Okay this really annoyed me. I can't stand when people have the attitude that if somebody is against trying something they are a boring fuck.

By the way, what do we think of alcohol being legal? Out of all hard drugs alcohol causes by far the most deaths, accidents and it costs the most money to treat the aftermath of alcohol related accidents.

I happened to see a documentary on alcohol abuse and how Arizona dealt with it. First time drunk drivers actually get a 10 day jail sentence and a fine that can go up to 7000 dollars. Go Arizona!

i agree with quite a few people here while disagree with an equal amount, but i can't be fucked replying to everything so i'll just keep it simple. weed has replaced my drinking habit for many reasons, mainly because too much drink exacerbated my depression. it's cheaper than beer, healthier than beer (it can be used in many different ways, not just smoked which isn't good for your lungs (although as a side note tokers are apparently more likely to have greater lung capacity than non-tokers because they're used to holding their breath during smoking, which i find odd but understandable)) and you don't want to fight everyone after a smoke, which is what i hated about alcohol. also since i stopped drinking i have lost some considerable weight, and weed don't make ya fat.

and for those playing the fucking psychosis/schizophrenic cards yet again, i can happily say that it has had no negative effects on my psychosis, and has had plenty of positive effects on my depression, including a better, brighter outlook on life.

also the children screaming DRUGS R BAD are just repeating what they've been told to say in school. when you get to a certain age you suddenly realize that this is it. this is life. so fucking enjoy it. i smoke tobacco because i like to but also because the stress of current day to day life forces some people to. sometimes i need a cigarette just to calm me down, just for a couple of minutes. this is because the country/world is run by fucking cunts, to put it bluntly.

like Havoc and someone else mentioned, if drugs are so fucking bad, why is alcohol legal? and tobacco? you can even go as far as mentioning coffee, tea and energy drinks, because all of these things are classed as drugs by the same people who 'protect' you from the dangers of weed. they're doing a great job with all the tobacco and alcohol related addictions and deaths, don't you think? so what do they do to deter people from taking these drugs? illegalize? why, raise the prices of course! that way people who are addicted to alcohol/nicotine have to pay more for their filthy habit which all goes to the government and the people that actually make the drug so they can make more of the drug and eventually charge you more, again. that's because these drugs make plenty of money that is now being relied upon, and the income is continuous due to addiction. it's perfect. get the nation addicted to shit and make them pay more and more for it. we're being farmed. like drones, we're just here to make up the numbers and supply the cash. they don't want us to stop paying for this shit because they've grown comfortable with it's income, they don't want to give up that slice of the pie, and probably can't afford to do so now anyway.

we decide what is legal and what isn't, not God, not some supercomputer called AM. humans. then why should we live by someone else's deluded rules? outdated rules? even worse, these rules are laws that lead to punishment if broken, and there is absolutely fuck all you can do about it because you will always be outnumbered by more ignorant people that believe they're doing what is good and right for the world and their country, and that you are wrong and you must be punished. how terrifying does that sound? yet we live in that world, it's scandalous. legalizing weed could be a big financial booster for this miserable little fucking island, another step towards trying to get this country off it's arse, we just need to grow up.

so that's my two-penneth rant.

Because they are boring fucks.
Besides, I didn't mean that people who haven't tried it are boring. It's people who make a big stink out of weed being this evil vice who buy into all the anti-weed propaganda who are boring, insecure shits. This is why I used the phrasing "staunchly opposed".

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? You really don't know enough about him to comment do you?

I already changed my post. I'm being too harsh. Keep up with me.

A minute after I posted mine no less. Whilst it's true cannabis is pretty tame compared to some drugs (for the most part) and I do advocate its legalisation, if not for the economic benefits rather than the actual liberal aspect, I do know that it can cause enormous amounts of shit for people who are easily addicted or who rely on it too much. It's caused in part the breakdown of friends' relationships and there was one person I met who went from being a banker on a seven-figure salary to a recovering addict who used weed as a treadstone to get to heroin within a decade or two. It can be dangerous and there should be real, independent studies into its positives and negatives before any legalisation.

I wonder if that's because more people use it than any other drug, and in every echelon of society?

I might be wrong here, but I don't think that'd be such a problem with weed, I think it's one of the less addictive drugs out there. Again though, I might be wrong.

