't be allowed to walk.

Zerox 12-05-2007 08:27 AM

Mudokons wouldn't abuse their power like that.

I don't ever recall seeing Big face travel a relatively short distance, though, and presumably whenever he has turned up, it had been from fairly far away initially. I'd assume he was cramming in all he could before appearing to Abe. Big Face must be pretty busy.

Abe gets tired possessing Lulu for...a couple of hours? So I doubt Big Face would teleport merely for the sake of it, it would be far too tiring for him.

I'd personally think that Big Face in particular, with his special powers and abilities, would have an at least slightly longer lifespan than the average Mudokon. But 'average Mudokon lifespan' is hard to define. A Mudokon eating natural food in the clean air of a forest, and one breathing fumes and eating chemically rich products would surely have much different lifespans?

OddYouko 12-05-2007 10:27 AM

Why would Abe get tired possessing Lulu when he had no trouble possessing the three Glukkons in Exoddus? And I read somewhere Abe could possess Slogs? :confused:

Zerox 12-05-2007 12:39 PM

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Why would Abe get tired possessing Lulu when he had no trouble possessing the three Glukkons in Exoddus? And I read somewhere Abe could possess Slogs? :confused:

Abe only possesses Slogs in MO, he can't in the other two games.

At the end of MO, in the good ending, Abe has been possessing Lulu for an unknown amount of time, presumably from when he ordered the Slig to go to the auction until they arrived and entered the auction. Near the end of the auction, Abe lost control of Lulu a couple of times, as he was becoming tired from his exertions.

This was probably done for realism, and also in AO/AE unless you were messing about, Abe didn't possess anything to especially long periods of time.

OddYouko 12-05-2007 12:45 PM

Why Slogs now?

Oh I see. o_o

Slaveless 12-05-2007 12:56 PM

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Abe only possesses Slogs in MO, he can't in the other two games.

At the end of MO, in the good ending, Abe has been possessing Lulu for an unknown amount of time, presumably from when he ordered the Slig to go to the auction until they arrived and entered the auction. Near the end of the auction, Abe lost control of Lulu a couple of times, as he was becoming tired from his exertions.

This was probably done for realism, and also in AO/AE unless you were messing about, Abe didn't possess anything to especially long periods of time.

I suspect that if the orginal storyline of MO does come out, then this idea would be changed, due to the fact that you are suppose to control Lulu for exceptionally long periods of time.

Bullet Magnet 12-05-2007 02:43 PM

But not when Lulu is resisting as hard as he was at that auction.

Wil 12-06-2007 12:09 PM

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This was probably done for realism.

I suspect it was more for suspense than for realism.

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Why Slogs now?

No real reason, except that it shows Abe’s powers are growing. It adds virtually nothing to gameplay, just like possessing Scrabs and Paramites.

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I suspect that if the orginal storyline of MO does come out, then this idea would be changed, due to the fact that you are suppose to control Lulu for exceptionally long periods of time.

It might not be entirely down to the curtailed development of Munch’s Oddysee that Lulu’s role was reduced from what previews suggested would be in the final game. Early reports from OWI (exactly who and where I can’t remember or find back right now) mentioned that they were still evaluating just how much of a role Lulu should play to make sure he doesn’t become as important a character as Abe and Munch.

metroixer 12-06-2007 12:23 PM

In abe's oddysey, Abe's voice slowly changes throughout the FMVs I noticed.

Before he shuts off the power, Abe had that whole innocent sad depressing voice in a way.

After he shut it off, he had that nazally voice and kept it from then till today. Is there a reason for this?

Jordan 12-07-2007 12:41 AM

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In abe's oddysey, Abe's voice slowly changes throughout the FMVs I noticed.

Before he shuts off the power, Abe had that whole innocent sad depressing voice in a way.

After he shut it off, he had that nazally voice and kept it from then till today. Is there a reason for this?

I think it's because he's had to talk his way through his adventure. And all that speaking turned his voice a bit.

Bullet Magnet 12-07-2007 01:34 PM

I think Lulu still has a story to tell. He's certainly been set up for one. Starting from rock bottom is very compatible with OWI's sensibilities.

abe is now! 12-08-2007 03:58 AM

Question: in the Concept Art of AE there is the "Portal" in the Necrum but I don't see it in the game. What is it?
I post the link to the image. http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...=CAAE0090.jpg3

Zerox 12-08-2007 08:36 AM

Looks more like some sort of old gateway into Necrum, rather than a portal. Nothing there says anything about portal.

There's alot of old concept art like this, it's nothing particularly major.

abe is now! 12-08-2007 09:38 AM

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Looks more like some sort of old gateway into Necrum, rather than a portal. Nothing there says anything about portal.

There's alot of old concept art like this, it's nothing particularly major.

The name "portal" is from the Oddworlduniverse in Oddworld.com.

Wil 12-08-2007 12:19 PM

Regarding the wraps around the Big Face’s feet, they are also evident in the early designs of Abe, right up to and including the Shiflett Brothers’ sculpture of him.

Zerox 12-09-2007 05:04 AM

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The name "portal" is from the Oddworlduniverse in Oddworld.com.

What, is it specifically in reference to this image? Can you post a link?

If it's just the word 'portal' somewhere on the site, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with this. More likely to mean the bird portals.

Wil 12-09-2007 05:58 AM

It says ‘Portal’ on the image. To the left it says ‘Welcome to Edumm’. From what I remember of my time in Asia, many hilltribes have traditional gateways, more like arches made with branches, that are to do with channelling the spirits of nature, keeping bad spirits out of the village, or guiding the souls of the deceased to their next life. Maybe this portal in Necrum is meant to guide Mudokon spirits to Edumm, the Mudokons’ Heaven or Nirvana.

Or maybe it’s just an entranceway.

abe is now! 12-10-2007 06:54 AM

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It says ‘Portal’ on the image. To the left it says ‘Welcome to Edumm’. From what I remember of my time in Asia, many hilltribes have traditional gateways, more like arches made with branches, that are to do with channelling the spirits of nature, keeping bad spirits out of the village, or guiding the souls of the deceased to their next life. Maybe this portal in Necrum is meant to guide Mudokon spirits to Edumm, the Mudokons’ Heaven or Nirvana.

Or maybe it’s just an entranceway.

Are you trying to say that this portal could be the passage to the "better life" like the Buddhism, the Nirvana?

Norozov 12-10-2007 07:36 AM

There may be some good glukkons who are deliberatley try to do good like err well there will be one there could also be some tribes of wild sligs who crawl round . also ther could be bad mudoken mercenaries who work for bad glukons so yeh

any way back to the title "Why did drpik get so many badges" must have been a lot of wars .

Bullet Magnet 12-10-2007 12:26 PM

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Are you trying to say that this portal could be the passage to the "better life" like the Buddhism, the Nirvana?

If so, it is only symbolism.

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"Why did drpik get so many badges" must have been a lot of wars .

Not really. They were mostly, if not all, self-awarded.