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Hobo 05-14-2004 04:02 AM

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PA, deep inside you know you've lost. You've resorted to acting immature. Just as a child hides behind his mother when scared, you use God and Bush as paternal shields. It's nothing knew, either. It always happens. You're too proud to admit you know jack all, and you're simply arguing for the side that brings you comfort of mind.

If God exists, he doesn't take sides. I'm outraged that you dare take the judgement of God into your own hands! You are ever the blasphemer, if ever I saw one.

Use your own brain, God gave you it to think with for yourself, to interpret the world he gave us, to explore. Don't rely on everything someone says. Don't believe everything you read in the Bible. The Bible was ultimately an interpretation of God's will, and so in turn we must interpret it ourselves. Then look even deeper, research the Kabbalah, the Tree of Life, and Sephirothism to name a few. Christianity is indeed a religion with many mysterious roots. It'll do good to broaden your knowledge, and not confine it.

But then, you would rather live a life comforted by a sense of false security. It's just easier that way, to believe everything is alright with the world. That everything your government does is justified.

Marry Me.


Again.

The Red Muse 05-14-2004 04:30 AM

Sorry, I couldn't help to laugh when I read this!

Yes, well, anyway;
Amen to Alcar.

oddguy 05-14-2004 06:52 AM

I have to agree with Alcar, but I wouldn't be suprised if PA stayed away from the forums for a while. His Stranger prediction and now this has really gotten a lot of bullets thrown at him.

I wish we we could go back to the simple times when we knew PA was a bad speller and started lots of threads, but we didn't care because that's what made PA...PA!

-oddguy

Hobo 05-14-2004 07:11 AM

Tsh, you shoot bullets Oddguy, not throw them. Silly.

Bah, if PA's going to keep his Bush-ist opinons then he can stay out as far as I'm concerned

oddguy 05-14-2004 07:53 AM

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Tsh, you shoot bullets Oddguy, not throw them. Silly.

Damn! Mixed metaphor I suppose. At least I didn't say knives shot at him...right?

*nervous laughter* hehe

:fuzemb:

-oddguy

Jacob 05-14-2004 08:40 AM

'A common thing that makes Christians looks bad is how they raise their hands and cry and do all that showy praying. In the Bible it does say to lift up your voice high, but that is refering to lift your voice high unto God...not to make yourself a spectacle in front of others. It actually says to pray in private so that it's just between you and God.'

Thankyou for that. I am planning on going to America some time and going to one of those Jesus seminars and trying to make the teenagers stop being such c*nts. This will help me with my task.

Like i said before, i think people should live life the way God would want them to. Happily. If it does nobody harm, why not do it?

On a seperate note - i have love affairs with Chickens.

Hobo 05-14-2004 08:47 AM

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On a seperate note - i have love affairs with Chickens.

So do I, don't the feathers just get everywhere?

Havoc 05-14-2004 09:05 AM

now what the hell (isnt that just a well fitted word for the discussion we are having? :P) was that all about? Chickens? Did I miss the joke here?

Shell Man 05-14-2004 12:05 PM

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Ah, I enjoy your words, Alcar. Spirituality is about what we all have in common, not about that which separates us. Religion has it's benefits, but it's important to remember that it's a human institution, and thus subject to all our flaws.

Majic 05-14-2004 02:50 PM

As much as opinions may disagree against PA, how weak his arguments may be, his choices regarding religion, lay off. Somebody shouldn't have to be pushed to the point of acting childish, or feeling the need to hide. You think what you think, and leave it at that. So what if one person doesn't share popular opinion? If you really think a person's arguments and actions are so weak and immature, why does it matter so much? Let things be how they are.

Just becasue you have a chance to go and dominate an argument doesn't mean you should. Let the other person leave with dignity, I'd say it was pretty clear PA didn't want to get blasted as he did.

Havoc 05-15-2004 03:43 AM

I don't think anyone would wanted to blast him and let him leave this thing with shame, but somewhere in the middle of this topic PA began to (IMO) make realy negative comments about Iraq. Being negative in the terms of:
Everything which isnt American is stupid! And everything from Iraq should be shot!

Sorry, but that was the bottom line in all of his statements from page 2 I believe.
I think this topic is pretty much done for right now BTW...

paramiteabe 05-15-2004 10:00 AM

Well I guess I know how everyone feels about me and I can understand. Wether or not you understood me before I dunno. I have been trying to point out who our enemys are. Iraq is not our enemy its the people who cut off the head of Berg. And I guess when I hear somebody state that the cause of such acts was justified or taken as revenge against us, when I persoanally know myself that these people always wanted to kill us, it makes me believe that your saying or praiseing these people who do such things, which in turn makes me disgusted. I try to defend the other side. And I think that there is no gray area. And for me I think or I believe its just not acceptable.

Now if you think that I believe that all of Iraq is the enemy then I dunno what to tell you. I mean I can't convince anybody. So thats just the way I feel about this issue. And don't accuse me for this because I know I have a problem and my problem is I can't explane to people things very well. I mean I am always like this even in the real world. I can't help it. It is something that is not one of my strengths and the thing here is I know that and I am always trying to fight that but it never works and I am viewed as being immature or something else of that nature. I know I am smarter than that but its killing me. I know my strengths and that one strength that I have is being visual.

