I've just found out why people keep calling foetuses babies. They're talking in American...

Fetuses
 

Fetuses are unborn babies, you know.

Did you know that if you abourt a fetus at an early enough stage, you can use the tissue to mend bones, heal sicknesses, and even cure cancer!!!

Nope, they are taking in European. Fetuses are babies. Research.

Re: Fetuses
 

Not according to dictionary.com, an American dictionary...
Edit: I think I misread that. You are saying a 'fetus' is a baby before it's been born. That suggests you think it is still a baby when it's a 'fetus'... Right?

In English:
Baby
- Young child. I.e. before they can walk.

Foetus
- From 8 weeks (I think) after conception to birth.

Embryo
- Until 8 weeks after conception.


Dictionary.com cites 'fetus' as a synonym of 'baby.'

They certainly seem to be in America.

Seriously? Why didn't they give that recently to the people who are dying of cancer now? But exactly what kind of cancer?

You can use tissue from adults to do that. It's more durable.

There has to be alot of fetal tissue to actually cure it. If theres not enogh you can encase it for a few weeks or until you get enough fetal tissue.

But unfortunatly, alot of hospitals don't have enough, even for the encasing.

1. I think he or she (?) is talking about stem cells found in foeuses (or embryos?). They haven't managed to cure cancer with it yet. That's mainly because too many governments have banned human stem cell research (bastards).
I recently saw something where a rat's spine had some fluid leaked and they used stem cells to restore full movement to the rat's hind legs (which is what was parylised by the fluid draining). It has great potential.

2. There have been stem cells found in adults but I'm not sure of the quality and quantity compared to those found in foetuses.

You come off as immensly simple and your words just annoy me...really...they do. How many times do i have to repeat myself before you actually get my point!!

(1) - It is if your not thinking about people around you.

(2) - If your not financially stable and you have a child for your own reason to feel "Loved" whatever then that is selfishness, you have basically f*cked up everyone else in the process of finding your own "Happiness".

(3) - If you dont think of others when you do something like have a baby or not have a baby.

(1) - Pinky, i never said sex IS fun. I said it can be used for fun.

(2) - Dont pity me. Your gonna have to be with somebody who believes in what you believe because a guy will not hang around for long with your attitude of;
"No, we cannot have sex. Yo. Because i dont want kids. Yo. And sex is only for breeding. Yo. Now lets go read the bible...Yo-Yo."

(3) - What is it with you!? IF YOU HAVE SEX WITH PRO-TEC-TION THEN THE LIKELYHOOD OF YOU GETTING PREGNANT IS MADE LOWER. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEX WITH PRECAUTIONS DOESN'T MEAN YOUR GOING TO GET PREGNANT INSTANTLY...IDIOT.

(4) - Then you get an abortion or give it away. Were in 20 yrs time your child comes looking for you saying "Why didnt you want me!?"

(5) - And you do?

(6) - Pinky, if you knew me you would have a hard time convincing me of convincible things. Blieve me.

(7) - I AM NOT. GOD, YOU ARE SO ANNOYING. WERE DID I SAY THAT THE WORLD IS INNOCENT!?

(8) - I am gettiing dragged closer and closer to the edge by your constant ramblings.

(9) - Like you. You dont care that one way is reasonable and YOUR way is not.

(10) - WHO CARES!? I DONT!!

(11) - Yes, yes you are.

(12) - If everyone thought like you people wouldn't drive in fear of crashing. But they wear seatbelts and take PRECAUTIONS when they do something that could have consequences. Oh, and Pinky. You do realise there are alot of legal issues with the alternatives that you mentioned.

Sex is something fun for adults to do. It also allows them to bond and get to know each other better. Sex IS FUN!!

Ok, in this paragraph not only did you patronise me but you blabbered about 13 year olds stripping. Why!?

(1) - I never said it meant that. Thats something you brought up yourself which means that on a subconcious level your thinking that.

(2) - No i am not. Im going to live in good, immoral life with immensly good sex.

(3) - No man (Unless he is of the same religion as you) will wait 3 years for sex.

