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Munch's Master 12-19-2008 03:17 PM

I've not resgined from the forums, and no! That role shall still be mine, albeit reluctantly.

And yeah, fuck my earlier "No more Ot" thing. Melodrama sucks, curse me for using it.



And the way I say it sexual attractions to 12 yr olds is paedophilia, whatever the technical term is its still a form of paedophilia. However I think sex with under 16 yr olds being classed as rape is a bit daft, as you do get some 15 yr olds who basically go out looking for a shag. So its hardly rape then.

Anonyman! 12-19-2008 04:22 PM

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No, mudling, you're hideously wrong; did you even bother to wiki Ephebophilia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

Pedophilia only blanket terms it.

Now suck my dick you filthy child.

This.

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sexual attractions to 12 yr olds is paedophilia

At that age, curves develop, breast start growing. That isn't pedo. Pedophilia is getting off to kids just being kids. Watching them play in the park, laugh, cry. That is pedophilia.

Munch's Master 12-19-2008 04:40 PM

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At that age, curves develop, breast start growing. That isn't pedo. Pedophilia is getting off to kids just being kids. Watching them play in the park, laugh, cry. That is pedophilia.

I understand your point but I still think its paedophilia at its core. It may not seem to be in the same sense but they're 12 for God's sakes. If you were saying it about a 14 or 15 yr old I maybe could understand your point as by then they have considerably phsyically developed but at 12, they are still little more than a kid physically. But I don't really take an interest in studying paedophilia so its not like Im particularly informed on the subject anyway.

Anonyman! 12-19-2008 04:49 PM

I understand. But even full-grown, "normal" adults can be turned on by a twelve year old in suggestive poses.

On a side note, I read somewhere that there are more pedophiles than there are gay people, but it is hard to track obviously.

Strike Witch 12-19-2008 04:51 PM

Depends. If we're talking Pedos who get the thoughts, then I'd believe it. If you mean people who act on those thoughts, then no way.

Anonyman! 12-19-2008 04:56 PM

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Depends. If we're talking Pedos who get the thoughts, then I'd believe it. If you mean people who act on those thoughts, then no way.

Yeah, I meant the former.

mudling 12-19-2008 05:18 PM

But if 1 in 10 people are supposedly gay doesn't that mean, 1 in 9 or even more than that people are, well, pedos.
And anonyman, you bring up a good point, but still, regardless on why they are attracted, the reason they are persecuted, or how I intreptate it, is because they are not seen to be mature enough to make a decision such as sex, and can be easily manipulated by others.
Look, I know it's harsh, by I personally believe it's for the best, if only to protect the minority out there.

But yes, they differ from pedos because pedos seem to be defined by people who have a fettish, whereas, those who prey on young kids, possibly even under 12s can do it because of how vunerable, and easily influenced they are.
Either way, these people are still horrble, IMO, and "predators".

But I digrees, those girls are drawn that way in order to look adorable and cute, which is in the style of most anime, and so japanese school girls can identify with them, however, they are teenagers pruley because they're just in reach of japanese male teenagers, or in this case, Ghost, being attracted to them.
Therefore, the reason why these kids watch these shows, Ghost you can argue whatever you want but kids love how shows look, and don't care so much what actually happens.
Although I'm afraid I don't know too much on the toppic, so forgive me if I'm wrong.

Leto 12-19-2008 05:23 PM

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But isn't 1 in 10 people gay doesn't that mean, 1 in 9 or more people are, well, pedos.
Your logic is so flawed I simply cannot begin to explain it's immense level of wrongevity.

I quite like my made up word

Anonyman! 12-19-2008 05:42 PM

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I quite like my made up word

Me too.

BTW MUDLING
I'm just saying. No opinions here.

mudling 12-19-2008 05:54 PM

What I'm trying to say, is that I can't comprehend petos being so common, but I guess it's possible, if they simply don't take action.
And no offence taken, this is a forum, say whatever you want. :)

Leto 12-19-2008 05:58 PM

Pedos are far more common than you think; the media just doesn't cover them that much. I assume you are a little conservative in your beliefs, purely because you haven't been exposed to half of the shit that's out there.

