A gay man can be married with children and has never had sex with another man, and is still considered homosexual. Homosexuality isn't defined by sexual activity, but rather sexual attraction. The gay man in my scenario is in denial, he doesn't want to acknowledge these feelings so he's hiding amongst a conventional relationship that will leave him sad and unfulfilled for the rest of his life.

WOw, Jacob..foolish idiot Jacob. I'm enjoying reading and laughing at it. Anymore theories or excuses? I mean, where have you been in the past three to four years? Getting married to the same sex is not outlawed in some countries. It is in some states in the United States but they probably made a compromise or something. Bi-sexual is when you date both sexes yo. it's not you date a sex, quit dating it and then move to a gay. read the dictionary. So in general, what are you trying to say because I really don't get what you are adjusting to. It just proves that not everyone is born gay yo. That sounds ridiculous to me. And when a straight man sleep with a man he is considered "a closet gay". Have you ever heard of a closet gay?

Yeah. We discussed it on MSN and I discovered he wasn't a homophobe.

1. Actually, as Sydney has already said, sexuality is based on sexual attraction.

2. He is considered a 'closet gay' by some people. He isn't necessarily a 'closet gay' though.

Kai, why would you not be flattered to discover that a gay man fancied you? You would be flattered if a woman you were not attracted to fancied you, so why not a man? Surely it means the same thing - that you are good-looking...

Yes it does. i would simply say thatnks but im not gay. i mean a compliment is a compliment. i was trying to refer to crossing the line, as in physicaly. i shold have been more clear. so i have no problem with the compliment.:fuzsmile: its just if anything comes more then that then i will not like it.

Whereabouts would you draw the line, then?

(1) - I'm a idiot? 'Scuse me start your sentences properly before calling me that.

(2) - Im glad.

(3) - Yes. One Excuse - Evolution was a test by God. One Theory - God exists and good people go to him when they die.

(4 & 5) - In England. Were, last i checked, it was illegal. I apologise for not knowing other countries standpoints.

(6) - Good for them?

(7) - Could you please state what you were referring to as i cannot be bothered to read through my blabber.

(8) - Ok?

(9) - I shall have a more complex conclusion at the bottom.

(10) - Some people may call it being born gay, some people may say you have more female hormones/chromosones/genes. Choose whatever floats your boat.

(11) - God is ridiculous to 99% of the world. Whats your point?

(12) - Its complex.

(13) - Yes.

Ok...my conclusion. Last night i saw a programme called 'Future Sex' it was basically about Women with penis' and vice versa. It mainly stated that sexuality is IMMENSLY complex. Some guys say they are straight but would sleep with a woman who had a penis and vice versa. You cannot have Straight, Bisex, Gay anymore. Now there are more inbetweens. This is what i meant by it being complex, Pinky, if you want to get a straight answer go to a Gay guy and ask him about his views. Your bro is obviously very confused and says that he is trying to 'Spice' up his sexlife to avoid saying "I am attracted to both sexes."

Didn't i say that in my last batch of blabber. About cherry pickers and so on and so forth? Im totally confused. Why cant it be like the early 90's. Where Gays were gays and straights were straights and Bi's were Bi's. Gawwwwd!! Damn Closets coming up with new names to call themselves so they can except themselves.

I feel jealous of bisexuals. They have the best of both worlds.

I'd be worried about going out with a bisexual. They'd be twice as likely to cheat on me. :)

That's funny. Did you make that up yourself? Btw ZX, your new banner is a big improvement.

We also have about two times the amount of potential partners as hetrosexuals or homosexuals. *grin*

I prefered the old one.

I think there may a reason you preferred it. I can't quite put my finger on it. I know it starts with a "you're" and ends with an "a bisexual" but beyond that I have no clue.

Basically there is no such thing as "Bisexuality" its just greediness.

And there is no such thing as "Homosexuality" its just laziness.

And there is no such thing as "Heterosexuality" its just un-adventurousness.

So we are all basically living by these 'Labels' which dont exist. Just because some guy walked up and said;

"Hey, your man holding a mans hand...and your happy...HAHAHAHAHAA...i'm gonna call you GAY from now on!!"

&

"Hey, your a woman holding a womans hand...and your happy AND sat on a Dam. I'm gonna call you a DYKE from now on...HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!"

&

"Hey, your a guy holding a womans AND a mans hand...and your happy AND on a bike. I'm gonna call you...a Bicycle!! HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!"

