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Sydney 07-12-2001 02:05 PM

What's the difference between sign language communication and verbal communication? Other than the medium, I can see none.

Pinkhaired, why would a monkey need to make a decision for free parking? They do reason within a realm applicable to their environment. Chimps can recognize themselves in mirrors, proving that they are sentient beings. I'm not sure of the details, but an experiment was performed with a group of chimpanzees in which a banana was hung from the ceiling in a room of several chimps. Whenever a chimp tried to take the banana, they would be automatically sprayed with water. After several tries, they stopped attempting to take the banana. This in itself displays reasoning. But it doesn't stop there. A new chimp was introduced into the room. Not knowing the consequences of trying to take the banana, it made an attempt. Before the chimp could try, the other chimps jumped up and down screaming, grabbing the new chimp. Clearly, the others were saying "Don't do that." The new chimp gave up and learned that it was wrong to take the banana. Now is the exciting part. Each time they introduced a new chimp, they removed one who knew that taking the banana was wrong. Eventually, a complete rotation had occured and none of the chimps had actually seen the consequences of trying to take the banana, but the reactions of the other animals was a clear "no."

One, Two, Middlesboogie 07-12-2001 02:05 PM

:

Parrots only imitate,
Actually Pink, scientists have shown that some African grey parrots have the IQ of a four year-old human, and can actually converse intelligently with people, up to a point.

And if we are not animals, what are we? There are five Kingdoms of living things:
Animalia (multi-cellular animals)
Plantae (all plants including seaweeds, and including all algae except blue-greens)
Fungi (fungi, including uni-cellular yeasts but not slime moulds)
Protista/Protoctista: (protozoa, diatoms, dinoflagellates, slime moulds, and various other lower organisms with eukaryotic (nucleus-possessing) cells)
Monera (all prokaryotes (non-nucleus-possessing): bacteria, cyno-bacteria and blue-green algae)

We are definitely alive, so we must fit into one of those. We are so complex as to be obviously eukaryotic, and there is no way we are plants, fungi or protistics, so we must be animals. It is true that there are some genuses and even some orders that contain only one life-form, but to have an entire kingdom containing just humans would be madness.

Melvin:squeeking paramite 07-12-2001 02:41 PM

I'm not going to write too much on the reasoning topic but I would just like to say that I did a report on octopuses and they can reason very good. if you waant details you can ask me.

glukkon_daniel 07-12-2001 03:18 PM

This whole argument between Pinkhaired and Sidney is actually pretty funny because Pinkhaired refuses to believe that humans are animals (which we are), but also refuses to support her argument with facts.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-12-2001 03:30 PM

what ever humans are not animals and if you actually read (if you can read) I did support my facts.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-12-2001 03:31 PM

So stop talking Daniel, let's see if you have any proof if Humans are really animals, it can't be proven. Sydman is not Bill Nye the Science Guy, which Bill Nye is a fruit and I get sick of my lil' bro watching him every saturday morning! Mr. Daniel Buster Brown!LOL. are you in Biology? If it's proven maybe i would believe it, that is not facts what sydman said, he just said the classification and stuff. I find it very cooky and weird.

It's like back then, when people thought that the earth was flat and perfectly round, well it's not, it's an oblate speroid, bulgy at the equator and slighty flatten at the poles. It could be proven because Observations in Space and altitude of Polaris. We just assume it. Like we assume the universe was made by an explosion and stuff. it sounds abit iffy, but some people believe in it I don't mind. Let's not get Galieo or Copernicus up in here! LOL :D :D :D :D. This is not Scooby Doo World and Scrappy Too! LOL

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

DarkHoodness 07-12-2001 08:47 PM

*Sees that Pinkhaired is being dumb once again and walks off to have his vegie frankferters in a bowl of baked beans. . .*
- DH

Dakkan Blackblade 07-12-2001 09:57 PM

Dude, why is sid always editing my posts! Why don't you e-mail me and let ME do it!

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-12-2001 11:09 PM

okay, I'm going to get a bit rowdy...

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-12-2001 11:12 PM

Darkhood, don't get me started and you should not talk especially. Your pretty dumb calling people dumb which you dont know. You talk all this crap on the net but do you have the guts to say it in front of people's faces. No wonder your just a mean man thingy!So gag me. You better be lucky I did'nt blow up on you more because it's that time a month again. Yeah, that's right! PMS Baby! Bwahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!! :mad:

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 02:05 AM

Heh-heh. You're just playing around to piss everyone off again, aren't ya? Like that time when we had that argument about the sea turtles getting thier organs removed whilst still alive.
Hey everyone, lets say we just ignore her, okay?
- DH
(Edit: This post didn't make sence, so I changed it)

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: Dark Hood ]

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 02:22 AM

Oh, and remember:
If I have the guts to help fight stupid local autorities, and a big housing comapany, then I have the guts to fight you.
*Narrows eyes*

Bladewing: "Oooooohhhh! Who's being a dangerous little boy, eh?"

*Dark Hood quickley turns around*

DH: "Huh? What the hell are you doing here?!" *Frowns* "You're not even supposed to be here!! This isn't even an RPG topic!" *Points to the door* "Get out!!"