(4) - No, i said sex doesn't have to be about breeding all the time. It can be about fun.

(5) - Naive? Ok, if you say so.

(6) - The last person who attempted to take advantage of me left the school. Literally.

It tells me you aunt is down to Earth. Unlike you and your parents.

Pinky, i am pro-choice mainly because its the parents choice. The parent will have their life destroyed by a un-wanted child. Pinky, i bet you were unwanted...it wouldn't surprise me really. And i personally think that no other person should interfere in a persons private life. If they want a child, they wont have an abortion (Unless forced) and visa versa. Its a shame that tossers like you are making the 'parents' feel guilty by saying what you do. Its nasty and cruel. Feel free to share your opinions but dont make people feel like shit when you do so...You Pro-lifers are bastards...really, you are. I have seen spokespeople for your side. And they are nasty, naive and wankers. They go on about the parents not being properly prepared...thats just out of order, you cant go around saying that to traumatised Abortee's.

Also, Pinky. Ask, at least, 5 people if they have recreational sex. Ask a range of people, not just your parents or your religious cult peeps.

I am sickened by the lot of you pro-lifers actually. You are very malicious people.

1- yeah you did

2-That didn't even make any lick of sense.

3- Sure




1- Yeah you did, your still saying it as being fun.

2- No female would dare marry you. You don't even know what it takes to be a man, so how can you tell me about relationships? Your relationship won't last. The only ladies you will attract are used up prostitutes because you have a sick mind, a bad attitute, and your not intelligent and just plain ugly in the inside and immature. "honey, I don't want kids, let's abort them and by the way my boyfriend is in the closet, I had sex with him today because sex is fun oh and I also slept with your sister, is that okay, honey me being a perve and all?"

3- Idiot, idiot, idiot! Your an idiot! CONDOMS CAN BREAK YOU MORON! Some of them have little holes in them which is possible that sperm can seep through.

4- THEN TELL THEM YOU IDIOT! TELL THEM THAT YOU LOVED THEM SO MUCH, YOU DID NOT WANT TO GET AN ABORTION JUST TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE IN LIFE.

5- Wow, nice combat, Did that take you all night to think of that?

6- And you know me?

7- You are too! Your annoying and prideful. Let it go!

8- Look whos talking, your saying the same dumb crap over and over again. It's irrelevent and dumb.

9- HA! *rolls on the floor and laughs* too easy.

10- Of course you do.

11- Then your naive and simple. :D

12- Wow, I'm worried.





Um, adults can get diseases and sometimes they are not financially stable also. You tell the 15 million tens having sex. I mean, your not an adult and you cinsider it fun.



To get it through that sick mind of yours.




1. You did you liar.

2. Sure, with a disease

3. Your ignorant. Their some people who are atheist, want to wait until they are married in order to have sex. They have morals unlike you.

4. Yes you did! See, you don't even know what you said.

5. You are follwed by ignorance and idiotic.

6- Yeah right, they probably were annoyed by you! i wish you were up in the city.





It tells me you aunt is down to Earth. Unlike you and your parents.

Don't you talk about my parents you asshole. They are better than your low-life excuse for raising a low-life like you parents! Your not down to earth, your the toliet paper which to wipe someone's ass with.

Pinky, i am pro-choice mainly because its the parents choice. The parent will have their life destroyed by a un-wanted child.

Pinky, i bet you were unwanted...it wouldn't surprise me really.

I was not unwanted, I bet you were because you want to kill a child's life so you want to take your anger out on other people and encourage them to kill the baby. That's want an unwanted person would say and do. Like you!


And i personally think that no other person should interfere in a persons private life. If they want a child, they wont have an abortion (Unless forced) and visa versa. Its a shame that tossers like you are making the 'parents' feel guilty by saying what you do. Its nasty and cruel.

It's not nasty and cruel. They are the ones who did the deed so they gotta take responsibility. It's their fault not the child's. Your the type of person Jacob who has an excuse for everything and ever takes responsibility. Wow, how mature. It's going to take a long time before you grow up and open your eyes. It's selfish.



