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T-nex 11-19-2010 03:30 PM

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Except my brother. He has a spirit dragon.

He's told me many tales about travelling astral plains whilst he's asleep, that's sort of lucid dreaming right?

Well. I'm pretty sure. :p Dunno what else it could be, cos from my chats with him, it didnø't seems like he was insane or anything.
Maybe people like him just want to believe something so much that they even alter their own mind and subconscious to make these things real. Such as a form of self-hypnosis. To him, all this is very real.
It may even be that it's true. But we'll never know will we? Chances are that he just made himself hallucinate or lucid dream :p ... Which can both be obtained through hypnosis(i think).

Wings of Fire 11-19-2010 03:37 PM

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Well. I'm pretty sure. :p Dunno what else it could be, cos from my chats with him, it didnø't seems like he was insane or anything.

hmmm!

T-nex 11-19-2010 03:48 PM

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hmmm!

What????? Is he insane? Did he get diagnosed with something?? :S Dunno, to me he just seemed like a depressed guy who really wanted to believe in magic.

Wings of Fire 11-19-2010 04:03 PM

Well at least he's not an otherkin.

I think.

Nate 11-19-2010 04:24 PM

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At basic levels it's not dangerous; but if you become really good at it other than aquiring some interesting benefices you can come in conctact with other inorganic beings and at this point it become crazy dangerous....

Inorganic beings? You can chat with rocks?

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Google about this is just trash.
Real shamans will never whrite something like this on google... 80% of people are complete idiots after all and they will just end up making fun of our amazing work or misuse it.:p

I can assure you that I'm not an idiot, but I'm still going to make fun of your work. Or at least I would have if OddjobAbe and T-Nex hadn't beaten me to it.

Bullet Magnet 11-19-2010 04:24 PM

If its real, he should be able to prove it to us. I have high standards of evidence, but real things are quite able to meet them. Being real is a significant advantage. I won't accept any handwaving or special pleading as anything besides an admission of abject idiocy and/or barefaced lying. Or insanity.

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Well at least he's not an otherkin.

I think.

Give it a week.

Jordan 11-20-2010 06:03 AM

Don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread, I don't want to read all 3 pages, but I've had this thing called sleep paralysis, which if I'm correct is similar to lucid dreaming. Basically I "woke up" and was lying in bed but I couldn't move at all. My arm was stretched out and so was my hand. My fingers seemed to be being bent backwards and I couldn't stop it. At the same time I heard this screaming noise in my ears. It wasn't a proper dream either, I can't describe it, but I know it was real life. Can't remember how long it lasted, but it wasn't nice and I wouldn't want anyone to have one of these things, really scared me.

lismati 11-20-2010 06:42 AM

Aliens, PM Asmoden, he will help you with them.

OddjobAbe 11-20-2010 07:05 AM

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Don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread, I don't want to read all 3 pages, but I've had this thing called sleep paralysis, which if I'm correct is similar to lucid dreaming. Basically I "woke up" and was lying in bed but I couldn't move at all. My arm was stretched out and so was my hand. My fingers seemed to be being bent backwards and I couldn't stop it. At the same time I heard this screaming noise in my ears. It wasn't a proper dream either, I can't describe it, but I know it was real life. Can't remember how long it lasted, but it wasn't nice and I wouldn't want anyone to have one of these things, really scared me.

I get sleep paralysis all the time. It's awful, but I just rest until I properly wake up. First time I got it, I really panicked, but there's no way you can wake yourself by conciously trying to wake yourself (or at least, that's the case with me). I ususally wake up when I try to alter something without waking myself up - the other night, I woke up when trying to make my arm comfortable while I waited to wake up. A different night, I woke up when trying to check the time to see how long I had been in that state. I don't panic half as much as I used to. I used to really struggle to move, and I used to really try to vocalise to get help, but it doesn't work.

lismati 11-20-2010 07:30 AM

When I try to get asleep I sometimes get that feeling of falling down through my bed. When that happens I usually move quickly, and my sllepy feelings go away :|

Asmoden 11-20-2010 08:13 AM

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I get sleep paralysis all the time. It's awful, but I just rest until I properly wake up. First time I got it, I really panicked, but there's no way you can wake yourself by conciously trying to wake yourself (or at least, that's the case with me). I ususally wake up when I try to alter something without waking myself up - the other night, I woke up when trying to make my arm comfortable while I waited to wake up. A different night, I woke up when trying to check the time to see how long I had been in that state. I don't panic half as much as I used to. I used to really struggle to move, and I used to really try to vocalise to get help, but it doesn't work.

Actually is estimated 2% of all peoples have your problem.

OddjobAbe 11-20-2010 08:18 AM

I don't give a shit. Fuck off. I don't need you trying to antagonise me.

OANST 11-20-2010 08:19 AM

Could you chant him better? Please? We're all pulling for him.

Asmoden 11-20-2010 08:30 AM

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I don't give a shit. Fuck off. I don't need you trying to antagonise me.

Antagonise you:fuzconf:
When??

scrabface 11-20-2010 08:31 AM

a friend told me that he got sleep paralysis once and that it scared the shit out of him. But it never happened to me...

I dreamed once that I was in a fight with some guys. one hit me to the ground and while I tried to realign I watched one of them pouring a liquid over my right leg. before I knew what he was doing he took a zippo out of his pocket. At this point I realized he was up to burn me alive and I kicked my right leg at him with all my strength.
the odd thing was, I did this in reality, but the problem was, there is a bookcase right next to my bed and I hit the frame with my barefoot. the pain woke me up. in the morning I spent the half day at the hospital as two of my sweety toes (2nd and third) were broken.
I am so stupid I can hurt myself while sleeping. when I told the doctor how it did happen, there was something in his glance... like, "I am worth than this" or "I shouldn't have listen to my father" - I think his confidence has been shaken

OANST 11-20-2010 08:31 AM

FIX HIM WITH YOUR CHANTING! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT THE MAN IS IN PAIN?!

