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Seikyo Jack 10-28-2009 01:11 PM

Then I take my leave, I take it you like to stay in chaos-ridden forums in which the only solution is to tell everyone to shut the fuck up. This community is no different of the other english community I,ve been in: nobody is civilized and no staff is willing to do anything except bash when someone says he as a problem with someone else.

MA: YOU are the fucking idiot. I sure hope that avatar you are using is not your real-life pic. If it is, sorry that you were born lacking teeth hygiene.

Farewell, trash.

Wings of Fire 10-28-2009 01:13 PM

Man you guys suck sometimes.

OANST 10-28-2009 01:13 PM

He told us.

MA 10-28-2009 01:15 PM

and now for the fucking infractions for christ sake.

its like after you've had a wank, you think: 'why the fuck did i do that? i feel dirty and sad now.'

Havoc 10-28-2009 01:17 PM

Wow, this got off-topic fast.

Anyway, Jack my boy, if you're not used to being called out on the internet, I suggest you stop paying your internet bill. Especially if you plan to stay around here with your three page arguments that make no sense or have any backup. A forum is meant for discussion, don't start one if you are not prepared to follow up on it.

As for my rudeness, I like to call things as they are. Doesn't mean I reflect the opinion of the entire forum, but I'm not going to sugarcoat my own opinion by saying that 'I don't really like hunters but hm... *whimper*'.

Anyone who goes into a forest to shoot a defenseless animal with a big boomstick from 50 miles away because it gives him a temporary distraction from his micro penis and then tries to sweet talk it by coming up with bullshit arguments about population control and slaughterhouses is an asshole in my opinion.

And at any rate be glad, at least I'm not shooting you in the lungs.

EDIT: Damnit guys, you could have at least kept him around to read my goddamn reply!

OANST 10-28-2009 01:17 PM

Hey, MA. You got him in the lungs. Has your curiosity been sated?

MA 10-28-2009 01:20 PM

sure has.

MeechMunchie 10-28-2009 01:44 PM

Ooh, perfect timing as usual. Just as well, since I've forgotten most of what I was going to say now. I think it was something about not having to destroy part of nature in order to appreciate it. And that tryng to belittle your critics is not that mature either. Oh well, we scared off another one. He was smart, but he just couldn't stand the heat.

Sekto Springs 10-28-2009 01:51 PM

Havoc shouldn't talk about penises. Ever.

Anonyman! 10-28-2009 01:51 PM

Ok I read the first page and was like fuck this but i still feel the need to post


1. The guy is an asshole

2. hunting is alright and shit, but 'for fun' is kinda gay. As in like, not using the meat or anything. i for one love the taste of venison so ive gone a few times.(I LIVE IN KANSAS I WAS DRAGGED OUT THERE AGAINST MY WILL) i dont do it cuz i like killing things.


EDIT: GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE ALL OF YOU

OANST 10-28-2009 01:56 PM

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EDIT: GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE ALL OF YOU



Even me? Little old, harmless me?

Sekto Springs 10-28-2009 02:05 PM

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Even me? Little old, harmless me?

You're the kind of guy who would go trick or treating in full costume and pretend to be one of the kids.

*shivers*

MeechMunchie 10-28-2009 02:11 PM

You're the kind of guy who would go trick or treating dressed as a recently named serial killer or paedophile.

Havoc 10-28-2009 02:21 PM

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Havoc shouldn't talk about penises. Ever.

Why not? I haz permit :(.

AlexFili 10-28-2009 03:52 PM

Thanks a lot you wet flannels. Now you've pissed him off and scared him away from my RPG. Wow, this is the first time I have genuinely been annoyed with people here. Seriously though everyone, chill the heck out.

PS; @MA, you might wanna change your avatar, just a thought.

Sekto Springs 10-28-2009 03:59 PM

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You're the kind of guy who would go trick or treating dressed as a recently named serial killer or paedophile.

The fact that I trick or treat dressed as anything at my age is creepy enough.

shaman 10-28-2009 04:04 PM

I think we should stop this, sit down and play some nice music to calm ourselves.

come on, share the love peeps...