Feel free to share your opinions but dont make people feel like shit when you do so...You Pro-lifers are bastards...really, you are. I have seen spokespeople for your side. And they are nasty, naive and wankers. They go on about the parents not being properly prepared...thats just out of order, you cant go around saying that to traumatised Abortee's.

Whatever Jacob, you don't listen. Did you just read what Intern said? You DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. *raspberries* so there. Your annoying and messed up. I'm not the only one here on this who feels this way. Talk to other people who feel about it Your just gullable and naive. You seriously have some issues. Your the one who is offensive about this topic. We can share whatever we want. We are trying to tell you the real deal Jacob, you always sugar coat everything. We are sharing our opinions! Just keep your mouth shut and quit starting these dumb arguments! WE don't have to agree with you and we won't, not by the way your acting towards the people who are against abortions

{Also, Pinky. Ask, at least, 5 people if they have recreational sex. Ask a range of people, not just your parents or your religious cult peeps.}

[B]I don't ask just my parents you loser, alot of people don't have sex at all and I'm not related to them. What, do you live in a world full of sluts? Don't just ask your prostitute friendsB]



I am sickened by the lot of you pro-lifers actually. You are very malicious people.

Why are you sickened? We should be the one sickened by you! Your the one being a perve and enjoying the fact of killing innocent children. You make me sick. This is how we feel about abortion, learn to except people's opinions like Disgruntled said, do you ever learn or listen? I guess not. Your the one who is malicious! We have sympathy for the those kids who will never see the green grass or experience life!

You know what, why are you mad Jacob? I'm actually laughing at your anger. The more anger you get, the more I laugh because you are getting so upset over some people's opinions? Puhlease. Your the one who started arguing with people. No one was arguing and everything was fine until you came into this topic.

Oh, I've head about those stem cells. I've read from an article that their using stem cells to try to cure some brain disorders. I can try to find the article on that.