Bullet Magnet 11-20-2010 08:43 AM

I had sleep paralysis while at university once. Try explaining that to your professors.

MA 11-20-2010 08:53 AM

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Antagonise you:fuzconf:
When??

when i forgot to pay your mother.

chant THAT away.

scrabface 11-20-2010 09:00 AM

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when i forgot to pay your mother.

chant THAT away.

dunno but mother jokes or insults coming from a girl isn't the same. it never hits me. maybe it's simply because you got a vagina.

MA 11-20-2010 09:00 AM

me and my big vagina.

MeechMunchie 11-20-2010 11:26 AM

It's like, so huge. You can carry shopping in it.

STM 11-20-2010 11:34 AM

'Tis

By the by Mr. Asmoden, I need you to chant away MA's burning gonorrhoea! It burns so bad!

Emesdee 11-20-2010 01:24 PM

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Don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread, I don't want to read all 3 pages, but I've had this thing called sleep paralysis, which if I'm correct is similar to lucid dreaming. Basically I "woke up" and was lying in bed but I couldn't move at all. My arm was stretched out and so was my hand. My fingers seemed to be being bent backwards and I couldn't stop it. At the same time I heard this screaming noise in my ears. It wasn't a proper dream either, I can't describe it, but I know it was real life. Can't remember how long it lasted, but it wasn't nice and I wouldn't want anyone to have one of these things, really scared me.

I've had that happen a few times when I was younger. Almost always right in the middle of the night, once, during a storm. That was fun.

Bullet Magnet 11-20-2010 02:31 PM

I've had the exact same thing, and also some not entirely unpleasant variations about which I lack the vocabulary to describe.

scrabface 11-20-2010 03:01 PM

everyone has it, even dogs

ziggy 11-20-2010 03:08 PM

I've had that before I think. I 'woke up' but I couldn't move an inch. I wasn't wearing my glasses or contacts so I couldn't see worth shit and some blurry black thing in my room turned into a ghostly black blob that was floating towards me. It said something too, but I can't remember too well. That was terrifying for me.

Dynamithix 11-20-2010 03:17 PM

I just watched Prince of Darkness again and this dream sequence scared the shit out of me even though I've seen the movie 3 times already.


Asmoden 11-20-2010 03:42 PM

Can't see what scared you.

Nate 11-20-2010 04:27 PM

Shut up, OANST, MA and Scrabtrapman. You're not funny and you're not smart and your attempts at trolling come across as half-baked.

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the odd thing was, I did this in reality, but the problem was, there is a bookcase right next to my bed and I hit the frame with my barefoot. the pain woke me up. in the morning I spent the half day at the hospital as two of my sweety toes (2nd and third) were broken.
I am so stupid I can hurt myself while sleeping. when I told the doctor how it did happen, there was something in his glance... like, "I am worth than this" or "I shouldn't have listen to my father" - I think his confidence has been shaken

I've done that too. Not to the point of broken toes, admittedly, but there was a period when I put the spare mattress upright against the wall next to my bed to shield me from any painful late-night kicking.

scrabface 11-20-2010 05:01 PM

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I've done that too. Not to the point of broken toes, admittedly, but there was a period when I put the spare mattress upright against the wall next to my bed to shield me from any painful late-night kicking.

what was your dream?

Nate 11-20-2010 05:56 PM

It happened a few times but it was years ago. The only one I remember was having an argument with my sister and kicking her on the shins. Which, for the record, is very out of character for me as we've never fought physically.

I suppose that dream-sister had her revenge as I was writhing in pain on my bed.

T-nex 11-20-2010 07:45 PM

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I had sleep paralysis while at university once. Try explaining that to your professors.

This story demands an elaboration D=





Anyway on the dream-happening-in-real-life thing... I only dreamt that the whole city was made of ice cream. Then I proceeded to lick it, and woke up by choking on my plushie that I was sleeping with. It had rather long and annoying hairs that didn't taste like ice cream x_x

Emesdee 11-20-2010 09:25 PM

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It had rather long and annoying hairs that didn't taste like ice cream x_x

I ended up accidentally making someone get a haircut when I started chewing their hair in my sleep. It's a wonder I didn't choke to death.

STM 11-21-2010 02:34 AM

Didn't they wake up and ask you to stop? I don't do weird stuff in my sleep but once my brother fell asleep but at like midnight he walked down stairs stood by the living room door and just stared at my family with massive eyes until we realised that he was down stairs. He mumbled something walked towards us and stopped. It was really weird.

Emesdee 11-21-2010 03:05 AM

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Didn't they wake up and ask you to stop?

Nope, didn't notice until the next morning.It wasn't unsalvageable, but they figured it was as good an excuse as any for a haircut.

MA 11-21-2010 07:48 AM

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Shut up, OANST, MA and Scrabtrapman. You're not funny and you're not smart and your attempts at trolling come across as half-baked.

we're losing our touch, right?

OANST 11-22-2010 07:37 AM

Maybe Asmoden could chant the funny back into us?

Asmoden 11-22-2010 01:55 PM

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Maybe Asmoden could chant the funny back into us?

Sure about that?
You will probably explode:p

ziggy 11-22-2010 06:30 PM

DO IT

STM 11-23-2010 09:05 AM

We're not losing our touch. You love my touch, my fingers are soft and cool.