Type "subtle" in Google, please.
if you use Bing, don't speak to me again lol

Yep, was definitely there in the original. Without going into too much detail about technicalities, all we did was make it more audible.

Well Bing says, Varrok, nothing because it doesn't have a definition feature.

But subtle suggests there's a more clever or disguised intent. A subtle sound isn't going to be loud, yes, but "quieter" would be a better word. There's nothing about a less audible burping meat saw that's "(especially of a change or distinction) so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyse or describe" or "delicately complex and understated" or "arranged in an ingenious and elaborate way or "making use of clever and indirect methods to achieve something."

I really enjoyed playing New 'N' Tasty, but honestly, even if the little things being discussed are just little things, I think in the future I will definitely return to the original for play throughs. Not to discredit the work of JAW, but it's just so close to my heart. And dat atmosphere.

Absolutely. They're two different games, and I don't plan on abandoning AO in favor of a tasty upgrade. The original is timeless. I'll still get enjoyment out of that game 17 years from now.

I only really return to Exoddus so I may have a similar opinion with Twice the Flavour.

The term "interesting experience" is thrown around a lot these days. Haha. It was a very nice touch to include us, nonetheless.

I just feel for creators as, being one myself, I know how deeply undue criticism can cut into the flesh. Stephen Spielberg says that he might read 20 good reviews of his movies, and be over the moon, then one person mentions a tiny gaff, or seemingly insignificant flaw, and he'll be miserable for weeks. It's really depressing.

I wouldn't want you guys at JAW, Lorne or any of the developers to fall into a state of melancholy because of some overly harsh criticism, which is why I mentioned steering clear of this forum. It's definitely not my solemn wish, but if Oddworld was my child, I know I wouldn't be here.

You're a strange character, my friend.

I prefer unique.

That uniqueness is strange. And that strangeness is uncommon.

Well you can get enjoyment out of both games, both play completely different and the levels on both games are slightly different.

Whoever at JAW designed the level for the Zulag 4 hub, you are absolute dicks! In AO it was already hard enough now you went and made it even more difficult!

Agreed. Those paying attention will notice that the only things we're nitpicking on are in direct relation to the original game, which is what a 17 year old fanbase tends to do. And I'm sure JAW knows that.

Take away all those nitpicks from us and you're left with a game that is just awesome in every way. I don't think they could have made it any more perfect to be honest. NnT is an amazing achievement that JAW should be proud to have in their portfolio.

Exactly! That's what I meant by that, but going back and reading that post, I didn't make that too clear. I'm excited to have the choice of both. I'm sure there will be some times when I'll sit down and feel like playing AO and some times when I'll feel like firing up some New n Tasty!

Man, I really hope they reach their 250k goal soon so they can start work on an Exoddus remake!

This! I'm also assuming it won't take as long to make it either considering that Exoddus was just done on the same engine, as it was already done.
And was it 250k or 500k they needed? Cause if it's 250k, really after about 10,000 copies sold that should be it, right?

To clarify, the goal is 250k copies sold, not $250k.
Apparently, 500k copies sold would fund a brand new game.

Ohh whoops! My mistake. That makes a lot more sense XD

No worries! I wish they could get to work that early, but I'm happy waiting until they have the funding for a proper remake!

Well, they might not have to make many adjustments gameplay-wise, sure, but all that modelling and texturing for the environments might take them significantly longer to do than the still backgrounds that made up a large portion of AE.

Not to mention they're not on any strict deadlines like they were last time, so they have plenty of time to put more effort into it and really make it shine.

They also need time to program new types of slig as well as new creatures and the ability to possess them, especially glukkons. Also changing the whistling to 'work' and 'stop it'.

Guys, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nothing's happening with Exoddus just now and isn't likely to be until New 'n' Tasty sells. As much as Lorne wants to make Exoddus next (if that's what the fans want) there's a long, long way to go before that's a thing.

True, you guys still need to do ports to other platforms and finish Alf's Escape. :p

After that I guess you will go back to work on JAW only products such as Gravity Crash. I remember Stew mentioned that you had quite some projects planned on the side.

Well, it will probably not be an other 10 years before we see an other Oddworld game. Especially if OWI plans some smaller projects on the side.

I demand Exoddus to me remade in 9 months, I mean cmon, you made AE in 9 months!!!!

And put Munch HD on PC.

And to Vita. And bring Stranger to Wii U! We will never be satiated.

Sounds fantastic. But do we trust other developers to port these? JAW's already busy enough porting New n Tasty to the rest of the platforms

Not so sure. I believe Stew once said he regretted letting a third party port Munch Vita which is part of the reason it's taken so long to come out.

Yeah, pretty much. That and all of the other ports.

Well Lorne seems to be very happy with the guys doing the Stranger Mobile port. And in the past he was liking how the third party Stranger PS2 port was coming along. But maybe if Oddworld or JAW gets a lot bigger the idea of third party ports would be more of a consideration - if JAW were tackling a few Oddworld/non-Oddworld projects at a time.

It's really a shame that Microsoft are cunts about their games on demand/arcade titles. Would've been some good exposure to have Munch HD and Stranger HD ports on the 360. Although I don't know how much it would cost to actually do the porting.