*Twitches*
O-D-F-L-o-S...!! I have never met anybody like you. Your on about excepting peoples opinions (When personally i think you mean 'Respecting' peoples opinions.) and then you call my friends sluts. You call my family shit (Which i laughed and applauded by the way, cos they're the same as your family.) But calling my friends, i mean, Pinky. How rude. I feel pent up frustration about something, is this true? Have your parents hid the cross shaped {Enter sexual appliance here}? You amuse me and frustrate me, its a shame. You obviously believe what you say. Danny was correct and the majority of debaters have backed off knowing your not worth it...but im a sap for debates. Plus, your making me feel a helluva lot better.
Allow me to explain a few things.
The Pill, Condoms and other contraceptives;
Now, tell me Pinky. Why do people use these? I am guessing that if they want children they wouldn't...So...whats the point? I believe the answer is for RECREATIONAL SEX. So, little girl, why would the government make items that would encourage 'Sluts' to be on the prowl? Hmmmm?
My personal views;
I believe that a mother and father should decide whether or not they want to go through pregnancy. They should do this without a bunch of tossers telling them they are;
*Immoral
*Selfish
*Sluts
Because that is malicious, nasty and evil. They have gone through enough without that being thrown at them.
Your personal views;
Now, i do respect peoples opposing views. But what you said i found out of order. You cant go around saying that all people who get abortions are selfish and sluts who should know better. Think of the people on the forums, they/their parents may have been forced to have an abortion. Its not nice when your saying that, feel free to state why you dont agree with abortions but dont call people names.
Wake up;
You are forever telling me im naive. Ahem, what about you. I believe that you said if your son/daughter came back (You put them up for adoption) and you told them "I loved you, so i gave you a better life...!!" that wont work. They will be pissed. And what if they went to a home were they got sexually abused? Physically abused? Mentally tortured? I would rather have my child die then be raped by a depraved old man.
My future life and your views;
Pinky, just because you dont want to reach orgasm (There's a thought, why did God give women the G-Spot if they were basically baby machines!?) dont go slagging me down and saying no woman would dare go near me. Although i have not had a girlfriend for 3 years, that is, literally, my choice. I have tonnes of girls who are my friends who say that im a great catch. In some lessons i would discuss certain things with them that made them state i would be amazing in bed. And sure, you may call them sluts and go all out on the insults but Pinky, they are living. Living carefully at that. Your just a f*cked up little holy girl who's parents have fed her so much shit throughout her life she cant tell who's speaking from their arse *Cough-Your parents-Cough* and who's telling the truth.
My Parents/Family;
Pinky, my family are like yours. They didn't teach me immoral ways, they attempted to make me "Holy" and Catholic. If it wasn't for me being wise i would have taken your route. You can call them "Shit" but that means your calling your own cos they are the exact double of yours in their views. People who think like you lot think should be neutered. You dont deserve to have kids because you make the world the shit it is.
My personal life;
Pinky, i was actually a accident. A Bastard accident at that. My Dad left my mum before i was born and ignored me whenever we crossed paths. If you had the same experience as moi then you might realise the world your living in is the "Cuk-coo" land. Why do you think so many people laugh at Christians? Nobody respects your views...you lot are laughable.
My personal life #2;
You say i am immature? And it will take a long time before i open my eyes? Pinky, i've been VERY aware of the real world for a long time. I've had to, around 25% of the stuff i have learned i taught myself. 10% was schooling and the remainder was my family. My familys views are old and out of date so i have to re-teach myself about the world. I am very aware, unlike you.
My personal views;
I do not enjoy the prospect of taking a creatures life (Unless i loathe them with a burning passion.) but to me whats the point in having a unwanted baby which will grow up with the atmosphere of "You wreaked my life." and then come psychologically disturbed. Sure, you can put it up for adoption but what if it goes to a bad home? Give it to relatives, it will see you and believe that it is unwanted. There are backlashes to everything Pinky. Abortion may carry the stress and regret but in the long run its better. And besides, do you really want them to experience the shitness of the world? If they are beings then they are getting the better deal, they go to Heaven instantly. We dont, we have to stay on this rock of shite.

A side Question for Pinky;
Now Pinky, what do you think of the Death penalty? Do you think that if a Paedophile commits a unsavory act he should be put to death?

(Its obvious i love these controversial debates isn't it!?)

You know what, this is getting ridiculous, I'm not going to argue with you anymore. This is stupid. Obvious no one cares about your views Jacob, we just laugh at you really hard because you are nothing but a joke. Your arguing over nothing. Why don't you get something else better yet to do besides bickering? Are you that lonely in your life? You have no friends to hang out with? Your only making a fool of yourself and no one is agreeing with you besides Dan. Their are people here who are against abortion, not just me. You judge and stereotype people all the time. You said to feel free to voice our opinions? Well, we can't without you bickering over stupid pointless things. Why do people laugh at naive people like you? Why do people laugh at catholics. So many resons. You need to grow up. I thought you were mature Jacob. I have never met anyone like you. It's sad.

Are we losing little girl? Is the poor little religious girl losing? She cant stick up for her parents twisted, probing views? Awwww, poor little baby.

Thats immature. You obviously cant hack that i am determined and i am proving my point. You are giving up. Its a shame, but i laugh and cheer all the same. You went off topic because you cant fight back, you always do that. If somebody starts to prove you wrong you will go "Blah-BLAH-BLAAAAH...YOUR IMMATURE...YOU CANT SEE THE OBVIOUS...BLAAAAHHHH. Yo." Thats sad Pinky, thats very sad. And i hope you get spaid before you have chance to reproduce...we dont need old fashioned, pathetic, religious arseholes like you around. Unless we need a good laugh.

