I'm from Saudi Arabia.

Asians.

I feel empty without Slog Bait and Scrabaniac.

Your obsession with Slog is really quite strange.

I don't care about his body.

Slog Bait would rather not interact with you at this present moment.

Nepsotic already made the point I was planning on making, but it was buried in the middle of a longer post. I'm going to reiterate it to really bring it to Havoc's attention.

Literally everything you put in your mouth is toxic. Even that wonderful pure H₂O you love so much. Everything depends on doses. So just saying that Flouride is toxic and therefore it's bad is a ridiculous argument to make.


Does it settle at the bottom? Is there residue? Because to me that looks like air bubbles rather than pollution. That makes extra sense given you said it varies based on what floor you're on.

I'm gonna turn that around. Just because "everything is toxic in some quantity" doesn't mean it should be fine to just add dangerous chemicals to the water supply. And this isn't a case of "oh you'd have to drink a gazillion liters of water to get a lethal dose". No, it doesn't take all that much and in combination with other fluoride sources one might ingest, a lethal dose isn't entirely unfeasible.

But that wasn't even my core point. My point was that the government should not be the one deciding to purposefully add some chemical to the water supply for no other reason than "yeah but it's good for your teeth!". That's ridiculous and especially ironic in the US where you normally can't even see a doctor unless you have enough credit.

The reasoning to add this stuff to the water is based on some 80 year old discovery about fluoride being good for your teeth. And like many other things in the US, while the world moved on, the US clings to its old ways of doing things like a bad case of OCD.

As for chlorine, that stuff is specifically put in there to KILL stuff. And while it may not kill you, it's definitely not good for you either. And if the water comes from a natural and flowing source like a river, the water is already clean enough that simple UV light and ozone gas will disinfect it perfectly fine.

The biggest reason that the US in particular still cleans their water this way is again, because they're stuck in old ways and simply refuse to update old systems. Water towers on top of buildings, for example, are still used today and are some of the worst sources of bacterial contamination. They could easily be replaced by a pressure pump at the base of the building and eliminate the tower completely. Water pipes that haven't been replaced in 50 years is another good reason for chlorine. It's a cheap, easy and lazy stop gap solution for a problem that wouldn't exist if the pipe and pump network would be up to modern standards.

Almost every Western country still has fluoride and chlorine in their water. Just bcause your one has changed its policies doesn't give you the ability to say that the world has moved on.

Yes, the original papers on fluoride was a long time ago, but you're acting like science rests on its laurels. Five minutes on Google Scholar gave me plenty of recent papers on the positive effect of fluoride on teeth. Also plenty of discussion on its potential side effects and safe levels. As far as I can tell (and obviously this isn't my area of expertise), the expert consensus is that the current levels are safe. Who are you to disagree?

The government is exactly the right organisation to be deciding these things. The government passes laws on all sorts of things related to public health. Are you saying that we should stop all regulations on safe levels of lead in water supply, active ingredient consistency in producing medications, and what you're allowed and not allowed to do while driving on the road?

All right, speaking about brands I have consumed the following:

1. Mount Franklin
Score: 3/5
Owned by Coca-Cola Amatil, Mount Franklin is available in most shops, milkbars, fish and chip stores etc. It tastes like spring water that went through your kitchen tap with a filter.

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M...2e682141c13o0&

2. Aquafina
Score: 4/5
A PepsiCo product I came across during my times in Vietnam, it tastes better than Mount Franklin because it doesn't have the kitchen tap filter after taste Mount Franklin does.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...uafina.svg.png

We obviously don't have any of those in Poland.

Oh Nate, don't you know Havoc is a tinfoil-hat minarchist?

Cool, ad hominems.

I like how one forum member used that phrase once and now it's the go to buzzword for anyone who can't be fucked to construct an actual contribution.

You say it like it's a bad thing

That's a little hypocritical coming from you.

I'm away from home right now so I can't really test how exactly it does disperse, though if I can recall correctly it does seem to sink to the bottom. I don't fully remember.

Saw this news article on Twitter, thought this thread might appreciate it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03...=1458927600299

Why these sorts of critical systems are hooked up directly to the internet I will never understand.

Cyberterrorism?

That would be a reason to NOT hook it up directly to the internet.

The problem here is not it being connected to the internet. The problem is it using very, very old software AND being connected to the internet.

It's older than me!

I've been playing MO (on original Xbox) again: a level is related with fluoride.

Wait... you're saying that Lorne Lanning has bought into a ridiculous conspiracy theory? Say it aint so!

Are you... alright?

Why the first Xbox (fuck you, Microsoft and your naming strategy!) version, in particular?

Because the resolution is lower so you can't see the nightmare as well.

I wasn't sober. On the one hand, it's the real version. On the other, the console still works. I can't say that NnT is darker than MO.

The Level is called "Fluoride tanks".

see Lorne knows what's up, you cattle

Havoc: "Hey this barrel looks like it has some forum topics stuck to the bottom of it!"

Oh... no wait. That's just Hobo.

ZINGGGGGG!

You know it.