AlexFili 10-28-2009 04:06 PM

Jack Johnson FTW.

BTW I'm not personally angry at any one member here. It's just sad that we lost a potential due to an off-topic topic. Please try to be at least a little bit nice to newbies in future.

Havoc 10-28-2009 04:14 PM

He could have known that his arguments might have been unpopular. Not our fault he thinks he can state his opinion without it being replied to.

MA 10-28-2009 04:15 PM

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PS; @MA, you might wanna change your avatar, just a thought.

why?

and Jack was someone who didn't know what he was talking about. read the whole thread and you'll see him contradict himself and spew out blatant myths, firmly believing them. he was too stubborn, had a paddy over Havoc's response (which funnily enough he didn't bring back up until the discussion grew heated), ignored a number of posts, then got petty about being called a 'noob' and tried to get the last word in. a real productive member.

people began to lose their tempers, and i, admittedly, was one of them. he took it as his opportunity to leave and that was that. oh, and he got in a few 'insults' before he disappeared. which...kinda contradicts himself again what with him being above such inanity.

AlexFili 10-28-2009 04:23 PM

I don't like the profile picture. It should be something more Oddworld related :D

Okay, so maybe Jack wasn't the next Einstein... but if you admitted getting angry, then you admit there is a problem here. This is a lesson for next time. The next time you might scare away the next Mag the Mug or OANST.

Sekto Springs 10-28-2009 04:24 PM

In a nutshell, if he was scared off by that little exchange then he's better off and so are the rest of us.

Also, both Mat and Wil were productive and interesting people from the beginning. First impressions are important.

Also, stfu about the avatar thing you elitist warthog.

shaman 10-28-2009 04:28 PM

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In a nutshell, if he was scared off by that little exchange then he's better off and so are the rest of us.

By my own addmition i could certainly see him gettin knocked sideways in the future, after i read this thread.

Alcar 10-28-2009 04:29 PM

So a baboon is shot out of curiosity. How many of you malicious bastards kill spiders with intent?

Alcar...

Sekto Springs 10-28-2009 04:30 PM

I don't. I love spiders. They're actually useful.

Immunity for me.

shaman 10-28-2009 04:30 PM

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So a baboon is shot out of curiosity. How many of you malicious bastards kill spiders with intent?

Alcar...




Is that what this thread is about? ....wow.

MA 10-28-2009 04:37 PM

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I don't like the profile picture. It should be something more Oddworld related :D

i've never had an Oddworld avatar while you've been here, i've had random pics since the beginning of 2008?

Nate 10-28-2009 04:56 PM

Next person to post something that isn't about hunting in general or the article in the OP will be infracted. And if you have posted multiple times before the next time I log on, I will infract you multiple times.

If you want to discuss Seikyo Jack and noobs in general, keep it to PMs or MSN.

Pilot 10-28-2009 06:08 PM

Aw, I never even got a chance. :(

Nate 10-28-2009 06:13 PM

Yeah, guess what Pilot. You just got infracted.

Anonyman! 10-28-2009 06:19 PM

Ahem.

So...

how bout that asshole. What's his name? The baboon killing mother fucker. Are his reviews any good?

Pilot 10-28-2009 06:29 PM

My reviews are fabulous.... but that infraction was even better :D

Stop messing around kids, lest this fate befall you too.

Psychocath 10-28-2009 06:32 PM

On the topic of hunting... I agree that killing for the sake of killing is bullshit. However, if I were to go out hunting (and believe me, I want to), I'd be carving up the prey for dinner and bleaching the bones to put on display. I'd probably make a coat of the fur too, as it's not nice to waste and I'm fucking freezing.

I'd not be hunting endangered or inedible species, though. That's just silly.

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Don't try to act as if hunting innocent animals is doing something good for the planet. I have not a single ounce of respect for hunters who think they are 'all that' because they are able to carry a powerful gun into a forest. I'd like to see you try and kill a deer with your bare hands, make it a fair fight as long as you insist on hunting your own meat. I put 200 dollars on the deer.

