But why not, Alex? It should have been finished at least six months ago. It should have also been objectively perfect to everyone on the forums. No excuses mate, c'mon.

Contrary to whatever alternate reality you conjured up, the whole point of this is that we don't expect it to be out soon. It's just not going to happen. We just want some more updates, some more ARG goodness, and maybe an actual look into that three second clip that was the OddWorld equivalent of Viagra for most of us. Silence is not fun, and if it can't be helped, then so be it, but it's also very concerning given OWI's track record, and you, me and everyone else knows this too.

I don't know who you're actually talking to in particular (be useful if you quoted) but there's no need for concern here. Soulstorm's coming.

I think he's referring to the fact that OWI pretty much up until the announcement of NnT, had broken countless promises and cancelled a lot of titles. I mentioned this before but tbh I don't have this concern at all, I'm actually hyped.
Keep sucking their dicks STM, we all know that when fans do that nothing but great products get released.

Is it really concerning when we can see that things are progressing?

I'm curious; can you please explain what's the purpose of showing of the game at this stage, if not for PR?

For customer feedback I assume, Xavier would seem like a good choice if you ask me as the guys been on the forums since 2001 and was fairly open about being at E3 and wanting to find the OWI crew, so the guys clearly a big fan.

We just need to be glad that one of us got in and im taking Xavs reaction as a good sign as he pretty much knows how critical we can all be, and from his reaction I am hopeful.

But I have a question for you Xav, if you weren't pleased with what you saw, would you have shared your concerns with us? Even if you couldn't say much and kept close to the NDA?

Or is giving negative feedback (even if it was as vague as your original post) considered an act against the NDA and harmful to the product?

And let's say for arguments sake, OWI staff gave it the go ahead to post your concerns because I'm sure you guys must have talked and bounced feedback off one another before the post itself.

Either way, judging by your reaction I'm super thrilled for what's to come.

The NDA doesn't say "please only say nice things", it says "don't say anything about the game at all."

Xavier had plenty of feedback, most of which he and I discussed at length. :)

Can't wait to see and play Soulstorm. It's going to be more of a scary game like we never seen before!

Strange question. Why wouldn't he be pleased? Sorry for stating the obvious but Xavier isn't known for being particularly critical of Oddworld.

The fact I asked OWI if I could share my impressions with the community is because I was super excited about what I saw. To be honest I'm not sure I would have wanted to share my concerns with you guys if I didn't like what I saw. It would most likely only have spawn non-constructive negativity.

You have no idea what Alex had to put up with. :p

Sounds like you both had a very sexy time ;)

Totally understandable. Yeah it probably would have spiralled into negative discussions, but I'd be happy to discuss something constructive. I keep putting my mind back to when NnT was announced and shown off and how we all put in our feedback rapidly. I guess we are not at that stage yet given what we have so far, but I am keen to start more discussions on what's to come :D

lol he has the patience of a saint I'm sure :)

They showed it to a single fan, and that was stated as an an exception rather than the rule. I assume they're showing it to industry and media types, but I don't know why.

My guess would be for industry feedback, to discuss agreements with various media outlets, and to secure financing?

Maybe technical feedback too? I'd imagine if they discussed the game privately they'd share feedback on methods of development from different angles. Perhaps marketing techniques too?

Frima Studio, currently under reorganization, has been downsized. OWI might be searching for another studio.

What for? Distribution?

They might have to go back to JAW if they can't find another studio.

You know, "Fat Kraken Studios" could be renamed "JAW2" given the fact that all four of them are former JAW employees.

Yeah, they said they had 2 internal Oddworld teams: one in UK and one in the U.S.

this thread.

hey man we just thirsty is all lol. We wanna talk about the game but we've covered a lot of the main bases. (unless we've missed stuff from the ARG...?)

anything new showing up soon in the pipeline? :)

Damn, Xavier just wanted to let you guys know "Hey the games not a total flop, get excited!" and some of you get pissy about it being a massive cock tease.

Seriously. Games take time to make and polish and sometimes its nice to get an outsider who is a part of the community to give you their opinion on it before its ready to show and see what they think.

Also stop asking about the game, they're not going to tell you anything.
They didnt make Xavier sign an NDA for nothing.

Yeah well you can either choose to get excited and try to keep your own hype train rolling, and try not to be disappointed ( And fail) when it inevitably implodes on itself because there's what amounts to almost nothing in terms of fuel for said train, or you forget about it yourself, just accept there's not shit right now, and you can try to see what's going on and why there's almost nothing so far, and at least get a little confirmation that there may indeed be updates soon. It's just really fucking irritating when those two mix, and even though it's nice to hear it from Xav, I personally think a lot of us would be better off just getting things straight from the horses mouth, even if it takes fucking forever, at least it's better than having Abe's balls dangled in front of us and being smacked with reality and a sign that says no touching.

I bet it's pretty funny watching a load of people make a shitload of wrong guesses

You know, if you'd answered my question we'd have had something to talk about. :p

OH SHIT DRAMA

which question?

He hasn't flipped his shit yet, so I would assume so :p

This question I believe:

I already did, in a large reply a few pages back, I think. Obviously I can't go into detail, but as I said - this is entirely common, and naturally we get different things back depending on who we show it too.

In the context of this thread, I wanted Xavier to see it because I value his opinion on all things Oddworld very much. It's not just the core /game/, it's the systems, mechanics, lore, materials etc. Soulstorm's a new game, and we wanted to see if one of Oddworld's biggest fans was liking what we were doing.

He also wanted to meet and spend time with LL, of course, so it all worked out nicely.

Part of the job.

Now I'm super curious as to what "shit" Alex has to put up with all the time other than us lot.

If you're referring to what I said, that's not what I said.

Man all is quiet still no pic 5?

*waiting*
https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...20130515050459

Soon.