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Hobo didn't joke around with me when he banned me, and yes, he did banned me. And I wasn't laughing around, sayin' "Oh, ha ha. Hobo banned me 'cause he was jokin' 'round. Well, I guess I'll wait fer two weeks, and then laugh with him at this joke," I dunno 'bout you, but Hobo's sense of humor isn't at all a thing to laugh about. It's something you wanna get back at 'im, fer. |
Okay, what the hell? Since when did this forum turn into a place where the moderation team can just play around and abuse their powers? Because thats what basicaly happened here. It was said before, the rules state clearly no multies are allowed, Alcar and the rest are extremely over sensitive about that and ban on sight. But when they feel like pulling a joke, they just create one themself to have some fun. What gives you the right to do so and not other members? The mod team us supposed to set an example for other members and not think they are better then others just because they have powers and a fancy title (AKA Hobo, and how he ever got powers is totaly beyond me).
We have had countless discussions about how postcount and custom titles doesn't make anyone better then a new member. But I guess admin or mod status does? Thats BS, and I say that while I'm on the Mod team myself. The people involved in this dishonour their title. Let me tell you a thing or two about running a professional forum. The Oddworld Forums are the top unofficial Oddworld forums in the community. If not the only realy active one. That alone is reason enough to keep this place ran in a professional manner. Playing jokes on members is fun for your every day house, kitchen & garden forum. But not here. Our forum is the first website mentioned on the Oddworld.com fansite list. But this place seems to suddenly have developed a huge gap between member and moderator. And thats not the way to go. If you can not see that abusing your powers to play a joke (and a very very lame one at that, because I didn't find it at all funny), is wrong. If you, as a mod or admin, choose to have a prick like Hobo around, dispite him breaking every possible rule, and where any other guy with the same behaviour would have been banned long ago. If that is how you think a forum should be ran, you are not worthy of your title. Also, Hobo is not funny. I can take whatever he throws at me, don't you worry about that. But that doesn't make it funny. Hobo is an arogant piece of sh*t that should have been kicked from this place long ago, instead of everyone praising him as a god for some retarded reason. Other people who joined this forum with the same behavior lasted a week, or a month at the very most, before the entire staff decided it was enough and banned the guy. Hobo still has his name all over the callender, thinking he is some important person who should be remembered. The persons involved in this should check themselfs to see if they actualy find this funny. And should concider if this is the level you want OWF to continue with. Because if you keep running this place the way you do now, it will be dead before 2007. |
Nah... Lets just forget about this... It was just a joke, I just got surprised... Sorry I overeacted.
I should remember not to post when i get upset.. :-/ |
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I dont really think so, cos this forum is as active as it uses to be... i think... Nah it was more active in the past, but when the movie gets out, alot of members will come :-) Dont worry..
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Havoc, I honestly don't think Hobo means most of the things he says. I may not post on the forums jokes like him, but I understand where his jokes are coming from. They ARE light-hearted jokes, meant to impact on a person for a split second. The most obvious of jokes is one where you take the most obvious attribute of a person, and make it funny. Obviously, that is you with Tigers. I'd rather a joke based on some facts, rather than jokes made simply out of spite. That being said, I'm not here to defend Charlie. I honestly don't think anyone should take him seriously when he makes such comments, but then their are always those who interpret things differently.
As for my involvement in the whole Wired thing. I did not take part in any of it. I merely turned a blind eye. Sometimes to keep the masses happy, or keep a forum active, you need to comprimise. This isn't the first time somewhat 'scandolous' acts have been used to boost activity or interest in the forums. I know I often bash President Bush, or even my own Prime Minister John Howard for his blatant stupidity or two-sidedness, but through my years of experience, to keep a healthy and happy community (or government), you often need to resort to things less optimistic. Sad but true. This isn't a utopia, and the things we have to deal with behind the scenes are phenomenal. So don't you dare judge me based on your limited knowledge. I had nothing to do with this, other than turning a blind eye. The inner workings of such were not decided upon by me, etc, etc. I'd prefer if the lot of you would deal with me in private, perhaps MSN, rather than attack me, because you're joining the Alcar bandwagon. This ain't a thread about me. Alcar... |
Well We should just put the whole thing behind us... I think arguing about this is just lame now... There are much more important things to attend to in life, than arguing about wether or not somebody made a joke...
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Just wait for me multi. It's going to be nonstop one sentence posts. Wait. That's no different from my regular account. Maybe as a joke I'll start writing intelligent, well thought out posts.
