with you around? i don't think so.

Tender? What does tender have to do with sex?

What, you never had yourself some tender lovin’?

At first I thought that was another steak pun

spoken like the true Havoc.

You’re searly misteaken.

Well done.

Praise from Havoc? How rare.

How long has this been past its prime by now?

I hate you guys so fricking much.

You're right. It's well aged at this point.

Dirty bum sex!

You mean doing it raw?

You're all faggots.

*Closes*

That's not what I meant at all.

I would have said

CREAMPIE!

Getting this thread back on to its original topic:

I've done some investigating (short version: I changed Firefox's user agent to that of Google's crawler and OWF gives a 403 error) and I think the issue might be with the site's .htaccess file. Sadly, that's not something Wil or I can fix, because Peter hasn't given us server access.

So, here's a new topic for this thread: How do we convince Peter to officially retire (perhaps to some sort of emeritus position) and let Wil and me do what needs to be done?

I'd spit out a few ideas, but I don't know Peter at all so I have no idea what may or may not work.

Sex and drugs won't work and that's basically everything we know about Peter, so spit away.

I'm assuming just simply asking, begging, or anything of the like was also tried and hasn't worked.

We could always sic Manco and their puns on him until he submits and hands over the forums

Or just sic OANST on him.

Is there a possibility he might give Nate and Wil server access if enough forumers speak up about it or something? Maybe constantly bring it up to him in a short period of time. Unless he's really that stubborn, we might be able to annoy him into retiring

Also, explaining how his neglect of the forums is fucking us over might better the chances. And pointing out that by either relinquishing the server or making it possible for Nate and Wil to do their thing it gives him one less "obligation"

I really don't know. I don't even know how he feels towards the forum. though I'd assume positive or indifferent seeing how it's still alive and kicking. kind of.

I think he still cares a lot about this place, but I don't even know how regularly he checks it these days. I'm pretty sure he's only made a handful of posts in the entire time you've been active recently. I can't actually check when his last activity was because profiles are still broken, and as search of his recent posts is taking forever for some reason.

I really don't understand why he doesn't give them server access though. He'll still own the place. It won't be any different to how things are now, except we won't have to wait as long to get problems fixed.

Every time Peter makes a post as of late, it's like encountering a shiny pokemon.

Perhaps some sort of petition is in order?

I think we should at least get a comment from him here before we start with talk like that.

We don't want to have some stupid leadership issue that divides the forums.

Yes, we do. Or at least I do. That sounds like fun!

What gets me is that there’s really nothing stopping him from giving others server access – it’s not like he has to give up his own rights to do it, he can just set up additional accounts on the web host.

Semi-related, but has the forum been slower to load recently for anyone else, or is that just my connection?

I've been finding it quite slow too.

I don't suppose buying the entire site from him would be an option, even if enough funds were somehow available?

Other than that I don't really understand why he refuses to give you access either. Maybe he's reluctant to let anyone access his server where he might have other stuff hosted. But there's solutions for that, as Manco pointed out. All you'd really need is an FTP account with access to only the oddworldforums.net directory. Takes like 30 seconds to set up and you're done.

What did he say when you asked about this subject before?

He mostly just ummed and erred about it.

The most definitive he's been was in June when he said he'd 'look in' to getting me server access.

I was around for the last one... Wow, that was very long time ago. I doubt there'll be as much of a dividing issue if something like that pops up again, though.

I sometimes get database glitches on the rare event I make a post. "You must wait 30 seconds before you can post again." even though I'm making a new post.

E: Oh yeah, Alcar was reading this thread as I was posting, apparently. I hope he does the right thing, it's a shame to watch this place getting stale.