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Xorlidyr 02-14-2017 02:53 PM

Neither am I. Yet the two main candidates are much more cool-headed than you.

Lord Vhazen 02-14-2017 10:19 PM

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Neither am I. Yet the two main candidates are much more cool-headed than you.

I have like, the coolest fucking head of all. It's shiny.

kjjcarpenter 02-15-2017 10:00 AM

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I have like, the coolest fucking head of all. It's shiny.

I change my vote to Lord Vhazen. His shiny head has cajoled me.

MrsKJJ 02-15-2017 10:29 AM

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Don't vote third party, you're wasting a vote!

This is thread is starting to sound eerily similar to something recent... I feel like all we need is a candidate that is universally hated for his provocative comments.


Sybil Ant 02-15-2017 10:05 PM

I vote for Nate.

Nate 02-15-2017 10:38 PM

I vote for people no longer voting for FC mods and instead making suggestions for Global Mods. Preferably ones who are active in OD, OT, and FC.

Lord Vhazen 02-15-2017 10:47 PM

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I vote for people no longer voting for FC mods and instead making suggestions for Global Mods. Preferably ones who are active in OD, OT, and FC.

So like...trash this thread and start a new one? :D
I still vote Manco.

Xorlidyr 02-16-2017 12:13 AM

Manco is way too opinionated.

Varrok 02-16-2017 12:27 AM

With all due respect, I don't think Manco is a good choice for a moderator, so is Vlam.

Lord Vhazen 02-16-2017 12:52 AM

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Manco is way too opinionated.

Everyone is opinionated. It's how you act on that that matters though - and personally I don't see him as the type to abuse power and delete someone's post because it says something he disagrees with, or use his title to boost his arguments like some kind of power-hungry maniac. Personally, I vote him because it takes a lot of dedication to post walls as giant and thorough as his. And when in an argument, he doesn't just go off and randomly insult the other person or anything. He seems like the type who would actually give a shit about the job.

As for Vlam, I'm not sure why everyone keeps voting him. No offense to him - he seems like an okay guy, but I guess I just haven't seen much of him. He seems like he usually just posts one or two sentences at a time, most of the time. I don't really know much about his character. I feel like most votes for him are just joke votes.

Xorlidyr 02-16-2017 03:50 AM

Manco is WAY too opinionated. She is radical.

Vlam is a masque. He is not real.

Whom I find more fitting is you, Lord Vhazen. You do not yet have the taint of OWF running in your blood.

Lord Vhazen 02-16-2017 04:03 AM

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Manco is WAY too opinionated. She is radical.

Vlam is a masque. He is not real.

Whom I find more fitting is you, Lord Vhazen. You do not yet have the taint of OWF running in your blood.

She's a she? Well that's news to me. Oops. >.>;

"Radical" seems a bit harsh and biased, honestly. But perhaps I'm biased because I've simply agreed with what I've seen from her, and considered her the victor of a few arguments. Regardless, this shouldn't matter if she's mature enough to put her "radical views" aside and apply her mod-face when necessary. I have yet to see her senselessly attack people for no reason, and I haven't seen any indicators that she'd be the type to abuse authority. Like I said - having opinions is one thing. Acting on them is another.

She just seems like a good personality to me. To each his own I suppose. But you also seem a bit hostile towards Havoc, who actually used to be a mod, soooo idk how much to trust your assessments. Who knows - maybe Fennec or Jaydee are better candidates - I haven't seen much of either of them to judge.

Also, while flattered, I don't think I deserve any kind of authority here. I am but a simple tadpole. I haven't even had 100 posts yet. Though I have /secretly/ been here since the ancient times, since like 2003.... I don't think my years of experience as a lurker sum up to a very charismatic character. I'm more of the cunning snitch-mole survivalist type who would suck up to the nearest source of power rather than police the forums - but I would hold the responsibility high at least, and though I don't have much faith in my own ability, a few shitposters and multis shouldn't be too much to handle.

kjjcarpenter 02-16-2017 05:09 AM

Nobody knows what Manco is; he's very introverted, which I think leaves some people feeling uneasy. It's hard to trust something you can't really fathom. :confused:

I actually wouldn't mind Vlam as a moderator, for the same reasons MrsKJJ pointed out. He knows how to navigate this forum; he's tough but fair, and I think he walks a fairly neutral line for the most point, tending to be objective and base his observations upon evidence as opposed to his own personal thoughts and concerns.

He won't be selected though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nepsotic 02-16-2017 05:46 AM

Manco is a dude.

Also, I'd make a good mod.

Xorlidyr 02-16-2017 05:52 AM

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Nobody knows what Manco is; he's very introverted, which I think leaves some people feeling uneasy. It's hard to trust something you can't really fathom. :confused:

I actually wouldn't mind Vlam as a moderator, for the same reasons MrsKJJ pointed out. He knows how to navigate this forum; he's tough but fair, and I think he walks a fairly neutral line for the most point, tending to be objective and base his observations upon evidence as opposed to his own personal thoughts and concerns.

He won't be selected though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vlam is not a real person...

Vlam 02-16-2017 06:25 AM

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. No offense to him - he seems like an okay guy, but I guess I just haven't seen much of him. He seems like he usually just posts one or two sentences at a time, most of the time. I don't really know much about his character. I feel like most votes for him are just joke votes.

Well, you sure seem to be a nice kid who posts walls of texts... Yet you have nothing of substance to say. Nobody is perfect.

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My vote goes for Vlam. In all honesty, I think he makes some very intelligent observations, and while he's brutally honest at times, I don't think he's harsh. He also has very good forum navigational skills; he can find relevant posts at the drop of a hat.

