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Wil 01-09-2008 08:40 AM

Resurrection totem.

Bullet Magnet 01-09-2008 08:46 AM

It never occurred to me that they might be the same ones. Actually the first time I played I didn't notice the bird portal and had to leave them there. If I had received the bad ending the first time around that might have meant more to me.

abe is now! 01-09-2008 09:40 AM

Picture request: Clakker. Can anyone post a Clakker image? I have never seen it and I can't find it. Thank you.

Xavier 01-09-2008 10:15 AM

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...CASW0004_1.jpg

abe is now! 01-09-2008 10:52 AM

Ok, thank you. But what's that strange kind of crocodile?

Wil 01-09-2008 01:42 PM

The crocodile creature is an Outlaw.

abe is now! 01-10-2008 05:13 AM

Ok, and a another question about SW's characters: can anyone post a Wolvark image? Thank you :)!!!

Wil 01-10-2008 05:20 AM

Concept art:


Screenshot:


p.s. Thinking about it, you might have been referring to Wolvarks when you asked what the crocodile creature is. I was thinking of Outlaws like this one. When we first saw them (which was before we first saw Wolvarks), and before we knew they were called Outlaws, we called them ‘croc hunters’. Not because they hunt crocs, but because they are hunters who look like crocs.

Confusing, I know.

abe is now! 01-10-2008 05:24 AM

Thank you. And a ready question for you: in MO, when Abe reach Big Well, Munch is in a room in Vykkers Labs. There there are some SoulStorm Brew's bottles and barrels? Why?

Bullet Magnet 01-10-2008 05:28 AM

Because employees and/or test subjects of Vykkerz Labs were drinking/force-fed SoulStorm Brew, and they were disposing of the waste in the usual and acceptable fashion of dropping it over the Spooceshrub Forest.

Max, how does that outlaw look like a crocodile?

Wil 01-10-2008 05:41 AM

Mostly for historical reasons, I admit. Even more shamefully, looking back, I can only find a couple of references to it.
http://www.oddworldforums.net/showth...ile#post136041
http://www.oddworldforums.net/showth...roc#post144118

abe is now! 01-10-2008 05:53 AM

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Because employees and/or test subjects of Vykkerz Labs were drinking/force-fed SoulStorm Brew, and they were disposing of the waste in the usual and acceptable fashion of dropping it over the Spooceshrub Forest.

But is that Brew the latest that was in FeeCo Depot or was that still produced (during MO)?

Wil 01-10-2008 06:00 AM

It could be leftover stock from Abe’s Exoddus, bottles that Vykkers Labs have stockpiled anyway, or bottles from other SoulStorm Breweries. After all, BlitzPacker Brew (essentially SoulStorm Brew in a harder, more damaging can) is readily available, so there must be other breweries out there.

abe is now! 01-10-2008 06:04 AM

If so, there are a lot of Mudokons who weren't be saved by Abe? Will he save them in the future?

Wil 01-10-2008 06:13 AM

Yes.

abe is now! 01-10-2008 01:08 PM

Question: Oddworld is big, but not all continents are known. Are there Mudokons in other continents? And Glukkons? And Sligs? And if not, how many creatures live on Oddworld?

Slaveless 01-10-2008 01:53 PM

There is simply not a number for that kind of thing.

Bullet Magnet 01-10-2008 07:10 PM

Yeah, that information is so totally available to us.

Xavier 01-10-2008 09:26 PM

BM is right, how do you think we are supposed to know that?

abe is now! 01-11-2008 06:42 AM

Ok, thank you. I sometimes ask things that nobody knows. Excuse me for this.
I have a new question: when did Greeters become insane and begin killing customers? So, were they created just to sell Magog Cartel's products?

Wil 01-11-2008 07:13 AM

Greeters were designed to be both vending machines and security guards. Deployed in factories, they have scanners that can tell the difference between official employees and trespassers. They distribute SoulStorm Brew to emloyees and electrocute the intruders. The trouble is they never worked properly, and they just electrocuted every Mudokon that moved.

abe is now! 01-11-2008 08:10 AM

And why do they use Sligs's words?

mudling 01-11-2008 09:29 AM

Abe is now! probebly becuase they passed sligs so frequently that they learnt and used their speech, or the gluckons programed them to do so, as a kind of a replacement for greeter sligs, they got robots that did the same thing, and sounded the same.
I'm just guessing, I haven't played AE.

abe is now! 01-11-2008 11:20 AM

Question: in the artbook I saw some sketches of Fleeches that have two mouths in two parts of their body. So, were Fleeches originally designed to have two mouths?

Xavier 01-11-2008 12:02 PM

They still do have 2 mouths in the final version of the game :p

abe is now! 01-11-2008 12:18 PM

What? Why doesn't the second muth eat Abe, and the Fleech must turn around and eat Abe? Is that mouth sleeping or meek?

Slaveless 01-11-2008 12:22 PM

It simply isn't used at the time since it is not close to their prey.

EDIT: It is also possible that Fleeches don't have two tounges, and simply one. Besides, if one mouth gets the animal first, it might be awkward when it comes down to digestion if one tounge is still out of the mouth. Plus, they need to be able to have both sides of their body be able to move at any moment's notice, since some creatures like Mudokons (or Mudombies) would most likely get out of reach pretty soon. Anyway, probably hard to program anyway.