So by your logic it would be more fair if I were to wrangle a deer and stab it numerous times with a makeshift knife, causing a great deal of pain to the animal in a drawn-out and unnecessary struggle, rather than track it and stay downwind as I put a bullet in it to end it's life quickly?

And yes, in some cases it does do good for the planet. For instance, if an animal population were to grow out of control it would cause problems. If the land were overpopulated with too much of one species, it would unbalance the food chain. Other species may die out because of the overpopulating species' consumption of a shared resource, which in turn could cause the predators of said other species to die out because of a lack of prey, and so on.

Wings of Fire 10-28-2009 06:35 PM

The thing with the food chain is that it tends to fix itself without outside intervention, nature has been managing for millions of years before we showed up.

Psychocath 10-28-2009 06:39 PM

Man is not "outside intervention", we are just as much a part of nature as a wolf or lion is.

Wings of Fire 10-28-2009 06:41 PM

Man is not, culling in masses is.

Pilot 10-28-2009 06:42 PM

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Man is not "outside intervention", we are just as much a part of nature as a wolf or lion is.

We're "outside intervention" when we choose not to live alongside nature.

Like all those truck commercials (mostly Ford) of the BIG TRUCKS cutting through the pristine forest and unadulterated environments. So Manly.

I'M A BIG MAN NOW DAWG

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Ow, Nate, that still stings! This is worse than that time I got that Scarlet "O" from OANST.

Havoc 10-28-2009 07:05 PM

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So by your logic it would be more fair if I were to wrangle a deer and stab it numerous times with a makeshift knife, causing a great deal of pain to the animal in a drawn-out and unnecessary struggle, rather than track it and stay downwind as I put a bullet in it to end it's life quickly?

And yes, in some cases it does do good for the planet. For instance, if an animal population were to grow out of control it would cause problems. If the land were overpopulated with too much of one species, it would unbalance the food chain. Other species may die out because of the overpopulating species' consumption of a shared resource, which in turn could cause the predators of said other species to die out because of a lack of prey, and so on.

By my logic, if you want to go hunting for animals at least make it interesting and go in unarmed, like the animal is. Either that or teach the deer how to operate a hunting rifle. I don't think you'd be wanting to go into that forest in either of those two scenarios.

Even IF overpopulation becomes a problem, which it won't because stuff like that should be left up to nature, it is not up to individual hunters to make the call on which species is overpopulated and how many of their brains have to be blown out to reach the quota. I am aware that there is such a thing as hunting seasons to deal with the above problem and permits are being issued, but I will not believe for a second that a hunter gets up in the morning, having pain in his heart because he HAS to go out and shoot something again.

Hunters kill for the thrill, not for the good of the animal. You can't be good for the animal by killing it, that's a fucking paradox no matter how many bends and turns you try to twist it in. It's a bit like saying 'Hey, you've got a fever. Maybe a bullet to the head will fix it.'

Nature will fix itself as long as we leave it alone.

Psychocath 10-28-2009 07:32 PM

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You can't be good for the animal by killing it, that's a fucking paradox no matter how many bends and turns you try to twist it in. It's a bit like saying 'Hey, you've got a fever. Maybe a bullet to the head will fix it.
In that case, perhaps pets who suffer from uncurable afflictions should be spared the bullet or injection and left to live in agony, you know, seeing as killing the animal does no good whatsoever.

I would hunt an animal unarmed for the sake of eating it and putting it's pelt to use. Hell, I'd tear it's throat out. And be shunned by society for not using a gun, no doubt. And then more than likely be arrested for charges of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal. I should think a gun is quicker and more humane than beating a deer over the head with a fucking rock until it stops twitching.

Havoc 10-28-2009 07:53 PM

Pets are part of a family. Generally you love pets, spent time with them for 15 or so years. If a dog is suffering from a wide cancer spread and he is suffering from pain so much he would be better off being put down, then that will be an extremely hard decision to make for it's family. How hard is it for an average hunter to pull the trigger?

And why are you trying to justify the WAY you kill an animal if you shouldn't be killing it in the first place. Yes, a gun is quicker. So is throwing you head first into a meatgrinder. Doesn't mean I should actually do it just because I can.