Do you want to be my campaign manager, MrsKJJ?

Phoetux 02-16-2017 09:58 AM

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Do you want to be my campaign manager, MrsKJJ?

You want her to be your manager due to the good things she said about you?

kjjcarpenter 02-16-2017 10:32 AM

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You want her to be your manager due to the good things she said about you?

No, probably because she's actually a good business manager. :spin:

Lord Vhazen 02-16-2017 03:55 PM

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Well, you sure seem to be a nice kid who posts walls of texts... Yet you have nothing of substance to say.


....I'M CHANGING MY ASSESSMENT OF VLAM TO THE WORST FUCKING PERSON ALIVE ON THE FORUMS

No one ever vote for him! He's a tyrant and a liar and he must be destroyed!

Nate 02-16-2017 09:35 PM

So basically I'm concluding from this thread that everyone on the forum is shit and no-one deserves to be a mod. Not even me.

Xav is pretty good, though.

Slog Bait 02-16-2017 11:02 PM

Sounds legit

Also, after careful consideration, I think I'd be okay with JayDee as a global mod, too. As long as the person is on here often and has a level head, whether or not they post a lot is irrelevant. I think he's one of the only people on this site that has no personal prejudices, and would actually put the effort in to moderate. Also also, he volunteered.

Lord Vhazen 02-16-2017 11:38 PM

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Sounds legit

Also, after careful consideration, I think I'd be okay with JayDee as a global mod, too. As long as the person is on here often and has a level head, whether or not they post a lot is irrelevant. I think he's one of the only people on this site that has no personal prejudices, and would actually put the effort in to moderate. Also also, he volunteered.

Okay so after all said and done, your vote is Jaydee now? God this is getting confusing...

Why don't we all just agree from now one that all candidates from the past have the potential to be global mods at this point because really, I don't see much of a difference it'd make.

Vlam 02-16-2017 11:44 PM

J_Dude320 is part of a circlejerk.

STM 02-17-2017 01:13 AM

Vlam jerks me in a circular motion.

Varrok 02-17-2017 01:33 AM

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So basically I'm concluding from this thread that everyone on the forum is shit and no-one deserves to be a mod. Not even me.

That's a weird conclusion, considering the fact the main candidates hardly spoke here, not to mention spoke shit :p

STM 02-17-2017 03:58 AM

Vote for me and I promise to gulag the ne'er do wells.

Varrok 02-17-2017 05:05 AM

You're gonna ban yourself?

STM 02-17-2017 05:55 AM

I'm not a ne'er do well, I'm a miscreant. Venerate miscreants, liquidate the ne'er do wells.

JayDee 02-17-2017 07:43 AM

I'm unsure whether or not this thread will actually result in anyone eventually becoming a moderator, and that's fine. But at least this thread has raised some kind of discussion about the desperate need for more moderation on this site, or at least something to make this place better than it has been. As we've seen an influx of new members coming in from the ARG and the soon to be released Soulstorm, we've also being seeing a rise in multis and spam, trying to take advantage of this situation we find ourselves in, which isn't so much " live or die " as it is " live or fester as we have for the past 10 years. "

However some of us have been excited to see new members coming the forums, and some of us have been making multiple efforts to try and revitalise this place; myself, Fennec, and many others in this thread and across the forums included.

Some of these multi's posts were up for hours before anything got done and that's not the fault of the admin or moderation team, as everyone here (besides the bots) are real people with actual lives. But if we had atleast one extra moderator - whoever that may be - then that's already a 50% increase from the two active moderators we already seem to have.

Now I understand you guys voting for Vlam. or I can at least understand those of you who were "voting" for Vlam as an anti-OWF-estasblishment joke, and that's okay. It gave me a couple laughs. But lets not forget that a lot of the people making these jokes have more infractions than Abe has fingers (Yes, in both the US and Japan releases). A lot of people understood this as a joke but unfortunately people who haven't been here as long, or haven't been actively following the events of the forum for the past few years, don't exactly have the best judge of character.

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I actually wouldn't mind Vlam as a moderator, for the same reasons MrsKJJ pointed out. He knows how to navigate this forum; he's tough but fair, and I think he walks a fairly neutral line for the most point, tending to be objective and base his observations upon evidence as opposed to his own personal thoughts and concerns.

He won't be selected though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're damn right he won't be selected. Vlam knows how to navigate this site as well as anyone who knows that you have to click "advanced search" to actually get the search bar to do anything. And if you're thinking that someone who is openly antagonistic to members of this forum, new or old, walks a "neutral line" or would make a good moderator then that's your prerogative, but don't try to make it anyone else's. This is a member who has openly complained about the influx of new members multiple times and is vehemently against any kind of improvement to these forums whatsoever.

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Fun fact: Out of those who said they voted for Vlam, none actually checked the 3rd party poll option, but the other two.

I volunteered for this position because I'm genuinley passionate about seeing this place improve. I volunteered to be the moderator of Fan Corner, and then upon Nate saying that a more globalised moderator would be needed I volunteered for that too. Because like I said previously, I don't care about a title or where I'm put or for why, what I do care about is seeing that this place improves. I've grown up on these forums and I've seen the effect that the toxicity and - to put it nicely - where the "devil may care" attitude has gotten this place.

I hadn't spoken at length in this thread because I figured I'd just let the votes speak for themselves, and not try to sway people's judgements beyond those that they already held. My mistake. Now some of you can pretend like there isn't any issue on the forums, some of you can try to fix the issues on the forums, and some of you may just contribute to these problems as well. But I'd rather not hold my tongue and pretend like there isn't anything wrong, when there quite clearly is.

Varrok 02-17-2017 07:50 AM

^ Listen to what this man says.