Which after time turned to "Bisexual"...obviously

Anyways, times are changing. Homophobes are already dying out. I have friends in yr 8 who are openly saying they are Bisexual. With kids hitting Puberty early with every generation soon the Homophobes will be jumping on the townie band wagon, drinking earlier and dying of liver poisoning earlier...YEY!! And that'll leave the one's who except and the one's who are who they are. I sooooo cant way.

1. Sorry, I was being sarcastic, your not an idiot.

2. You should be.

3. Yeah, some countries it has not been outlawed yet or is going to.

5. Ha, that's not even a real theory that's your own theory. Theories that are known dude.

6. Yup.

7. I was just basically talking about what bisexual is.

8. it's good for you yo.

11. Nope wrong, also this does not go to the sentence I was talking about yo!

12. Not really.

13. sure.

Nope, my brother is not confused he's just that way and strange. And yes, I asked my old boyfriend (he's gay now) why he was gay and he said it's all about being laid. I mean, I found mags of gay men in his back trunk of his car. And he told me that he wanted to be gay but he was afraid too because he thinks that guys would look at him weird and call hims a weirdo. Sooooo, explain that yo! Mwahaahha!

Zombie, I liked your old banner much better.

Edo, shut up.

Pinky, you know some really, really, IMMENSLY weird gays. When you asked...did you actually suggest that it may be about getting laid? Such as;

"Hey, you know your gay right? Well...were you born like that or is it just cos you want to get laid? yo."

Cos then its your fault they're saying that. Pinky, go to a gay chat room and ask. Im sure they will prove my point alot more than your twisted closets will. I have just asked 5 gays and they said "Born" one even put "Do you think id choose to be attracted to men and have stuff put up {Censored} ?"

Which is a good point. So your friend is obviously a little cautious of telling you...why? Cos he isn't completly comfortable about his sexuality. U probably intimidate every gay you meet Pinky and so they're like;

"Well...the Gay porn isn't mine...its, like, my evil twin bro's...yo."

and your like;

"Thats good, yo. Cos gays go to Hell, yo. And they are all ewwy and stuff, yo. They make me sick, yo. So...lets talk about God!!"

Ok, I'll shut up. But the old banner was a man, right? If not, well, I'll just shut up.

Sure you didn't turn him? ;)


Nice work on those 'yo's, Chris.

I thought I was right about what you were trying to say, Edo. It looked female to me.

No it's not, he said that on his own so did my brother. They just told me and I was like okay, why are you telling me this? What you say out of your own mouth is your fault, not the other person unless that person had something to do what the person is saying.

They are just confused gay men, making excuses for themselves so the guys they want to date can date them and have pity on them. You do hear gays saying "well, this is the life I want to live!" Do you watch television talk shows?

He was curious about telling other people can you read dude? he told me that he had a surprise for me and to look into his car trunk. I looked and he had magazines about gay men and I was like I don't get it and he said that he wants to be gay and not be a bisexual because he fells he will get better sex. I was like, okay whatever. And I really listen to people who talk about they are gay, unlike you who would probably shut people off and talk about how many guys you slept with.

Wow, I never knew ouy stereotype christians. I don't condemn

Also Gluk, I did not turn him gay. I thought you said it was a "born" thing, now your contradicting yourself and saying that people can encourage other people to become gay?

2. I. Was. Joking. On seeing #1, maybe I wasn't. :D

(1) - Pinky, i believe i speak for the whole Gay population when i say "You are a very hairy and intimidating person to us. Please, please, please do not look at us with those cold, harsh Christian eyes. Please."

(2) - They are telling you cos your their friend...obviously not a very good one. When you saw the gay porn you should of feigned enthusiasm...such as "WOWIE!! You like reading aswell!!"

(3) - Not true.

(4) - Ever heard of suggesting things? A person can do that without knowing. And a person can subconciously pickup on that and say what the other wants to hear.

(1) - Yes, your brother and ex are. I totally agree.

(2) - Yes, they are making excuses for themselves. Better sex indeed...Pah!!

(3) - I dont think a straight guy would date a gay guy out of pity somehow.

(4) - Damn you Pinky...with that pointless remark you have slain me. (Sarcasm)

(5) - Yes. I do not believe most of them. But i do watch them.

(1) - Yes...theres 'Curious' and then theres 'Telling people'. Its like, hey. I am really curious about taking Drugs. But you dont take them do you? So why does that mean just cos he was curious he would tell?

(2) - You may have missed the small, black box with the ring inside. You dirty girl.