*Bladewing turns around and heads for the door*

Bladewing: "Well, if you start a fight and get in trouble, don't blame me, okay?"

*He exits. Dark Hood resumes frowning at Pinkhaired*
- DH

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 02:40 AM

get over yourself darkhood. I mean, you must be sick to beat up girls and get mad at some cramed cats? Make up your mind!

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

glukkon_daniel 07-13-2001 03:09 AM

Pinkhaired, there really is no point in arguing with you, as you refuse to admit to a PROVEN FACT. You say you support your argument with facts, but when I looked over it, I couldn't find one single thing remotely resembling a fact that supported your argument. So if you say you supported your argument with facts, why don't you be so kind as to copy and paste them?

Sidney, however, DID support his argument with facts, which you refuse to believe. Your argument has gotten so desperate that it has reached the point where you go so far as to say, "A long time ago, people thought the earth was flat, but it wasn't, so humans are not animals." This is by far the WORST argument for something that I have ever heard in my life. While you're at it, why not just go on to argue that the hoki fish is not a fish?

Humans are mammals. Mammals are animals. Therefore, humans are animals. Also, as Sidney said before (I copied and pasted this), animals are any multicellular organism of the kingdom animalia, differing from plants in certain typical characteristics such as capacity for locomotion, nonphotosynthetic metabolism, pronounced response to stimuli, restricted growth, and fixed bodily structure. Also, as Sidney said before, we fit this description.

Pinkhaired, we could probably get ten biologists to tell you that humans are animals and you still wouldn't believe it. We could show you solid proof, including the definition of animal, that humans are animals, and STILL you wouldn't believe us. *cough*stubborn*cough* But then you expect us to believe that humans are not animals, when all you have is that God did not mention it at the beginning of time, and that people thought the earth was flat a long time ago.

I'm sorry, Pinkhaired, but YOU ARE WRONG.

glukkon_daniel 07-13-2001 03:11 AM

And DH, why did you fight authorities and a housing company?

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 03:11 AM

Who said anything about me beating you up?

A: Phyisical voilence to other people is impossible over the internet.

B: Within reason, I won't attack and hurt any living thing (even plants) unless it hurts me first or is about to hurt me.

C: What difference would it make if you weren't a girl? If you had the same personality, I'd still treat you the same.

D: That cramed kitten thing made me pissed, and who woudn't get pissed about it wether it was a joke or not?
- DH

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 03:17 AM

Sorry, that previous post was in reply to Pinkhaireds, but I took so long over it the Daniel had time to post before me.
*Applauds Daniel*
Quite right!! Well done. :)

As for why I fought (and still am) fighting a housing company and a local council, it's a long story. Shall I proceed?
- DH

glukkon_daniel 07-13-2001 03:24 AM

Yes. Proceed.

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 03:32 AM

Okay, I won't go into details, but What happend is this:
Hmmm. . . actaully, I'm too tired right now, sorry. I'll do it tomorrow when I am more awake. *Yawn* I'm off to bed. 'Night all.
- DH

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 08:02 AM

eew, that kitten thing was a joke? That's awful!

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 08:27 AM

Hey wait a minute, you never hurt a plant/flower? impossible! What is stepping on grass? You had to pick flowers for your mother on mother's day one time in your life or tear off the petals saying "he/she loves me, he/she loves me not. If not, wow then, your are so mother nature or mother nature boy.

One, Two, Middlesboogie 07-13-2001 01:02 PM

If you wanted to never harm animals or plants, what would you eat? Mushrooms and other fungi are neither plants nor animals, but there's no way you could live on them alone.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 03:34 PM

yeah, you need to eat meat for protein and stuff. Just living on just fruits and vegatables is not good. Well, it's good, but you need the nutrients from meat.

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 03:51 PM

Hey, I said WITHIN REASON, okay? That means I wouldn't hurt a plant for no reason at all, unless it was an accident.
- DH

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Dark Hood ]

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 03:55 PM

Further more, I have been a vegitarian for most of my life, and am I still alive and well? Yes. The only meat I eat is fish, but very rarely, and if you ask me, being caught in a net and suffocating to death is better then going through a typical slaughter process.
- DH

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 04:04 PM

Yeah, I know alot of vegatarians and they don't seem too healthy to me.

Is that you on your sig Dark Hood?

DarkHoodness 07-13-2001 04:13 PM

Yes, that is a bad photo of me on my sig.

*Needs to take a better photo of himself to replace it*

Well, I'm very healthy, thankyou very much. Heck, I even have no thyroid glands either. Yet, I still remain with very good health. Th reason I'm not very fit is because I don't take enough excercise, not because of my diet. Infact, I can run quite fast quite a way.
- DH

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 04:21 PM

See, that's the problem, You need to excersis to allow the vegetables work faster in your body. It's best to eat a good diet and excersis too. A girl wanted to lose weight, and she became a vegatarian and she looked horrible.

Melvin:squeeking paramite 07-13-2001 04:23 PM

Pink, just in case you don't know, he is a vegetarian because he feels animals shouldn't die for humans. He isn' just doing it to look healthy.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 07-13-2001 04:25 PM

Who said something like that?


DarkHood, did you ever eat one animal? So you believe eating animals is wrong?