Forget About It
 

This quote makes it very clear why it is pointless to argue with someone like Jacob. He is obviously a very closed-minded and arrogant person. He shuts his mind off to other people's opinions and values only his own. General comments like these make someone a bigot. It's a shame that Jacob condemns bigotry but is a bigot himself.
It's obvious also that Jacob believes that Christian views are foolish so that means he is also a bigot in the religous sense. I don't like to say things like this but I have to say I am both shocked and insulted by the things that Jacob has said. I also think that Jacob has sunk to the level that he accuses Pinky of sinking to. For example:
Some people actually do respect the views of Christians, just not Jacob. This is just more mindless bigotry. Calling an entire religion of people foolish is just as bad as racism. Jacob, did you know that Christianity is the most practiced religion in the entire world? Pro-life Christians are the ones that are following what the Bible teaches. After all, isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill?" It also doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill babies or infants or full grown people." It says only, "Thou shalt not kill." Doesn't that mean that you shouldn't kill anyone or anything? Oh, wait, I forgot...Jacob doesn't care about that.

Re: Forget About It
 

1. Some certainly are. I don't mind Christians who interpret the Bible how they like but people who take the whole Bible as the literal truth are just annoyingly ridiculous.

2. But really, religion is a stupid concept. Somebody make 'teachings' or rules then gullable people follow them whether or not they agree with them.

3. Doesn't make it any better or respectable than any other religion.

I had this really long good comback but then my comp crashed, so hear it is in brief.

I am not closed minded. I am open minded. I except her beliefs but i dont except her calling people "Sluts".

Religion is basically another for of discrimination & prejudice.

You can say whatever you want Intern but until you have experienced the traumaticness of deciding of having a baby and letting your financial income go down or aborting it to give another child a better life dont bother talking. You dont know nothing about any of the points of views so whats the point in saying all that?

Point
 

My point in saying that is that I was quite insulted at your blatant disrespect for me and my beliefs. Do you really think that I'm a laughable person just because I'm a Christian? If you do, then this argument is over and you can go be with you bigot self. If that's not how you feel, why did you say that in your post? And what makes you think that you are such a philosophical genius that you can criticize the very concept of religion? That is just plain arrogance. I'm a Christian but I don't hate or discriminate against people of other religions. I accept their beliefs, although I don't agree with them. So your comments are obviously untrue because they don't apply to everyone. Your comments are bitter, general, shocking, unfounded, uncalled for and totally insulting. Maybe you should rethink the way you talk to people. Not like you'll take my advice, anyway. Forget it. I'm done with you.

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(1)My point in saying that is that I was quite insulted at your blatant disrespect for me and my beliefs.(2) Do you really think that I'm a laughable person just because I'm a Christian?(3) If you do, then this argument is over and you can go be with you bigot self.(4) If that's not how you feel, why did you say that in your post?(5) And what makes you think that you are such a philosophical genius that (6)you can criticize the very concept of religion? That is just plain arrogance.(7) I'm a Christian but I don't hate or discriminate against people of other religions. I accept their beliefs, although I don't agree with them. So your comments are obviously untrue because they don't apply to everyone. Your comments are bitter, general, shocking, unfounded,(8) uncalled for and totally insulting. Maybe you should rethink the way you talk to people.(9) Not like you'll take my advice, anyway. Forget it. I'm done with you.

(1) - I dont disrespect you, Hell, i dont even know you. I dont disrespect your beliefs. I disrespect Pinky calling people who have recreational sex "Sluts" and telling me to "Wise-up". I also think your beliefs are unreasonable.

(2) - If you believe in EVERYTHING the Bible spews out, then yes.

(3) - Okily-Dokily.

(4) - Because its true. I dont feel like that, however, many people do.

(5) - Erm...i dont.

(6) - I dont critisize the very concept of it. I critisize the parts that are unreasonable and the parts that put others down.

(7) - Your a Christian? Really? Rrrrrrrrrrrreally? Wow, that is such a big surprise. Its not about other religions, its about people. And how they are percieved because of religions.

(8) - Oh yes, my comments are uncalled for. I have Pinky calling most of my friends Sluts. And saying that sex is for breeding purposes only. I bet even yourself dont believe in that.