(3) - Yeh...your eyes went from the wedding ring to the gay porn. I know what your like you little rascal.

(4) - There's 'wanting' to be gay and then there's 'being gay'.

(5) - And did he CHOOSE to be Bisexual? Since he was Bisex it leads me to believe he has been with both sexes. He obviously was more inclined to the same sex but that doesn't really mean he is full on gay. He just has homosexual tendencies.

(6) - I'm sure you do. I honestly believe that, really. And what do you talk about afterwards when the whole of 50 seconds is over?

(7) - Yes. I do that quite frequently...So, there i was. With this guy who was making eyes at me across the room *Trails off*

No, you create them.

There are some cases when a guy goes with a woman, that woman traumatises him so much he is repulsed by the opposite sex for the rest of his life.

what's the problem with bisexuals? except jealousy? They have the most fortunate sexual orientation on the planet. :)

and if you like the last sig, or the current one, you can check out shit loads more at:
http://zombiex.freeservers.com/home/sig

*grins* :D

Right on. Bis have the whole sexual buffet, and twice the chance of getting nookie! I think the best way to put it was when Dennis Miller told them to "pick a hole to **** and stick with it!"

That could just as easily apply to hetro and homosexuals.

1- Wow Jacob, You really are an idiot. what did I just tell you about not caring if you are gay or not. You are mad grimy. Besides, their are Christians who are gay too, but they are not really christians. So before you judge and stereotype people, know the facts.

2- Better friends then you would ever have. Plus, I don't want to read them, I'm not gay nor do I want to be. You don't want to be a heterosexual, fine.

3- Yeah it is, people are going to think those are your words. People are not going to say "he's saying because of blah, blah". Take responibility of your own actions.

**Second**

1- Yes, and it's just you can't read well.

2- No, I was talking about those gay men on the internet you were talking about.

3- Well that's you! You don't know what other people are going to think, stop making excuses.

4- No, you made slow to understand stuff.

5- Sure

**Third**

1- I dunno, his choice his life

2- Whatever yo.

3- LOL! You slay me!!

4- Again, another excuse.

5- Sure

7- of course. *dirty boy*

Not true

Wow, that's a lie. Then he's not born gay then. He choose to do that.

Pinky, you are obviously delusional. Just because two guys you know 'Chose' to be Gay/Bisex doesn't mean the entire gay pop chose to be how they would. Thats just an excuse.

(I should have said that straight away.)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jacob
[B]Pinky, you are obviously delusional. Just because two guys you know 'Chose' to be Gay/Bisex doesn't mean the entire gay pop chose to be how they would. Thats just an excuse.



Delusional, please. Doesn't mean that everyone you meet say that they are so-called born gay. I'm just saying, they probably are just saying that so men or women could feel sorry for them and date them, because they can't help it. I just find that an excuse and being born gay does not make sense to me. I can see you born as a male or as a female that makes sense but being born gay does not to me.

It doesn't have to. Its a fact. Animals are gay, do they chose to? Animals basically have the instinct to reproduce...i dont believe they can do that with another male/female animal...do u?

Pink, your rigid definitions of gender seem to be confining your definition of homosexuality. Define sex (as in either male or female), then we can get an accurate definition of homosexuality.

The truth is that the line between male and female isn't clearly cut. If you rely on chromosomes to define male and female, then you're forgetting about people with XXY chromosomes, or people with androgen insensitivity syndrome. Someone with androgen insensitivity syndrome has XY male chromosomes, but the physical appearance and psychological identification of a female - however, they lack a womb and are infertile. Is a man who has intercourse with someone with AIS a homosexual? If you rely on physical characteristics only, then you're ignoring those with AIS, as well as intersexed people born with ambiguous genitalia.

These variations within something as simple as gender leads the logical thought that the same aberrations occur within sexuality, as science is only just beginning to discover.

Note: people with androgen insensitivity syndrome always have the appearance of a female, and the instance of sexual attraction to other females among these people is 0%. Scientists believe this is because there has been absolutely no exposure to testosterone, so the brain, along with the body, develops as a female while inside the womb, despite having male chromosomes.

And it's not a fact it's an opinion. Animals don't know better and they are waaaaay different from humans because they cannot reason, just like they can't convert to vegetarianism. We as humans know better.

Ah, whatever i don't care anymore this is boring...peace out.

Oh, they can't? I beg to differ. Just because you have strong feelings against homosexuality, does not mean it is a universal standard. As far as I can tell, you have yet to see as such. :rolleyes: