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Kimon 12-26-2005 12:02 PM

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Umm, I thought it was quite clear that the jagged jaws the like of the Outlaws was actually the bone structure and not bad graphics - there's nothing to suggest they should have been rounded.
No, the jaws were sharp. Nothing on the human body (that's made of flesh, at least), is sharp, as in, comes to a distinct point. The same was true with their hats.

The depantsing scene Outlaws looked meh, as did the Clakker in the Phone Call FMV. But the first scene was excellent in my opinion. Really beautiful.

And Munch's Oddysey movie graphics were nowhere near as good as the SW ones. Look at Munch on the gurney, his texture is low-res and shallow, and the pads in the Vykker Lab are flat and 2 Dimensional. Now, the way the sand moved when Munch hopped along was impressive, but that's about it.

Anyway, they should (and will) use a movie-quality CGI. I really don't think we need to worry about how good this movie is going to look.

Oddish 12-26-2005 12:16 PM

Well doing a good CG movie can be hard work, and expensive. I know oddworld are talented people, and they are hard working, so they can create something special. Anyway, I hope it looks as good as 3D King Kong or the V-rex

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I thought it was quite clear that the jagged jaws the like of the Outlaws was actually the bone structure and not bad graphics

Well, nothing can be Jagged realy, if you think about it. Paper is flat right, but is it realy? This is what I'm trying to say, I think it's Jagged becuase of the low polygons used, that makes a difference to the shape.

Dark Elite_H2 12-26-2005 12:29 PM

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Ugh, god... hopefully not. Case in point- the Outlaws in the de-pantsing cutscene looked like in-game graphics, all jagged and unrefined, and the straps on their clothes looked painted on. And in the opening movie, as Stranger ran along the ground before the ribcage, he kept sinking into the ground.

If the company wants to be the first movie to get torn apart by movie reviewers, then yeah, I'd say that the SW graphics would be the place to start. If they really wanted to reach for the stars, then I'd say using movie-quality graphics would be the right choice. Munch's graphics were nearly there, but Stranger has a loooong way to go to look even remotely movie-like.

Well...not all of what I meant. I know what you meant byunredefined and that crap. That's not what I'm up fer. But...Cullan also has a point. Munch's Oddysee was the utmost perfect in redefined graphics. Nothing edgy or plain. That, would be sweet.

odd chick 12-26-2005 02:54 PM

I honestly can't believe that I missed this thread! This tells how long I've been gone, which was only about three days! :p But this is seriously the best thing I could hear! This is just great! I know that it will be really cool simply because it's an Oddworld movie, but I do have some of the concerns that Dave and Scrab Watcher had, such as not messing the movie up or it becoming a big flop like SMBs. Hey, it could happen with anyone! Not that I think that they will mess it up, but there's always a possiblility that something could go wrong. I know that OWI knows what they're doing when it comes to making films, so I'm not too worried about that. I'm just concerned at how the audience will react, honestly.

Now if they do use one of the characters/stories that we're familiar with from the games, (I'm not talking about making a movie FROM one of the games, I'm talking about using characters that we're familiar with from the games and somehow retelling the story in a more appealing way.) I think they should start with Abe so that everyone that has not seen Oddworld before will become familiar with it more easily. That is where the whole story started, after all, so the people that have at least heard of Oddworld before are bound to know about Abe a little more than Munch or Stranger. You'd be surprised at the people that I have talked to on other forums that had never heard of Oddworld, but as soon as I mentioned "Abe" they were like, "Oh, yeah! I remember now!" :p

By the way, I don't think any of the games' graphics should be used. I'm all for the movie-quality graphics. ;)

Leto 12-26-2005 03:07 PM

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Abe and Dark/evil crap dont go good together.
It was AO that had the best atmosphere; Not the oh-so-goofy AE/MO type thing, I just disliked that feeling as opposed to the origionals.

On the subject of game cutscenes vs. movie quality graphics: Have you actually looked at the game cutscenes? Although they are not the best, they are of a very high standard. AO's cutscenes were most definatley movie quality in their day.

odd chick 12-26-2005 03:10 PM

Yeah, I agree with that. When I played AO for the first time and saw the graphics I thought, "I can't believe this is a PS1 game!" because I was so impressed. But the thing is that I'm honestly not sure if the games graphics, as great as they are for videogame standards, would meet the standards of a film. But that's just me. But AO's graphics were amazing for its time.

