Think about this in an offline sense again. Cognitive bias's, first impressions, past knowledge etc etc. Reputation means a damn lot more than some stupid little phrase and digit by your name. The process of 'judgement by reputation' has presumably gone on in these forums for eight years and veteran posters didn't lose all that reputation because the phrase told them it was so therefore older members are more likely to get rep because they've earned it beforehand while so called 'Smaller members' like yourself are less likely to get reputation because you post less and aren't as well known. I, of course, am a living criticism for that since I for some unfathomable reason have a silly amount of points O.o.

You earn your rep like you do in any other social situation; by endearing yourself to the majority. It's a slow process you shouldn't care about if you're out to be controversial and the best way to get more rep is to ignore your own points and carry on as normal.

This is why I think that this rep system is silly. Idiots will always want more and people who deserve it know that a number won't affect how the people who matter view them.

You state that I do not pay enough attention to you folks, yet you clearly have not paid enough attention to me: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...9&postcount=35

Hypocrisy!

Alcar...

Uf... I think I regret ever suggesting this system.


People complain about it as if it's the end of the world.

Wings of fire, I know you're only trying to help, but this is online, not offline, it's a completly different world, we wouldn't act like this in real life becuase you can get away with things alot more and there's no direct contact or communications so to speak.
The reason older members get rep more easily is becuase they're either famous/ infamous, well known, or people are afraid of loosing them, our numbers are down enough already
Though you do raise some good points, and I know you're trying to help, but it's not the rep that's the problem, it's merely opened a door to a long running potential problem that's being going on in these forums, and well, all forums.
And T-nex, whilst it's not your fualt for suggesting it becuase you could of never forseen this, it's not the end of the world, but it's proving to be the end of some forum members, or at least helping.
I agree with Carnix, people should be more encouraged to give out good rep points, bad should be for more servere things, otherwise, we're nitpicking each other's posts and we have to make every single one of our posts perfect and agreeing with everyone's oppinion, which is hard no matter what annoyone says.

And ALcar, I have never said that, you're the head of these forums, of course you do.
And as someone, I think it was T-nex said, there's no real guidlines on what to rep people for, but expectations, but could we please get a FAQ or something that tells us specifically what to look out for and avoid? Since it's no longer a question of obbeying or disobbeying the rules.
*Edit* Oh and can a mod please check my rep points? I don't want to complain now when I can avoid it, but "Stupid mother fucker" is not a reason to give someone bad rep, an actually, saying that's against the rules isn't it?

Anoyone have a tissue? Anybody?

Look, your rep would never have fallen so low if you had refrained from doing two things. Making racist comments and complaining about your rep. I never would have felt the need to keep giving you negative rep if I didn't have to see your obnoxious posts about rep in every single thread on the forum. Just quit your puling and we'll leave you alone.

I never stated that you don't pay enough attension. I stated that you pay more attention to "larger" members.

I'm always quite a hypocrit it's just people tend to overlook me too much to notice...

Oh I've given up, I've made long posts, well thought out ones, and I get rep, and then ONAST and his fan club just throughs shit at me, and Disgruntled Intern (and I only pointed it out becuase you said the same about me) becuase I gave him negative points, the simple fact that ONAST has so powerful points alone shows that he's got enough supporters.
I give up, I realy do, it's not the rep system, but what it means, I stand up to the forums and make a few negative remarks, and I've got the whole forums on me, I only complained about Hobo becuase I thought he was trying to get me to make an excuse to be punnished, for all of the shit I've caused.
Well, I'm not holding an I'm leaving thread, but I probably am, I tried to stop it with ONAST, and I have all of his fucking freinds (Well, two of them anyway) giving me negative stuff for thing's that have already been stated.
So, if someone would just look at my rep points, I hope that could help everyone to see what's wrong with these forums.
I knew standing up to several people was a bad idea, but that's not going to fix anything, as several people have stated, several people need to start acting their ages, maybe even me included.
And ONAST, you did it becuase I stood up to you and pointed out your flaws, not becuase of my complaining, I wasn't actually complaining, or I didn't mean to, I was pointing out a fact.