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Yes. Please don't get pissed at Alcar for this, people. He had the least to with it out of all of us.
As the highest-ranking staff member that allowed and participated in the whole Wired debacle, I accept full responsibility, so you can get angry at me if that's what you want. Just don't vent at Alcar. And honestly, I don't feel the least bit guilty about Wired, as I am constantly going out of my way by checking new members for the possibility of multiple accounts. I don't "make a big deal about it," I do it because it's my responsibility. And I don't care if this is hypocritical, because Wired was nothing more than a one-time joke to liven up this place a bit; he was never a serious multi account. Everything he said was supposed to be ironic, but I guess some people just missed that. Those who participated had every intention of revealing Wired's identity once the majority of the forum was convinced that he was Dino. Unfortunately, we were all too lazy to make Dino-length posts, so our plan kinda fell apart. It was going to be a "Ha-ha! Gotcha! We can all laugh about it and move on now!" moment, but I guess that wasn't meant to be. I do want thank a few of you, like Dippy, who are seriously ready to move past the whole thing, and even fewer of you, like OANST, who actually get it. |
Hello all. Thanks for ballsing up my birthday thread.
TM has been closed. I don't see why it had to end. Peter's right. I have a sense of humour. Something that Slipknot kiddies obviously arn't cool enough to have these days what with their myspace and the self harm. I am not returning from the dead. If i was i'd be posting constantly. My posts have all been concise. You know. There's a reason TM was created. Oddworld Inhabitants have gone people. Stop fucking it's corpse. This forum is now infested with dopplegangers, posers and kids. So i won't be coming back here except to see the results of this thread. To members of TM, who were invited. Send me a PM as unless you 're Rich you'll be unable to talk to me. I'll check it in 3 days or so. Peter, thank you for your words and your honesty. But i assure you people TM was my creation. I was the grand overlord. As i once was here pretty much. You can say i abuse my position as friend of 90% of the admin team. Actually, everyone except T-Nex and Havoc. But these people these 5th or whatever Generation forumers. You have a real problem. You know why? You think you're god's gift to the internet. But guess what? You're worse than the kids who can't type in sentances yet. Abe16 and Abeguy may be younger than 90% of this forum. But i tell you what. I'd rather be talking to them than any of you boring ego pumping scum. Matt. Be aware i never wanted you on my forums. You made a personal attack on me on these forums. You stopped a lot of people having fun. You stupid fat tub of shit. That's all i have to say. Havoc. Get a girlfriend without claws. Well this is me leaving OWF for good. Again. I will miss you all. Even those i hate because you make me laugh with your pathetic responces. Oh by the way. I was Dino. And you've all been... |
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Well Hobo, I never really hated you or anything, but your socalled light humor is something i never liked... Basically because i never knew if it was a joke or for real...
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I've been hobowned. Jesus Christ, not again. I've actually got a secret to let you all in on. I'm Hobo. I always have been Hobo. I always will be Hobo.
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This thread delivers.
Seriously though, I agree with allot of the points made here. Mods, please tighten up. I don't want another Nazi invasion like we had before, but this forum is turning into some kind of shit-infested pit. You're overlooking too many things. Why do you let Hobo speak to people like that? Because it's only humour? Why is it humour? If I recall, allot of you were moaning at SS because of his humour, so why the fuck is Hobo's humour getting accepted? Is there some rule that allows you to flame anyone you like because the admin likes you? Seriously, if someone came on a forum I made and kept making jokes about a mod being bestial with Tigers, I'd ban his ass ASAP. Just stop favouring some people over another. And for the Wired thing. I don't get what's going on. Dipstikk, if you flamed Hobo out of the blue for some reason, you deserve to be banned. I don't know the story though, so I won't get involved. What I will say is, mods, don't make rules you won't abide by yourself. Having those shiny icons under your name doesn't make you any better than a member. |
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If you want us to "tighten up" even a little, then half of the crap that pretty much all of you post is going to get deleted. And we'll be accused of being nazis and spoiling your good times. I guarantee it. We're damned either way.