Icarus 12-26-2005 03:34 PM

i was thinking about it, and if there was an oddworld movie, i might watch it about three times, even if say, i won't like it, i'll only watch it cause i'm a fan

Leto 12-26-2005 03:37 PM

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Yeah, I agree with that. When I played AO for the first time and saw the graphics I thought, "I can't believe this is a PS1 game!" because I was so impressed. But the thing is that I'm honestly not sure if the games graphics, as great as they are for videogame standards, would meet the standards of a film. But that's just me. But AO's graphics were amazing for its time.
Indeed, they are not exactly up to scratch today, but in it's time, they were super goods. I remember when I first saw AO; There was a large hardback poster of Abe at the video store, and I thought it was pretty nifty. Me and father hired AO and a PS1 console (crazily enough you could do that in those days), and after the one day of playing it we purchased it and a PS1 the next day, twas such a grand game.

Shrink 12-26-2005 04:10 PM

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AO's cutscenes were most definately movie quality in their day.
Again, nope.
Toy Story: First ever CGI movie, with a lot worse graphics than any since; released in 1995
Abe's Oddysee: released in 1997

There is a MASSIVE difference in graphics quality between these two, whether you can see or not.
OWI have never had movie-quality graphics. They're absoluetly great, really stunning, yes, but not movie quality. But then, they're games. They don't NEED movie quality graphics, and they would have been wasting their time and money if they pushed it the extra 100 miles to hit that quality.

Leto 12-26-2005 04:29 PM

Again? :confused:

Ok, ok, Mr. Movie presun, I'll leave it at they were damn good graphics, they was. However, Strangers cutscenes were extra-good, almost on their way to being movie standard.

Icarus 12-26-2005 04:46 PM

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Again, nope.
Toy Story: First ever CGI movie, with a lot worse graphics than any since; released in 1995
Abe's Oddysee: released in 1997

There is a MASSIVE difference in graphics quality between these two, whether you can see or not.
OWI have never had movie-quality graphics. They're absoluetly great, really stunning, yes, but not movie quality. But then, they're games. They don't NEED movie quality graphics, and they would have been wasting their time and money if they pushed it the extra 100 miles to hit that quality.

i didn't even read this shit too long, summon it up please.

Shrink 12-26-2005 06:22 PM

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Ok, ok, Mr. Movie presun, I'll leave it at they were damn good graphics, they was. However, Strangers cutscenes were extra-good, almost on their way to being movie standard.
Almost. ;)

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i didn't even read this shit too long, summon it up please.
**** you.

Nate 12-26-2005 06:32 PM

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OWI have never had movie-quality graphics. They're absoluetly great, really stunning, yes, but not movie quality. But then, they're games. They don't NEED movie quality graphics, and they would have been wasting their time and money if they pushed it the extra 100 miles to hit that quality.

I'm no expert but I'd say that their FMV graphics have been close to movie quality all along. Sure, there have been a few glitches that a little more time and money would have fixed but pobody's nerfect. In any case, reviews of Oddworld games often claim that the FMVs are movie quality.

Dipstikk 12-26-2005 06:47 PM

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i didn't even read this shit too long, summon it up please.

Understandable, seeing as how you can't seem to get through a sentence without ****ing it up.

"I didn't even read this shit, it's too long. Summorize it, please.

Icarus 12-26-2005 07:31 PM

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Understandable, seeing as how you can't seem to get through a sentence without ****ing it up.

"I didn't even read this shit, it's too long. Summorize it, please.


FUCK YOU!!!

MojoMan220 12-26-2005 10:43 PM

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OWI have never had movie-quality graphics.

Enough with all these references to "movie-quality graphics".

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is movie-quality, yet so is The Incredibles. A lot of what OWI has produced looks better than what audiences saw in The Incredibles, but could not even be compared to the anything in the Final Fantasy film.

Did the visuals in Final Fantasy save it from being a crappy movie, no. Did The Incredibles' far less impressive visuals make it fail at the box-office or in the critics' minds, no.

There is a minimum level of quality that is expected from audiences, but with a little extra polish, Oddworld already meets those expectations. That being said, I'm sure OWI will make a movie that is more graphically advanced then their previous efforts, it's just common sense.

Bottom line: People need to quit getting so worked up before we have anything solid.