Anonyman! 12-19-2008 06:00 PM

Hey mudling. Do me a favor and go to 4chan.org
Have fun, darling.

Daxter King 12-19-2008 08:22 PM

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Pedos are far more common than you think; the media just doesn't cover them that much. I assume you are a little conservative in your beliefs, purely because you haven't been exposed to half of the shit that's out there.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1941/rollcallgn2.png

scrabface 12-20-2008 04:08 AM

it is a fact, that most rapes happen to exercise power, and not allways have anything to do with the age or even the gender of the victim. p.e. prison rapes. it is relativly unlike that the rapists are all gays...

Fuzzle Guy 12-20-2008 05:08 AM

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p.e. prison rapes. it is relativly unlike that the rapists are all gays...

I was going to make some witty but not very funny and jack-ass like comment about being raped in the PE changing rooms, but this then prompted me to think about what actually does go on in the PE changing rooms.

This could explain why people in my class, who I'm sure are perfectly straight guys, go round shoving their fingers up your arse, or slap your ass etc.

Wings of Fire 12-20-2008 05:11 AM

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I was going to make some witty but not very funny and jack-ass like comment about being raped in the PE changing rooms, but this then prompted me to think about what actually does go on in the PE changing rooms.

This could explain why people in my class, who I'm sure are perfectly straight guys, go round shoving their fingers up your arse, or slap your ass etc.

That's a common social process called male bonding, in the old days before Catholicism pretty much everyone was bi, this is how people like that get rid of their unconscious urge for it, that and contact sports.

Ilu Freud

Hobo 12-20-2008 05:24 AM

I'm bored of every offtopic thread being about sex or game threads.

Fuck you guys.

Anonyman! 12-20-2008 05:52 AM

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it is a fact, that most rapes happen to exercise power, and not allways have anything to do with the age or even the gender of the victim. p.e. prison rapes. it is relativly unlike that the rapists are all gays...

That was never said.

lol yaoi cock

AlienMagi 12-20-2008 07:57 AM

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...namiFamily.jpg
I have an upscaled version of this as my desktop background.
I don't rub to it, I simply find it cute as.
The three individuals are all, like, 12.

Oh, and the one on the right is a boy.

Am I a pedophile?

1. No you aren't a pedophile unless you touch.
2. I think hentai is not allowed on owf...

Hobo 12-20-2008 08:07 AM

How is that Hentai?

God I want to strangle you sometimes.




All the time.

Strike Witch 12-20-2008 01:13 PM

That is not hentai.

Would you like me to show you hentai?

Because I can show you hentai.

Wings of Fire 12-20-2008 01:25 PM

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That is not hentai.

Would you like me to show you hentai?

Because I can show you hentai.

Don't, and be thankful you missed the deleted posts and flame war =D.

OANST 12-22-2008 09:58 AM

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Don't, and be thankful you missed the deleted posts and flame war =D.

You guys had a flame war without me? There hasn't been a flame war without me in fucking years! FUCKING GODDAMMIT, ALCAR! DO YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED!?

AlienMagi 12-23-2008 06:11 AM

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That is not hentai.

Would you like me to show you hentai?

Because I can show you hentai.

I know it's not, I was joking

Nah I know sites to watch it

No you can't. Not allowed :P

Anonyman! 12-23-2008 06:49 AM

Seriously, why are you still here?

Strike Witch 12-23-2008 11:13 AM

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2..._ark/Char3.jpg
He is drawn to Char.

Havoc 12-23-2008 03:02 PM

We don't need a history lesson on fucking anime... Use your damn blog for that stuff.

magic9mushroom 12-26-2008 06:31 AM

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I challenge that statement, any psychologist performing a study like that would have his license torn up in front of him and be convicted for handling pedophilic material.

You're an idiot. Seriously.

I was going to flame you and insult your intelligence, but I realised that wouldn't be very constructive, so I deleted it.

Scientific studies can get exemptions for that sort of thing. Sure, they'd have to get it approved, but after all, stopping research on something because material involved is illegal is pretty contrary to progress, and not many governments are that dumb. Regulation, yes. But banning research into illegal material because illegal material is handled is stupid.

Wings of Fire 12-26-2008 07:03 AM

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You're an idiot. Seriously.

