By their genitals? Or by their chromosones?

By their passports, duh.

So the information on the passport doesn't need to correlate with the human in any way.

You mean like what a passport photo is for?

You won't always be communicating through a channel that can transmit images. A rapidly diminishing issue, certainly, but still worth considering. When security are transmitting a description of someone, I'd rather not get jumped by the guards because a woman of my description has a gun.

And bear in mind security are trained to evaluate appearance. They will recognise someone's physical sex regardless of the psychological overlay.

Someone evidently doesn't understand jokes.

This is when someone posts some photos of Asian pop stars and we all try to guess what sex they are.

Clockwork. Or self-fullfilling?

Self-fullfilling clockwork.

Also I keep reading the title as Free Sex Passports. I keep wondering where to get one and what it's good for.

Sex tourism, I expect.

Why would a passport be relevent to this scenario?

Well if I need to prove that I'm not this person who shares all my credentials but my sex...

Passports aren't impossible to forge anyway.

I dunno, I'm running out of arguments here. I expect the average criminal/smuggler/terrorist would be more knowledgable than me in Ways To Exploit Security Loopholes.

I'm not a 9/11 paranoiac, I just don't think it's worth it. I'd say that airport security aren't judging anybody, but that's bullshit. I already get searched more carefully than everyone else because I look like a crackhead. Passing through security is running the gauntlet if you're sensitive about the way people see you, but it's the means to an end. The best you can ask is that they're equally judgemental of everybody. Just get it over with and get on the plane.

Maybe security needs to know it advance exactly how many orifices you have in which to hide things.

Why? Do you look like a woman? Do you need your passport to prove you're a man?

If you wanted to call me out on that frankly unlikely hypothetical you should have done it like, six posts ago when it started.

I responded the instant I read it, which was only 13 hours after you posted it.

I've reached that point where I don't know enough to keep supporting my arguments and don't care enough to make up new ones. Plus looking at this last page too many of those posts are mine.

Record the last paragraph of post #73 as my closing statement, and good day.

oh and I have a transgender sister (former brother) BTW so that makes everything I said okay

Are they hot?

In my case, yes.

I wonder whether airports have policies for who should do pat-down searches on pre-op transexuals.

Employees with the strongest stomach.

Or if he can pull it off very well to look completely like a woman, until a search reveals he's carrying a concealed package.

hurr

Actually that could work in the inverse sense.

A physical woman who looks and acts male could conceal contraband in the front of their trousers and merely look well endowed... Regular searches won't approach that area so if they act inconspicuous enough they could get away with it. And because their passport has no gender listed they would be able to pass as a slightly effeminite man.

Not really. Frankly it's unconvincing.

They'd have to do a bloody good job of storing the contraband to make it feel like a real cock 'n' balls. Besides, you could do that with just about any not-massively-endowed guy.

Lady Gaga comes to mind.

She's definitely packing.

That's a good concept, but it would be hard to execute, besides, given that its a woman and that the contraband was small enough, wouldn't she be able to hide it up there?

I'm not going to pretend that that argument has any real credibility. I'm just trying to show that any supposedly good action can be manipulated for evil ends, and vice versa.

What I'm saying is that the idea of being psychologically male or female is stupid. I don't wake up in the morning thinking 'I'm feeling especially male-like today' because what is defined as male-like (or otherwise) is a societal construct.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

No.

If a male feels comfortable identifying as a female then he is probably psychologically female, and vice versa. Personal identification is important. It's a standard right of freedom.

I identify as a purple dinosaur, as I feel comfortable in doing so I must psychologically be a purple dinosaur.