Xavier 12-26-2005 11:42 PM

Icarus... sorry but that attitude is worth a WARNING!
I don't think anyone will disagree.

anyway as for the mood of the movies, Lorne said some time ago that if they made some the mood would be more like AO then MO...
Thus exactly what most of us want :D

Vegerich 12-27-2005 03:45 AM

YEEHHHH
 
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And Raymond Swanland is still working for them!!!



http://www.raymondswanland.com/Pages/Title01.html

I LOVE YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION :X
Edit:I´ve looked at the pics in the Gallery thats the same how there in my "The Art of Oddworld Inhabitans" book.

Icarus 12-27-2005 07:58 AM

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Icarus... sorry but that attitude is worth a WARNING!
I don't think anyone will disagree.

anyway as for the mood of the movies, Lorne said some time ago that if they made some the mood would be more like AO then MO...
Thus exactly what most of us want :D

sorry, but still thats not really worth a warning, common he was being an ass.

OANST 12-27-2005 08:27 AM

You are sure making friends fast here Icarus. Keep up the good work.

What worries me about an Oddworld movie isn't whether or not it will be good. I know it will. I'm afraid that it is going to fail if they stick to their guns and make more adult than the common fair. Look at MirrorMask. A beautiful c.g. film written by Neil Gaiman with the art of Dave McKean. The film was made by Jim Henson studios and yet they can not get it in theatres. It is playing in about ten small theatres in the U.S. but the chances of it getting wide release are very poor. I'm just afraid that the same thing is going to happen to Oddworld. My biggest fear is that the movie will fail and Lorne will decide to shut down completely.

Wil 12-27-2005 10:04 AM

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sorry, but still thats not really worth a warning, common he was being an ass.

And so were you. Someone else's behaviour does not justify your own. If you want to take up the issue further, learn to use PMs for off-topic discussion.

Fuzzleman54321 12-27-2005 12:01 PM

Horrah a Oddworld film!!!!!!!

Nate 12-27-2005 12:29 PM

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What worries me about an Oddworld movie isn't whether or not it will be good. I know it will. I'm afraid that it is going to fail if they stick to their guns and make more adult than the common fair. Look at MirrorMask. A beautiful c.g. film written by Neil Gaiman with the art of Dave McKean. The film was made by Jim Henson studios and yet they can not get it in theatres. It is playing in about ten small theatres in the U.S. but the chances of it getting wide release are very poor. I'm just afraid that the same thing is going to happen to Oddworld. My biggest fear is that the movie will fail and Lorne will decide to shut down completely.

You're missing the point here. Mirrormask didn't fail because it was challenging. It failed because the script was crap and it was savaged by the reviewers.

OANST 12-27-2005 12:38 PM

Have you seen the movie? Don't call it crap until you do.

Shrink 12-27-2005 01:36 PM

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Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is movie-quality, yet so is The Incredibles. A lot of what OWI has produced looks better than what audiences saw in The Incredibles, but could not even be compared to the anything in the Final Fantasy film.
Nothing OWI has produced looks comparable to anything in either The Incredibles, or Final Fantasy: Spirits Within.

For reference, people: What I have been saying is fact. The pre rendered cinematics OWI has produced are brilliant, but they have not been movie quality.

Oh, and The Incredibles does have graphics to match Final Fantasy - it definitely does. However, The Incredibles is a cartoon while Final Fantasy is going for the photo-realistic look. These looks do not dictate graphic quality.

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Did the visuals in Final Fantasy save it from being a crappy movie, no. Did The Incredibles' far less impressive visuals make it fail at the box-office or in the critics' minds, no.
I'm not saying they need movie-quality graphics to do fantastically well, I'm saying that haven't got movie-quality graphics in their current games.
They WILL have the right level of graphics, though, because they will be making for a movie, and not a game, and they will not be made by OWI, but outsourced.

Icarus 12-27-2005 04:28 PM

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And so were you. Someone else's behaviour does not justify your own. If you want to take up the issue further, learn to use PMs for off-topic discussion.

okay i apoligize to you and dippstick

Leto 12-27-2005 04:38 PM

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Nothing OWI has produced looks comparable to anything in either The Incredibles, or Final Fantasy: Spirits Within.
Sure, take two of the best CGI movies to compare with. :rolleyes:

Oddworld things aren't that movie quality, but they sure as hell beat the steaming shit pile CG movies that have come out recently: Madagascar, Valiant and all those other krappenfests.

odd chick 12-27-2005 04:39 PM

Yeah, I'll definitely agree with that.......Madagascar just looks like crap! Even the other things that's in it, such as the supposed "humor", seems to fall flat in that one because it's honestly not funny. :-/ And yeah, Valiant doesn't look so great, either, honestly. Oddworld is DEFINITELY better than those graphics-wise and even with all of the other content, such as characters and humor. ;)

Icarus 12-27-2005 04:40 PM

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Sure, take two of the best CGI movies to compare with. :rolleyes:

Oddworld things aren't that movie quality, but they sure as hell beat the steaming shit pile CG movies that have come out recently: Madagascar, Valiant and all those other krappenfests.

don't really like movies like that, thats why i'm looking forward to Halo the movie instead of an Oddworld movie.

