What the fuck is people's problem with Gypsies? They're poor wandering bards. Of course some are scumbags, but calling them all awful fuckers is rather racist, assuming we're talking about the Romany tribes in Europe and India.

Hippies, on the other hand... Every one I've met has been lazy, spaced-out and fucking obnoxious. The whole thing comes from "revolutionaries" in San Francisco that dropped shit-tons of acid and smoked meth. They are naught but drug-addled wastes. I appreciate their contribution to kicking off counter-culture, but shit, other than they are goddamn useless.

EDIT: I guess they're kind, can't fault 'em for that. But still fucking useless.

Since when did we only have one?

Probably because if there was a sexy chick who wanted to suck horse cocks, it wouldn't be an issue.

But really, I'm not attracted to small children at all in real life and never have been. =/

Hippies and gypsies both suck.

But only if you pay them.

*facepalms at direction this thread is going*

I love me a good Gypsy, even without fellatio

you know i read somewhere about an experiment. about 20 (# stands just for comparison) male, non-pedo psychologic students watched a slide show of photos, whith under 12 years old naked girls on them. about 18 of them got an erection.
manga/anime figures like those on your image are in such a position, only adults or at least juveniles would be.
apart from that i hope everyone is able to differ between a pedophile and a pedocriminal. as long as a pedophile hasn't done anything wrong, i think nobody should blame him for anything...

I challenge that statement, any psychologist performing a study like that would have his license torn up in front of him and be convicted for handling pedophilic material.

Who said it was an official test? The outcome of such a test doesn't surprise me either.

(I'm going to get burned for this, I know that for a fact, BUT) I think in a way that if you'd go back to basics, our instinct considers a 12 year old girl sexually mature. And this is true in a way because there are plenty of girls who get their first period around their 11th, 12th or 13th. Next to that there are also plenty of stories of girls who are pregnant on the age of 12.

Our society has banned any sexual thought of children that young because sex has become a lot more then it's basic purpose of reproducing. But in the sense of our primal instinct I think that a 12 year old would be considered ok for mating with and this our instinct gives you the boner.

Of course no-one is ever going to admit getting a boner when he sees a young girl around the age of 12 - 15, when you're around 20 yourself. But I'm pretty sure that it has happened to every guy at one point or another. Think swimming pools, beaches or accidentally getting confronted with the wrong kind of porn somehow.

Just because we consciously know such thoughts about young children are wrong in today's society doesn't mean our primal instincts gives a rats ass.

Just my $0.02.

You know what? Forget it.

My gypsy comment was intended to be a sarcastic reply to Kimon's post, and meant in jest. But evidently people took it seriously and think I have a problem with gypsies. I have only got a problem with the gypsies who steal and use other people's land without permission or reason. Gypsies in general I dont. I made that post intending it as a joke. But evidently it wasnt obvious. That or I'm not one of the people who can get away with making politically incorrect statements like Kimon's generalisation of hippies that I at first presumed was also meant in jest. Maybe I should use [sarcasm] tags in the future. But its irrelevant as the damage is done already by that post.


So Im just not going to bother posting in Off Topic anymore. i know you'll have fun without me, and probably won't need to worry about some "racist" spoiling your fun.

This. But uhm, 12 years old is actually not considered pedo. 12-year-olds have sexual properties that can be attractive to adults. Pedophilia is actually used to describe people who get off to 5-year-olds and such.

Really? Hm.

Wiki says it depends on the context. In the medical context it means sexual attraction to a prepubescent child. In law enforcement it means sexual contact with a minor (which is anything below 18 I believe).

So then, outside the law enforcement term, what would be the term for sexual attraction to children above the age of 12 for example?

Oh, don't be so emotional. Sarcasm is hard to read on the Internet; this is fact. It's nobody's fault your post got misinterpreted.

Isn't attraction to 13-15 year olds considered something else? Ephebeophillia or something?

Well fuck, I started cybering with my girlfriend when she was 15 and I was 17, lock me up and call me Pedobear.

No Ghost, still pedophellia, in fact, sexual realations with anyone under 16 is considered rape, statatory rape.

No, mudling, you're hideously wrong; did you even bother to wiki Ephebophilia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

Pedophilia only blanket terms it.

Now suck my dick you filthy child.

Fear not everyone! I shall assume the position of the forum racist following MM's resignation.

well i am unable to prove the source, so you're right to challenge my statement. so it wouldn't make any more sense to argue about this...

I've not resgined from the forums, and no! That role shall still be mine, albeit reluctantly.

And yeah, fuck my earlier "No more Ot" thing. Melodrama sucks, curse me for using it.



And the way I say it sexual attractions to 12 yr olds is paedophilia, whatever the technical term is its still a form of paedophilia. However I think sex with under 16 yr olds being classed as rape is a bit daft, as you do get some 15 yr olds who basically go out looking for a shag. So its hardly rape then.

This.

At that age, curves develop, breast start growing. That isn't pedo. Pedophilia is getting off to kids just being kids. Watching them play in the park, laugh, cry. That is pedophilia.

I understand your point but I still think its paedophilia at its core. It may not seem to be in the same sense but they're 12 for God's sakes. If you were saying it about a 14 or 15 yr old I maybe could understand your point as by then they have considerably phsyically developed but at 12, they are still little more than a kid physically. But I don't really take an interest in studying paedophilia so its not like Im particularly informed on the subject anyway.

I understand. But even full-grown, "normal" adults can be turned on by a twelve year old in suggestive poses.

On a side note, I read somewhere that there are more pedophiles than there are gay people, but it is hard to track obviously.

Depends. If we're talking Pedos who get the thoughts, then I'd believe it. If you mean people who act on those thoughts, then no way.

Yeah, I meant the former.

But if 1 in 10 people are supposedly gay doesn't that mean, 1 in 9 or even more than that people are, well, pedos.
And anonyman, you bring up a good point, but still, regardless on why they are attracted, the reason they are persecuted, or how I intreptate it, is because they are not seen to be mature enough to make a decision such as sex, and can be easily manipulated by others.
Look, I know it's harsh, by I personally believe it's for the best, if only to protect the minority out there.

But yes, they differ from pedos because pedos seem to be defined by people who have a fettish, whereas, those who prey on young kids, possibly even under 12s can do it because of how vunerable, and easily influenced they are.
Either way, these people are still horrble, IMO, and "predators".

But I digrees, those girls are drawn that way in order to look adorable and cute, which is in the style of most anime, and so japanese school girls can identify with them, however, they are teenagers pruley because they're just in reach of japanese male teenagers, or in this case, Ghost, being attracted to them.
Therefore, the reason why these kids watch these shows, Ghost you can argue whatever you want but kids love how shows look, and don't care so much what actually happens.
Although I'm afraid I don't know too much on the toppic, so forgive me if I'm wrong.

Your logic is so flawed I simply cannot begin to explain it's immense level of wrongevity.

I quite like my made up word

Me too.

BTW MUDLING
I'm just saying. No opinions here.

What I'm trying to say, is that I can't comprehend petos being so common, but I guess it's possible, if they simply don't take action.
And no offence taken, this is a forum, say whatever you want. :)