I wasn't whining, I have every right to be unhappy about everything, because everything is flawed including my weight. Whiney I may occasionally be but it doesn't mean I don't have a reason. And what was completley vain? Most of what I said as well as the others didn't have a hint of vanity that I detected, actually, it was quite the opposite. Please point out what's vain.

Nothing in particular, it's just that most of the recent posts have been along the lines of "I'm too skinny" or "I'm too fat". Too skinny are the kids in Africa who die of malnutrition. Too fat are the Americans you see on TV who weigh 300 pounds or more and for whom it's an ordeal to move around and who die of heart disease in their middle years. I am, in general, against complaining about minor inconveniences when there are people with problems that are life-threatening.

They're complaining but it's not as if they think they're better, I don't think you understand the meaning of vain. Complaining about your looks isn't vain, claiming that your looks are better is. And though it may seem vain in that farfetched sense, it's really not, besides noone here said they were 'too' fat or 'too' skinny, they're simply implying that they would rather not be so.

Ehhhh okay. Still, I think we are moving away from the point of the thread.

So what, atleast it's a reasonable discussion and not a shitload of spam.

Unfortunately I am overweight. I used to complain about my weight, but now I just live with it. I've tried diet, excercise [although I could do with more, finding time is a problem for me] and nothing works. I've come to the conclusion that some people are naturally underweight and others are naturally overweight. I look at my family history and on my dad's side the family is more on the skinny side, but on my mum's side my family is on the overweight side. Out of the three siblings, two of us took after my mum, one of us took after my dad. We all ate the same food growing up, all had around the same amount of excersice, etc. Until I hit puberty I used to be really skinny also. So the only thing I can put it down to is hereditary.

You have a valid point there Raisin. But the thing is, try saying that to the little shit who calls you fat when you are down the street or the teen who thinks if a girl doesn't have a hot body, she's fat. Same with those who are under-weight. They get called anorexic or get told they need to eat something once in a while. If everyone understood like you do, then people wouldn't have complexity problems about their weight. To many a "fat" person is someone who is like 300 pounds and lives on burgers and fries all the time. But other people think that if you are just a little bit overweight then you are "fat". I had that very problem on this very forum one time, when a past member [banned now] got in my face and insulted me after myself and Pilot posted pictures during the OddTour a few years ago. It's for that very reason that I don't like posting pictures of myself online anymore. Even though I know most people aren't like that [I've received more compliments that negatives, but it's the negatives that stick out to you], it's hard when you think the internet is a place where you think you are accepted and can get away from all of that crap, but then it comes back at you.

Abe Babe...

I have one thing to say, I agree with the raisin

Ugh, yeah there are those people. :fuzmad:

Oddfan...

First and formost.. you're parents/care givers' behaviours is NOTHING to do personally with you or your behaviour. Never blame yourself for their actions.. they are people and adults their decisions are their own. Their behaviour may be wrong and hurtful.. its excellent that you have recognised this fact. If things get too bad their are options for seeking help... not only for you but also for your parents... they need help to stop them behaving in this way just as you need help to get through their behaviour.

My dad also drinks / drank... if you wanna pm me... I'm here Mon-Friday 8-5 British time!

This is really hard... unsure what to say other than to try to make the most of the time you have left with sight. Being partially sighted / blind in the modern age is not as deabilitating as it once was. I went to uni with a blind and also a profoundly deaf student... both girls were studying for a degree, went to the bars and were really well adjusted people.

Kids/teens can be cruel... I was bullied at school too. Differences whether positive or negative is the only cause for it. what I did is try to think of my differences as a positive thing.. like I was fat... but it meant I matured quicker than the other girls in my class so while they were still flatter than an ironing board in the chest dept I had a rather nice 34B cleavage! Don't let the b*stards get you down... then they've won... its easy to say but honestly this kind of experinces only make us stronger.

Your height... looking at your profile OF I can see you're 14... a boys greatest spurt in growth usually happens after this and blokes can keep on growing til they're 21! My ex was 5ft2 until he was 16.. I saw the photos.. his mum was taller than him! By the time he was 18 he had spurted an extra foot... and is now a not to be sniffed at 6ft1! There's plenty of time yet... don't worry about it just yet.

I am sure you're not stupid. I'm a qualified teacher and your sensitive post doesn't portray a stupid individual. It does show someone under great strain and stress and these factors can contribute to low accademic acheivement. I know it may be hard but try and talk to a teacher you trust or the school counsellor about your feelings.. then maybe your teachers will understand why you're not doing so well and perhaps help you emotionally and accademically. I know I would want to help you in any way I can.

Again OF... looking at you're profile you are 14. Although you sound very advanced and mature emotionally for your age your peers may not be. Although you may be ready for a girlfried and commitmant the girls you have feelings for may just still want to hang around the mall complaining about boys and how stupid they are not how much they fancy them. There is plenty of time for you to get a girlfriend... I didn't have my first boyfriend til I was 17!!! (Don't laugh! :D ) I now the presure o your medical condition must make you feel like you need to cram everything in right now but like I say a disability is no longer a disability in the modern age.

Hope this helps... didn't quite know what to say... if you want to talk further pm me... anytime... I will get back to you.

Remeber you're not alone.. you have all of us here.

Claire xxx

Oddfan it aint so bad.In the future they may have some to help blindness.If not that atleast you'll have a big giant dog ready bite anyone who makes fun of you for the rest of yer life.It must be hell though knowing that everything in the world will vanish from yer eyes in 16 years.It doesnt matter if yer blind as long as yer kind you can make friends

p.s.Watchout before hobo steals the dog so he can laugh at people dying

Claire, that was great. I hope my teachers next year are like you.

:blush:

Thanks Raisin... :kiss:

Shinjara and sligslinger! This is a forum about the saddest thing of your life and your talking about your weight! It doesn't matter how much you weigh as long as you don't look it. Your just trying to hurt my feelings as Shinjara is older than me and weighs 60 more pounds than me! And Sligslinger is one inch taller than me! It's not fair! This is the saddest moment of my life! You might even be more inttelligent than me! You may be smarter, but I've got more cunning than both of you put together! HAHAHAHAHAHA! :p :p :p

Looking at the way you spelled "intelligent", I'd say there is absolutely no danger of Shinjara or Sligslinger ever being less intelligent than you.

Or anyone else for that matter.

Including my cat. :happy:

Sorry. I rushed that post. But I mean for god's sake sligslinger! You set a rabbit on fire? That's disgusting! But I suppose you couldn't help it. *Hugs Sligslinger* *Stabs Sligslinger in the back while hugging*

Okay I'll be serious, my cat ran away years ago and didn't come back. And I've been permanently pissed off ever since. And Oddfan, thats true keep trying! Don't give up. And if you and your girlfriend were seperated thats just out of order you shouldn't take that lightly mate.. It was Oddfan who got separated right? Or am I just talking to the completly wrong person?

Bah.

Rushed or not, you're still less intelligent. ;)

Goddamnit! Drop the rabbit thing before I break my foot off in your ass! I know it was sadistic, I know it was cruel, I know all that rot! I explained my reasons for doing what I did so just shut up!

As of me being smarter. Yes. Yes I am smarter than the average smarter average guy.

I go nuts like sligslinger aswell.If you annoy too far in this forum Ill have to get a new pc cos the other ....well wont be in good shape