And how does that make it okay? If cocaine was legal it would produce the same numbers, yet that stuff is illegal. Seemingly because of that very reason.

There's a difference between addiction and dependence. Marijuana could be a gateway drug, I think that's everyone's main concern. Having spoken to a recovering addict, as I've said, he was most dangerous and most sneaky whilst under the vice of weed rather than cocaine and heroin which he went on to later.

I expect most people are drunk the first time they try most drugs, just because that's the nature of a relaxed (or rowdy) social occasion for young people. I guess that makes alcohol the most widespread gateway drug, if such a thing even exists.

I mean, your spliff doesn't unroll itself to reveal a crack pipe. People get you into hard drugs, not plants. Persuasive druggy people are the real facilitative "gateway".

But then, I'm a neurotic square who never even gets drunk because he's worried about what he might do while uninhibited. What do I know?

I was like that until I was about twenty.

Then I started getting drunk occasionally on my own.

The moral of this story, I guess, is that being a loser is suffering.

Cocaine would never be popular if it were legal. Cultural reasons alone can account for that.

One can consume alcohol responsibly. Is it even possible to do the same with cocaine?

But I can understand why Cocaine is illeagal, the same can't be said for weed.

Depends on the person, like with alcohol. Some people can drink straight Scotch all night and feel fine, others can barely handle a single beer. Same with coke. You can snort one line and be just slightly jazzed, or you could totally lose your fucking mind.

Also depends on how good the stuff is.

Case in point; Charlie Sheen.

I get drunk from a single beer or two... makes night outs very cheap and very shortlived... Depending.. of course.

People don't do weed, then think "Gee whizz, i could really do with some smack right around now."

The 'gateway' argument is only valid due to who you hang around with. If you're smoking weed, chances are you're hanging around with people, or know people, who do other drugs, so the opportunity is there.

I don't particularly like weed. The amount of stoners i know who throw the 'I AIN'T NO DAMN ADDICT' card, whilst rolling their 3rd joint in the space of 4 hours is ludicrous. Obviously, maybe they're one offs and so my stance against weed is invalid...but still, it's coloured my opinion.

In England we've had some independant research done on drugs, but in both cases were the guys doing the investigating have come back with a 'Yeah, they're not that bad', the Government shook their mighty heads and brushed them aside. Sacking one, whilst the others resigned.

I do think the whole thing needs to be looked at. Taxing drugs would help with the economy, but also probably create a two tier system.

Meh.

I blame ugly people.

Kill 'em all.

Didn't our last Labour government re-classify weed from a C to a B? We're going fucking backwards.

Now, back in my mid to late teens, I dabbled in drug taking. The lifestyle popped up again early last year or so but I've kicked it completely.

Drugs should not be legalised, even mellow inducing shit like weed has long time problems. I've seen the worst it can do to people.

Plus, I can't stand stoners. Obnoxious cunts.

Now, back in my mid to late teens, I dabbled in alcohol. The lifestyle popped up again early last year or so but I've kicked it completely.

Alcohol should not be legal, even pansy shit like WKD has long time problems. I've seen the worst it can do to people.

Plus, I can't stand drunks. Annoying cunts.

Aha!

Ridg3 has been drunk before.

I have never seen him drunk, though. But there are pictures.

And stories that border on death, damnation and the darkly homo-erotic.

I wish people would stop holding onto the "Alcohol is legal, so weed should be too!" Considering that alcohol causes thousands of deaths due to drunk driving every year, it's not something you'd want to associate with something you want to become legal. Note that I'm not saying weed would cause more accidents, but hopefully you all will see how terrible a fucking argument it is.

It's almost as bad as the "weed is a natural thing, man" argument.

Almost.

It's not about the potential harm, it's about the freedom of choice. The popular view is that you're allowed to screw up your own body as much as you want.

Naturally, if you legalise a drug you have to restrict its usage when others are involved. I don't really have an argument for this though so I'll just stop typi

If driving under the influence only harmed the user then I'd be its greatest advocate.

If they legalise weed, any subsequent health defects shouldn't be treated through NHS subsidy. Pay for it yourself. Same with alcohol and smoking though.

People die every day from cigarettes (at least according to the boxes). Weed doesn't kill people. Yet the deadly one is legal.

Shit is fucked up.

Oh it's this argument again.