And mudling, Glukkons have never been mentioned to be the major species.

mudling 01-11-2008 01:27 PM

Oh ok, thanks, but that brings up a few more questions
So what speacies have been mentioned to be major speacies? What does major speacies actually mean in terms of OW?
And just becuase they're not mentioned, just mean they're not part of it
Where was the term "major speacies" ever mentioned in terms of OW anyway?

Slaveless 01-11-2008 02:06 PM

Major species has never been mentioned, but on the back of the AE manuel, there was a mention about the most important creatures on Oddworld.

Wil 01-11-2008 03:03 PM

Don’t take that too literally. Khanzumerz are important because without there would be no consumer culture. No consumer culture, and all those consumer goods the Glukkons, Vykkers, Oktigi, and other industrial families produce suddenly aren’t worth a whole load. In terms of Mudos, Glukkons are big players, but they’re not the richest organization. That’s the Oktigi. In terms of Oddworld, Mudos is just a small country that happens to be typical of the problems found on the planet. Different societies on different parts of Oddworld would seem as alien to each other as, let’s say, a trustworthy president would be to us.

Bullet Magnet 01-11-2008 03:12 PM

It's remarkable to see so many sapient species on one planet. Though it seems that few of them ever rise above their circumstance, leading to each species being extremely socially niched.

abe is now! 01-12-2008 01:04 AM

I read Maggie is the boss of Magog Cartel. Maggie is Octigi's, Gloktigi's and Glukkon's mother. So, they are all bound up to her and they are a very big family. And we know this. It's possible Kanzumers are the bosses of the bosses, and they control Maggie and all the Octigi family. But we don't see it in the games. It's possible Kanzumers are controlled by others superior species too.

mudling 01-12-2008 01:55 AM

Just wondering, what exactly did it say on the back of the AE manual, I've never played the game myself.

Slaveless 01-12-2008 06:34 AM

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I read Maggie is the boss of Magog Cartel. Maggie is Octigi's, Gloktigi's and Glukkon's mother. So, they are all bound up to her and they are a very big family. And we know this. It's possible Kanzumers are the bosses of the bosses, and they control Maggie and all the Octigi family. But we don't see it in the games. It's possible Kanzumers are controlled by others superior species too.

Not true at all. Maggie is the supposily the 'boss' of the Magog Cartel, and is the Glukkon queen. But she is NOT the mother of the ENTIRE Octigi family. You can't have Ogtici if you aren't even from that species. Maggie is a queen of Glukkons, not Oktigi. Gloktigi, maybe, but I think they are the result of Vykkers with too much Glukkon and Oktigi DNA on their hands. Family refers to how species are related, not strictly in the family as in mother, father, son, daughter, etc.

Khanzumers don't control the Magog Cartel. However, the Glukkons are dependent on the profits made from the products being bought from the Khanzumerz. Other than that, the Magog Cartel controls themselves.

Bullet Magnet 01-12-2008 06:53 AM

Khanzumerz are just that: consumers. Whether or not they are a species or just the way Industrialists say "consumer" is another matter. I always thought it was nothing more than a joke by OWI. They said that consumers are the most important creatures on Oddworld (from the industrialist perspective) and then spelled it in that Oddworld style and made it sound as if they are a new species. Which may be exactly how the industrialists treat them.

Without the Khanzumerz, there would be no cause for the destructive of Oddworld's wilderness, which is why they're supposed to be the only evil creatures on Odworld, whether they mean it or not: almost every moment of their day is spent supporting the exploitation of Oddworld's resources by the most banal of decisions (such as the brand of shampoo brightener they choose to buy). This is a very accurate and poignant commentary on the real world.

abe is now! 01-12-2008 08:47 AM

But is there any pic of Kanzumers? We never saw any!!!

Wil 01-12-2008 10:00 AM

You are perfectly correct, we never saw any. And we won’t until Abe gets closer to the big cities and the heart of consumerism, which won’t be until the end of the Quintology.

mudling 01-12-2008 10:48 AM

Ok, thanks, things seem alot clearer now.
Ok, just wondering, so Ocktigi is the family, and from that there are luckons, wait does that make Seckto and his mechanical pet things (Wait, aren't they called Ocktigi, now I'm realy confused)
On the subject of that, what were seckto's pets things, I'm assuming they're closer releated to Gluckons than seckto, and I've seen them in the art book, but those things were more mechnical than alive, or they seemed so, and they didn't seem to be intelligent, but I always thought they were before SW.
Sorry about my confusion, haven't played any OW games in a long time.

abe is now! 01-13-2008 05:35 AM

New argument. Mudombies are Mudokons's spirits. They are the spirits that Abe freed when he went in Mudomo and Mudanchee Vaults. And in Necrum. But in the artbook, we can see a sort of zombie with a Mudokon body. And we don't see it in the game. So, have Mudombies been originally designed to have a body? A dead and putrescent body I mean.

Hobo 01-13-2008 05:37 AM

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I am impressed oh master of English