Don't patronise me.

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, if you're so worried about your rep then for the love of God get this into your skull. You are sitting on a computer, he/she is sitting on another computer, they read your comment and judge you as reputable or not by how valid your argument is so don't think the online/offline thing protects you from losing rep if you say something others find offensive. Yes there will be differing views and yes the whole rep giving thing is entirely subjective but if you can't back up your argument (As you couldn't, your reasons for ethnic cleansing being quite trite) you WILL lose reputation in the eyes of that collection of pixels who live half the world away.

For the record I pride myself as being an extremely honest person and act exactly the same online as I do offline.

This is exactly the point I made. Please be sure to fully read the post before responding.

This is stupid.

I can't think there is anyone immature enough to leave these forums (especially the older members) because they have a low number which at the end of the day doesn't mean a thing. To the best of my knowledge we have a moderator who has less than 10 rep and I don't believe he's left yet.

If a member leaves because of this then it's their loss for being socially neurotic arseholes.

You don't have to agree with everyones opinions, your argument has to be valid enough to deem you as reputable and not contain any Fallacies of argument.

You really do worry way too much about this.

You don't want to complain yet you do? This is illogical and unlikely to score you any of those points you so desperately crave.

ITT: Crybabies.

The reputation system is supposed to be based on the content of individual posts - as has already been stated. That is definitely what it was created for.

However, it has limited moderation built in to vBulletin. We cannot moderate it as you would a thread or post - reputation is kept 'behind the scenes' and is only visible to those that receive it and Administrators (if we search specifically for it).

That being said, should we define a set of regulations? That if broken we can remove said reputation points.

Alcar...

Yes please, that would help and stop complaints
And as I'm trying to say, I'm over me loosing rep, I'm just pissed at the trolls and problems of these forums, quite frankly they're bullies, and my standing up to them shows just that, my loosing repution shows what they do to people who give shit to them, but then again, that's the only thing they can do, so I'm happy :)
All I've wanted was for justice to be served and for people to stop leaving the forums, and I wouldn't mind ending this with ONAST aswell, let's just drop this whole thing and move on shall we? Stop being a troll and I'll stop complaining, and we'll have nothing bad to say about each other, or we won't anyway.
Oh, and back to 0, I don't desperatly crave any points, I no longer care, the only thing I'm pissed off about is that there appears to be areswhole's still loose and at large within the forums, and justice hasn't been served, call me one of them if you wish
And I agree either becuase I actually do, believe it or not, or when there's a fight going on, to avoid it.

Exactly which flaws are these? The fact that I'm a dick? Trust me, Sally. You aren't the first to say so. AIN and Carnix have said the same thing. Do you think I treat them the same as you? No. You're a whiny bitch and that's the reason for the season.

Wtvr, let's just end this

Is there a way to see why others have given rep points to you, or anyone else? I didn't see anything by viewing the users little account page.

You can only see it in your User CP. At the bottom of the page. If the users who gave or took rep, didn't give an explanation, then there is none. You can PM them if you're desperate to know though.

Personally, I don't take the whole Rep-system that seriously. I see it as (I think) it was originally meant to be: a fun-function of OWF. I check it once in a while and think "Hm, nothing changed here. I guess I'm not doing anything bad, then." and that's it.

Moreover, the main point to me is the opinion others give; not the Rep points which come along with it. Then again, all this can be solved in the classic way, which is replying in threads and expressing your opinion on the respective matter. I think this is the reason why I don't take this system seriously. The Rep-point-part is just an interesting additional function.

What does it mean if there's a blue box next to a rep in my user CP?

Maybe that it didn't produce you Rep points? I also have one on my list, and there's no change in points...

As far as I can tell, it’s when the rep given/taken is zero. I don’t think vB stores whether the rep given/taken is approval or disapproval, the PHP just works out the value in real‐time. So if a person gives you rep while having no rep power, the neutral blue card is used, whether they gave you positive or negative rep.

This rep terminology is exhausting.