I still stand by the fact that this place should be for casual conversation until we get... gee, I don't know... a substantial member base? Maybe some concrete news that OWI still has a pulse? Look, Hobo is just saying all of this to get a rouse out of you guys, and you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker. Ignore him if he pisses you off so much. It's not like he's even a regular member; besides, everything he's said has been in retaliation to a member's "subtle" condescending attitude. And Heaven forbid that the mods have a bit of fucking fun every once in a while. See pretty much everything I said in my last post on page three. Christ. Wired was a joke. We weren't just breaking the rules to fuck with you guys. You were supposed to catch on eventually. And again, for the love of God, thank you OANST. For having a damn sense of humor. Seriously. |
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And sure, you mods want some fun. But think about it from our point of view. Someone makes a multi-account, makes his account seem like a total retard, you ban his IP and he e-mails you saying, ''It was only a joke!''. Would you honestly let him back on? Wired was a troll, that's why people are moaning... |
Hobo was provoked in this thread. He responded with something that was obviously an intentional cheap shot. Intentional, because he was clearly not going for a mature, intellectual argument, meaning everyone should have taken it as a light-hearted, albeit spiteful, retort. We've have plenty of members do this in the past: Jacob, DI, and Melvin, just to name a few. They were never an issue, because for as many people that became whiney bitches whenever these veteran members said anything remotely "cruel" or "callous," there were even more members that found the humor in their meaningless jabs (even the so-called "victims" at some points). Christ, if Hobo pisses you off, ignore him.
Whatever. I don't even care about the Hobo situation. I'm not a babysitter, although sometimes I wonder. What I still do care about, however, is all of this Wired business. As for Wired, the situation is completely different from a single person making a multi. This was several staff and regular members working on a practical joke as a planned, isolated incident with consent of administration ahead of time. That's the difference. Of course, I'm the administration that gave consent, and I'll admit, if I had thought that you guys would take this so badly, I never would have participated or even allowed it to occur. However, I honestly had no idea everyone was going to go all emo prude over the whole thing. Needless to say, an incident like this will never be allowed again, simply because some of you obviously aren't able to step back and laugh at the situation. And honestly, if I were in your position, I would be laughing. At the joke. Because it was a joke. A satire of Reece and all of his multiple accounts. Nothing more. Ha. |
I can see the funny side of it, yes, but it had a bad side too. Wired had flamed the Hell out of some people, and one or two of those have now left. And considering the fact this forum is in a bad state right now, that's not helping us one bit. It would've been funny if it was some obvious Dino clone on April Fools for one day, then you atleast gave away the gag.
And I don't have anything personal against Hobo, but what I'm moaning about is using the same annoying gag on someone constantly, despite they've repeatedly told them to stop. But whatever, these are just my opinions. |
I haven't seen anyone leave as a result of Wired, nor have I seen anyone explicitly ask (instead of reply with an equally smug remark) Hobo to stop one of his typical comments.
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Let me show you kind people a little chart.
Reece=Mawk=Codec=Dino=Hobo=Cullen=Stingbee=old and not so tasty You fools. You poor fools. You had no clue. |
I love how you have IP addresses for your other accounts in another country, OANST. Now folks, that's commitment. :p
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Yeah. I really put my whole heart into this project. Cost me about 100,000 dollars altogethor but I'll be damned if it wasn't worth it.
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http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=13589
Okay, rydell is a bad example, but still. And Hobo kept making those lame tiger jokes. Still though, said my point and that's it. Let's all just bask in OANST's randomness. |
Hey! Screw you, Cyber Slig! I'm sick and tired of you always putting me down. My mom always told me that I didn't have to shit from noone. So, I will thank you to kindly give me a big old, man on man kiss on the lips. I'm sorry. I love you. I'll see you back at home. We're having meatloaf tonight.
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Like, shut up?
Hobo rocks and I losely agree with everything he's said. I'm not going to defend him too much, because he IS a cunt. But he's a damn awesome cunt and he's my friend and I'll stand by him. |
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I just have to go on the record here and say that rydell is, indeed, a horrible example. As if 6 or so other people, myself included, did not pester her for treating this place like a live journal. There. I just had to add that. *recloses* EDIT: Scratch that. I've received complaints from several members stating that they were not properly represented in this thread, so I'm temporarily giving you guys a chance to get this stuff off your chests. Just make it quick and concise; keep the "rwar" to a minimum. We don't need pent-up anger coming out in some other thread. |
I have two more things to say:
1) To those who are crying about how Wired flamed everyone. Are you effin’ blind? My god, look at our posts when we flamed members. We made ourselves look SO stupid on purpose. I mean... Just take a look at the grammar, spellings, arguments made. Remember the cancer thread? I specifically remember yelling at Max in the most retarded fashion when he mentioned that all the info was copied and pasted. My favorite Wired line is even from there: “lobsters do get really big tho.” How could you possibly be hurt by something like that instead of laughing at it? And the multiple personality disorder... We made it so obvious that it was pure BS. How can you not laugh at our attempts and random posting styles? And just look at our long list of funny ideas that I posted here. I can’t see how a person from here with any sort of sense humor fails to find a single one of our ideas as hilarious. 2) Dipstikk, do not blame Hobo for your banning on TM. Firstly, you are to blame for breaking a rule, and secondly, I was the one who banned you. Ironically, I was also the one who pushed for your being invited and I was the one who wanted you to come back after your absence from TM to join our game. |
A quick word to you mods. even though I am over with this whole thing and it is nearly dissolved, please don't ever do this again if you are going to insult certain members, even new ones like Rydell. You of all people should know how hurtful things across internet can be. And seems pretty hypocritical of all of you to do something like that. I wouldn't have minded as much if you had excluded all members from your plot. And yes mods need to 'have fun' every once and a while, but you shouldn't do it if it includes going against the highest rules you are assigned to defend.