(9) - Of course i wont take your advice. Your Christian. (Thats a joke)

Ahem
 

All right. I've calmed down a little. It's not right for Pinky to call anybody a "slut" but I never said that. Secondly, the Bible acknowledges sex as a recreational activity. As a matter of fact, an entire book in the Bible is written completely about sex and how it is meant to be enjoyed. See? Me being a Christian is not a joke.

Re: Ahem
 

A Christian walkes into a bar. 'Ouch!'

Sorry...

The alternate version:

A Christian walks into a bar and a homosexual says 'Hi, can I get you a drink.' The Christian beats the man to death and then calls the police because 'the ****ing fag sexually harrased me!'

Not sorry... :P

That's Horrible
 

That's disgusting. How can you live with yourself? I'm not joking or trying to make fun of you, but have you considered therapy?

Re: That's Horrible
 

Hehe. It's moments like this when I think that OF quotes thing would have been really good.

Anyway. Me? What is wrong with you? I just told an adaptation of an old joke. And then I told a really silly and highly adapted version of an old joke. I personally like my BrassEye emulation in the 'bisexual' thread. Much more amusing, methinks...

Gluk you could have made a whole new genre of jokes. Quite like the Englishman, Irishman, Scotsman. You could have the Homosexual and the Christian. O-M-G, WOW!!

Hehe. Somebody liked my joke! Unlike that fuddy-duddy Intern_485...

Fuddy-Duddy...heheheheheh.

The Homosexual and the Fuddy-Duddy Christian...

Re: Re: Ahem
 

Don't listen to them Intern, they are just ignorant and arrogant. Jacob really. He's just mad because you told the truth about him and I agree.

YES!! PLEASE DO!!

No not all Gays, thats just me.

Yeah, and not all christians do that. Sometimes people who are non-christian, it's against their culture to be gay and kill that gay person.

Yeh, i know. I haven't denied that...

alright then.

Also, I love your sig! Your that lonely and bored? Are you that hurt!? That's pitiful. Pathetic. *tisk* *tisk* You take things so personal. Proves how your level of handling battles are. Maybe I should change my sig to quote on one of your ignorant comments. But I won't stoop to your low level. You know you could get banned for that nonsense? i don't want to. Also, it's a lie because I never said that people who do recreational sex are sluts. :dodgy: :rolleyes:

O-M-D-L!! You edited out the parts were you called people who had recreational sex sluts. I new this would happen. Intern said that he didn't have a prob with stuff like that and then you come bounding along, editing your posts were you disagree with him. You are immensly immature and very dispicable.

(However, if you did it as a joke it was vaguely amusing. You little Monkey.)

(1) - Thanx. I love your...your...ermmm...

(2) - No, i have my Slutty friends who have recreational sex to keep me company.

(3) - Yes. That Priest last night, he sure knew how to party.

(4) - Isn't it just.

(5) - Yeh...?

(6) - Lol, i dont think you can put the 'Tisking' Crown on just yet.

(7) - Dont believe i do. If i did, i would have been dead by the time i was 9.

(8) - Yup. I make fun of things, it peeves off the opposition so much. Heheheheheh.

(9) - Yes, but would it be as funny?

(10) - To my low, reasonable level dont you mean?

(11) - No, i didn't. And i dont believe you. Its not slander, you did say that in your own way.

Fine, be an idiot. Intern was making fun of you don't deny it. Get banned, It's not slander but it's a defensive action. This proves how lonely you are with no friends who care about you. I never said that sluts had recreational sluts you liar. So shut-up and leave me alone. I have other things to do then argue with an ignorant, arrogant person like you.

1. Who can say 'OF quotes book'?

2. Ah, the memories of Worms come flooding back after hearing that...

3. Well do those these other things then. Before you say anything, I don't really have anything better to do that I'm not too lazy to do.

I'd like to think that people can present their ideas in a reasonable, polite manner and respond to each other in an equally civil tone. I'm surprised at some members, who seem to think that because they've been here for a long time they are exempt from the rules. If this happens again, I wont hesitate on placing a ban on even the most seasoned member.

If anyone would like to discuss this with me, feel free to send me a private message.

*Topic closed*