Leto 12-27-2005 04:43 PM

http://www.siggraph.org/publications...148/png/02.png

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...052705_big.jpg

I say they most definatley compete. OWI could easily get away with a movie of that quality methinks.

metroixer 12-27-2005 04:44 PM

I never saw the new CG movies so I can't really say anything about them. Athough I can bet from first glance OWI CG movies beat them by a VERY long shot.

Icarus 12-27-2005 04:48 PM

AO had great graphics for a 2d game,but too make a movie so many years later, it'll blow all this other shit away.

MojoMan220 12-27-2005 06:44 PM

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Nothing OWI has produced looks comparable to anything in either The Incredibles

The Incredibles is not all that impressive graphically. Sure, it has that extra polish and higher resolution to hold up on a big screen, but that doesn't change the fact that the characters and most of the environments are very geometric.

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Oh, and The Incredibles does have graphics to match Final Fantasy - it definitely does.

No, no, no, no! :eeek:

oddguy 12-27-2005 07:03 PM

Looks like I arrived at this topic late.

This is really great news. I can't wait to see what OWI has in store.
Hopefully the movie will be wide-release so Oddworld would get good exposure.

And OWI is pretty smart for keeping Raymond Swanland around. In my opinion, he's one of the best artists out there.

I hope Lorne gives the Abe story a darker edge...
...it was dark before, but too many people didn't get the seriousness of the story due to Abe's flatulence.

-oddguy

Icarus 12-27-2005 07:28 PM

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I hope Lorne gives the Abe story a darker edge...
...it was dark before, but too many people didn't get the seriousness of the story due to Abe's flatulence.

-oddguy

that is what i wanna see in a movie darkness, besides abe had to see his friends get tortured, how bright of a movie can it really be.

Hope it ain't rated PG, i'm too old for that, even though i went to see finding nemo in theaters, oh well

Kimon 12-27-2005 07:42 PM

I'm pretty sure it's impossible to be too old for PG movie. BICH!

Anywaez, Oddworld is pretty, so is The Incredibles and Final Fantasy. Mmm-hmmm.

Icarus 12-27-2005 07:48 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's impossible to be too old for PG movie. BICH!

Anywaez, Oddworld is pretty, so is The Incredibles and Final Fantasy. Mmm-hmmm.

i'm not too old, am i. is 17 old.


o0hhh FUK i'm OLD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kamille 12-29-2005 06:56 PM

I hope this is true, but yes very good to hear something new from OWI, If its true I hope the movie is just like AO

Cullen Heath 12-29-2005 09:14 PM

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My biggest fear is that the movie will fail and Lorne will decide to shut down completely.

Shut up, shut up! Dont even go that far. Try not to think like that.


As for Oddworld having movie graphics, I would say they do.
Way better graphics then The Incredibles, by far.
Final Fantasy graphics, ehh, not quite there yet.
But I think Oddworld have movie graphics already. The Stranger's Wrath and Munch's Oddysee graphics were amazing. Hell, all four of the games' graphics were.

Dipstikk 12-30-2005 10:24 AM

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But I think Oddworld have movie graphics already. The Stranger's Wrath and Munch's Oddysee graphics were amazing. Hell, all four of the games' graphics were.

Will someone get this kid a pair of pom-poms, so he can actually be a cheerleader? Crap almighty.

The FMVs are nowhere near movie quality, especially not Abe's games. Lorne will most likely join forces with a professional CGI company, maybe hook up with his old buddies at ILM (all the better, actually, since they've produced some pretty near-lifelike graphics).

Cullen, stop treating Oddworld like a religion. I'm beginning to agree with Icarus, you start screaming and covering your ears at the very hint of someone saying something negative about Oddworld. Sure, we all like the games, that's why we're here. But the series does have a lot of faults (*coughbadvoiceactingcaugh*), just like every game on the market, and some of us would like to think that we can bring these up without someone like you telling us to stop. Freedom of speech and a right to an opinion, buddski.