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Crashpunk 05-27-2009 01:31 AM

i agree, If abe possess a scrab then unpossesed it and killed it, he would be killed by the native Mudokons or banished from Mudos.

were as Abe wants to kill the glukkons

JayDee 05-27-2009 01:55 AM

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i agree, If abe possess a scrab then unpossesed it and killed it, he would be killed by the native Mudokons or banished from Mudos.

you can tell this is AE such as when he's in the mudomo vaults if you make a paramite die by throwing meat of an edge he says the same things as if a mudokon died

Crashpunk 05-27-2009 02:19 AM

The death Tune "Dun dun"? and "Oops."

Phylum 05-27-2009 02:37 AM

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It's less about the tattoos and more about his personal spiritual development and increased skill through more experience.

Doesn't this answer most of the problems about not being able to and then being able to possess creatures/characters.

This was one of the first posts in this discussion as well :P

Crashpunk 05-28-2009 10:43 AM

Heres a Thought, Mabey Abe couldn't Possess the Scrabs and Paramites beacuse he had never seen them before. Like abe couldn't possess Slogs but now can in MO. If he learns more about them, he can Possess them.

joshkrz 05-28-2009 10:47 AM

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Heres a Thought, Mabey Abe couldn't Possess the Scrabs and Paramites beacuse he had never seen them before. Like abe couldn't possess Slogs but now can in MO. If he learns more about them, he can Possess them.

you can posses slogs in MO! i didnt know that, well the tatoo idea is out the window :\

Crashpunk 05-28-2009 11:44 AM

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you can posses slogs in MO! i didnt know that, well the tatoo idea is out the window :\
hehe, yeah. there really useless and i think you can only possess them in one part.

Xavier 05-29-2009 12:45 AM

As far as I can remember you are able to posses them everywhere in MO...

shaman 05-29-2009 04:19 AM

Out of pure interest. Why in AO and AE does abe automatically possess something, whilst in MO you have to control a possesion orb to a certain enemy. I think it would make more sence if in MO he simply possesed the way he did in the preveous games, with the speedy blue stuff and wot-not.

Nate 05-29-2009 05:22 AM

Because in the Abe games, the player only viewed one screen at a time with only a small number of sligs available for possession. In MO the player was placed in a wide, ongoing world with any number of sligs within possessionable distance. There would have been no way for the game to automatically identify precisely which slig the player wanted to possess without some sort of selection mechanic.

joshkrz 05-29-2009 05:32 AM

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Because in the Abe games, the player only viewed one screen at a time with only a small number of sligs available for possession. In MO the player was placed in a wide, ongoing world with any number of sligs within possessionable distance. There would have been no way for the game to automatically identify precisely which slig the player wanted to possess without some sort of selection mechanic.

i hated MO, i mean, come on, SPRUCE. what the bloody hell is SPRUCE, why cant he just chant like he always did. without the aid of anything, he must of lost his touch

Nate 05-29-2009 05:55 AM

I agree. What the bloody hell is Spruce?

Xavier 05-29-2009 06:16 AM

Spruce Bringsteen?

Tell me how you would have been able to select which Slig you wanted to posses? It is sometimes critical to be able to posses the big bro Slig that's just a bit further away then only a regular Slig... the Orb was actually a good selection mechanic

joshkrz 05-29-2009 06:37 AM

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Spruce Bringsteen?


haha how long did that take to think up :p

bobtheguy 05-29-2009 12:11 PM

What's a bell from the monsaic lines? Also The main reason why he couldn't posses scrabs and paramites in the first game was because the people who designed the game didn't design the levels so that the scrabs and paramites needed to be possesed, not because of any of abes spiritual abbilitys getting stronger. And as for sprooce and the li'l possession orb thingy, that was because the game was in 3-D and it would let people select which enemy they needed to posses.

joshkrz 05-29-2009 01:54 PM

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What's a bell from the monsaic lines? Also The main reason why he couldn't posses scrabs and paramites in the first game was because the people who designed the game didn't design the levels so that the scrabs and paramites needed to be possesed, not because of any of abes spiritual abbilitys getting stronger. And as for sprooce and the li'l possession orb thingy, that was because the game was in 3-D and it would let people select which enemy they needed to posses.

bells in monsaic lines and the paramonian / scarabanian temples ensured a door was locked untill you got the bell tune from a story stone, it made the levels longer and harder.

bobtheguy 05-29-2009 01:57 PM

what did it look like though? and was it a machine?

joshkrz 05-29-2009 02:03 PM

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what did it look like though? and was it a machine?

http://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownl.../oddworld1.jpg

bobtheguy 05-29-2009 02:17 PM

thanks for posting the picture :D

mr.odd 05-29-2009 02:31 PM

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i hated MO, i mean, come on, SPRUCE. what the bloody hell is SPRUCE, why cant he just chant like he always did. without the aid of anything, he must of lost his touch

MO wasn't that bad, sure i would much rather play 2d abe any day, but sadly the game market revolves around 3d. i can agree about the spruce part, but they had to add something to make it i bit more challenging.

joshkrz 05-29-2009 04:15 PM

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MO wasn't that bad, sure i would much rather play 2d abe any day, but sadly the game market revolves around 3d. i can agree about the spruce part, but they had to add something to make it i bit more challenging.

they could of done it better though and not so childish, for example rescuing muds to gain more power to open doors or to chant for longer etc. Spruce was placed too much aswell, they were everywhere and only chalenging in certain places.

as for 3d yerh i suppose they had too, but also there was no oddworld humor as far as i can remember

Crashpunk 05-30-2009 01:23 AM

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it made the levels longer and harder.
hehehe

joshkrz 05-30-2009 04:53 AM

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hehehe

oh noes, what made me say that lol

Fil The Slig 06-04-2009 09:28 PM

He sees The Matrix. The Source Code. He Hacks The Game. He's a Hacker.

MA 06-07-2009 03:11 PM

damn you Fil.

by the way its 'Spooce'.

AnGrY_GreeteR 07-30-2009 08:19 PM

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With Scrabs/Paramites I think he would see something akin to what Daredevil sees, where theres like pulses that you can see and react to.

What I'm saying is, it's impossible to see in 2D. It would just be a single line of vision, which would be useless.

Guys the real question is what does Abe see when he posseses a exploding fart or rather.. what he smells.. lol

Crashpunk 08-03-2009 12:14 PM

He smells his Species Rotten Bones in Fart form.

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it's impossible to see in 2D. It would just be a single line of vision, which would be useless.
A New 3-D Oddworld game may cover this up. Oddworld Inhab. Make it happen!

Sekto Springs 08-03-2009 11:44 PM

Spruce? So Abe's possessing trees now?

Also, how does the invisibility power work on Scrabs and Paramites who have no eyes and sense by vibration and echolocation? Turning invisible would not shield you from either of these as invisibility is just the bending of light around an object.

Should we just assume that because the power of invisibility comes from a mystical source that it renders him invisible not only to the naked eye but the laws of physics aswell?

Phylum 08-04-2009 02:11 AM

Yes?

I was thinking exactly this yesterday.

Aleks55 08-04-2009 09:35 PM

Abe probably just see his hands, or closes his eye :P