I was going to flame you and insult your intelligence, but I realised that wouldn't be very constructive, so I deleted it.

Scientific studies can get exemptions for that sort of thing. Sure, they'd have to get it approved, but after all, stopping research on something because material involved is illegal is pretty contrary to progress, and not many governments are that dumb. Regulation, yes. But banning research into illegal material because illegal material is handled is stupid.

You have no idea, I study Psychology at Glasgow university using the standard APA guideline for ethical implications of experiments, what expertise have you got? Governments do not control Psychological studies, university guidelines do, including ethical panels using a wide range of academic and naive judges, in the current climate of political correctness we're in I cannot see any of them consenting to using pedophilic material to conduct research.

Also it should be noted that my statement is applicable to Western World cultures in the last twenty to thirty years, I can fully accept this experiment happening if those conditions are not met, although in that case I cannot see the results of such an experiment being very viable at all.

Anonyman! 12-26-2008 09:50 AM

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not many governments are that dumb.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Also, WoF is probably right.

Havoc 12-26-2008 10:02 AM

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You're an idiot. Seriously.

I was going to flame you and insult your intelligence, but I realised that wouldn't be very constructive, so I deleted it.

Are you so mentaly chalenged that you can't even respond to something as simple as that in a normal fashion? You're the idiot here, starting your post with "Actualy, I think..." would have made you look a lot more matuire. Fail.

Strike Witch 12-26-2008 01:15 PM

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We don't need a history lesson on fucking anime... Use your damn blog for that stuff.

:D

Leto 12-26-2008 02:37 PM

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Are you so mentaly chalenged that you can't even respond to something as simple as that in a normal fashion?
I'll take it that was in jest

LOL

Hobo 12-26-2008 05:41 PM

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I'll take it that was in jest

LOL

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would have made you look a lot more matuire. Fail.


Havoc 12-27-2008 02:58 AM

I get it I get it, jeez :p. It was a quick post okay, didn't bother to check the spelling.

Fuzzle Guy 12-27-2008 04:03 AM

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didn't bother to check the spleling.

:p

abe is now! 12-27-2008 04:50 AM

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I have masturbated to this image. What does this make me?

Jinxed... XD

scrabface 12-27-2008 02:29 PM

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I can fully accept this experiment happening if those conditions are not met, although in that case I cannot see the results of such an experiment being very viable at all.


why wouldnt be the results viable?

Wings of Fire 12-27-2008 03:03 PM

First you have to consider participants of such an experiment, imagine a advertisement in a student magazine asking for participants to come along to view sexual pictures of little girls, what kind of people are you liable to get in response to such an advert? Certainly not a representative sample of the student community. I know I wouldn't sign up for such an experiment regardless of the monetary or credit value earned. If the experiment used deception to lure in it's participants then the ethical flaws in such a study would be immense, what happens if you show a picture of a naked child to a fifty year old lecturer and he has a heart attack? Or if you have fundamentalist christian undergrads throwing up and claiming lawsuits left right and center? This is what I meant earlier when I said that such a study would just not pass.

Next just consider the methodology of such an experiment, the beastly thing doesn't even bear talking about. A study like that would be methodologically a mess, if you were using a within participants design you would be very wary of the participants who agreed to carry on after the first run 'Yes I want to look at more pictures of naked girls in the name of science' the kind of people who want to see more will jar your results horrifically, also keep in mind that ethical values between cultures vary a long way, it might be viewed as normal in some collectivist cultures to find twelve year old girls sexually attractive.

Standards nowdays, and in western cultures are far more stringent than standards anywhere else, think of Nazi Germany where the results of psychological experiments were manipulated by the government or the middle east where some research is just not allowed, needless to say that temporally standards have changed quite a lot too, not just ethically. Any study done like that would lack both internal and external validity and make it wide open to critical assailt.

It should be noted I was pretty drunk by the end of that post

OH FUCK A DOUBLE POST

Fixed!
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Why? What the hell did I ruin?
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Anonyman! 12-27-2008 03:55 PM

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It should be noted I was pretty drunk by the end of that post

OH FUCK A DOUBLE POST

Dear lord man.