To Amber: I don't think he's mad at Hobo for the Mausoleum so much, he's probably pissed at him for the same reasons I am. Charlie indeed has a lot of growing up to do. |
Questions:
1. If Wired was produced as a completely BS account paced to be found out by any relatively intelligent member, then why have a militant heart attack now that it has been uncovered? Even if you do consider it 'too soon', it's no reason to break a blood vessel. 2. Many of you claim Hobo's jokes are in good humor, can someone tell me how being called a fat ass or tiger fucker is in good humor? Much obliged. That's about it. I'm not trying to be smart here, I'm being full-heartedly honest. |
I think the worst damage that creating Wired caused was inflicted on me. It just sounded so goddam fun that I couldn't stop myself from making a multi. Of course, I'm a retard and I used oanst@hotmail.com as my email so I got caught before I could post anything. It just made me disapointed that I missed all of the fun.
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Luke is a sharp-eyed college kid. You were fucked from the start, Mat.
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@used: If anything, people shouldn't flame members even if they're new; people shouldn't flame members especially if they're new. But that's beside the point. Wired never specifically attacked a only a single, lone member, and never once "seriously" attacked another member; no one who controlled Wired was actually serious about what they were saying. It was sarcasm, people. And honestly, I'm embarrassed that no one really caught on. Like Amber said, all of our posts were painfully stupid.
And honestly, it's a little hypocritical that you're saying all of this, considering that you (maybe not now, but at least not too long ago) were one of the members most known for flaming. If there was any new member that was actually hurt by something Wired said, then they probably weren't going to last long anyway. You or someone else would have hounded them until they left. @SS: I can't speak for my accomplices, but I'm certainly not losing any sleep over the fact that Wired was exposed; after all, he was meant to be exposed. I'm just mad that no one is really seeing the humor in all of this. @everyone who has felt or is going to feel the need to mention Hobo: I don't care, but continue to state your opinion so we don't have any messy outbursts in the future. |
I'm sure people would be more light-hearted about it if it was a common member involved and not a handful of mods assigned specifically to uphold such forum laws. It's especially evident after the dreadful 'dark ages' (OMFG) that people take things way too seriously on this forum, with that knowledge in mind, whether or not it was meant to be funny, you could have inferred that this would not turn out well. It's laughable that people get so bent out of shape, I'll admit, but ultimately; it just creates more problems in the end. Not worth it for a laugh, IMO.
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Laws like no exceptions for multi accounts--jokes or otherwise? Well, if that's what you absolutely want, I'm sure someone could take care of that.
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Now, technically that's not a multi as part 1 was destroyed in it's prime. (sniffle) Mine was aborted in fetu.
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I smell fractured justice!
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Let it be known that Rich and I were the only Mods involved with the Wired thing. Like I've said before, Alcar had nothing to do with it.
Over twice as many "normal" members logged in as Wired, so it wasn't a Mod conspiracy or anything like that. It was orchestrated by several typical members. It's just kinda bothering me that all of a sudden, everyone has become this crusader of forum morality. Rules were made to be broken. That's why we (the administration) let a lot of the members on here get away with the things that they do (spamming). But seriously, if some of you are so dead-set on us upholding the rules, then maybe you should start obeying them on your own. |
Now, Now Kiddies... Play Nice. What would your parent’s thing about this... HA HA HA.
It's a pity I miss out on all of the fun. I feel like the last in line to ride town bike. So I guess this is something else that we can add to the History of Oddworld Forums. |
Wasn't this thread suposed to be closed? :-S
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