If anything that is positive about me its the ability to be an artist and who has a very creative mind set. Thats my positive side, Thats the true me the true Paramiteabe I want to be viewed as. Its not the immature person you've been seeing trying to convince and explan ethics and religion and all that shit.

So all I can say is sorry.

oddguy 05-15-2004 10:08 AM

Why don't we just leave this whole thing behind us and get back to normal?

-oddguy

Strike Witch 05-15-2004 12:20 PM

:rant: :( :crying: :crying:
It's ok. Everyone goes crazy sometimes. I wonder, what if Bush was reading these forums right now....

Bush: Why this is terrible!


Ghost!

Jacob 05-15-2004 12:48 PM

'Bush: Why this is terrible!'

With "Iraqi's...still alive!! Naaaaaeee!!" added onto the end.

I like Tony Blair. Tony Blair rocks my socks. He doesn't give off bad vibes and he seems sincere...

Michael Howard [or whoever he is] on the other hand is a c*nt and gives off bad vibes. If he gets in this country is going to the shitter and i hope he doesn't. He's even trying to get the Pink [Gay] vote by saying "Oh, we'll do Gay shtuffs for you Gay's as well...yes, like, ermmm, give Gay pupils mentors.". And it's like "Erm, as i recall you hate faggots and once tried to keep the legal Gay sex age group to 18 instead of 16.". God. Michael Howard. Opportunist prick. Any questions class?

And on the Feather note, i tend to shave the behind area.

Mac the Janitor 05-15-2004 01:30 PM

Crap.

I feel awful for pointing that out.

Sorry bout that, PA.

Hug?

oddguy 05-15-2004 06:52 PM

Mac, it wasn't really your fault. Everybody had to have the same feeling burried deep inside, because after you mentioned it...everybody felt the freedom to follow in thy footsteps. If you hadn't pointed it out, somebody would've mentioned it later. Well, now that it's all out, we all feel better and we can go back to normal. :)

-oddguy

Jacob 05-16-2004 03:37 AM

I don't see why anybody should be apologising. And it does literally sicken me that one minute everybody is voicing their, well formed, opinions and the next minute, after somebody says "Oh stop, you'll hurt his feelings" everbodies all "Whoops, we are so sorry for having opinions that differ from yours. We are so sorry that we rubbed our, basically correct, opinions in your face and mocked your, basically shite, opinions in doing so. We are so sorry.". You all had a good point, and basically i think the only reason why PA supports Bush is because he is just another Bible Bashing American who probably secretly masturbates Cattle whilst dressed up as 'Cilla' on the weekends...

paramiteabe 05-16-2004 04:24 AM

Look Jacob don't go through all the trouble of trying make me pissed off, because that to me makes me feel you have no life so what ever you say I really can care less. If anything that is immature now it would be to keep going on with this.

Fez 05-16-2004 04:30 AM

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makes me feel you have no life so

Rather funny thats coming from you......



STEAM! REMEMBER STEAM! EH PA?

paramiteabe 05-16-2004 04:34 AM

Well Ferill Things are normal again.

Jacob 05-16-2004 06:01 AM

Steam, ahh yes, Steam that little rascal.

And why does everybody on the forum say 'And i could care less'? It's supposed to be 'And i couldn't care less'. Meaning you can't care any less for that particular subject matter. I've pointed this out before but the forums seem to ignore my, rather fruity, knowledge.

Codek 05-16-2004 06:14 AM

You're all agreeing with majic here, but then you have PA dotted about the thread blurting his stupid religious dogma, and talking captain apocalypse about how "we" are not ever going to stop "hunting down" these extremists until they're dead.

This proves me right. The fact that the papers sensationalise things is irrellivant to your case - it's whether or not the people beleive it. And so far, there has been no public outcry to listen to these Iraqi extremists and meet their demands.

I personally agree with the extremists. I mean what right does the USA as a nation have to bully its' prisoners?

You really are a bunch of ****ing disgraceful idiots. Especially you PA, I used to hold you in high respect, but now you just piss me off. You're so defensive about the country you live in yet you don't even take part in its defense (or offense, depending on how much your mind has been warped by US propaganda bullshit).

Fez 05-16-2004 06:17 AM

Very well said Death.

PA, join the army. You cant truly be a true (heehee) patriot untill you fight for your country.

Codek 05-16-2004 06:25 AM

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Very well said Death.

PA, join the army. You cant truly be a true (heehee) patriot untill you fight for your country.

There is actually a missile and a tank called the patriot. With good reason, as fez illustrated.

I'd be inclined to join the military, only, I really don't give a shit what my country thinks. Tony Blair can basically just go have a wank in his office if he thinks I'm ever going to support his "war effort". I won't even support Russia. Bluntly put, Russia sucks. It's an undercultured, mothballed and wartorn society full of poverty and dangerous criminals. Certainly nothing that I am going to fight for.

England is worth defending. Especially the pound sterling and its independance as a seperate nation from the EU. But not at the cost of lives. Nothing is worth a life to be honest.

oddguy 05-16-2004 06:50 AM

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I don't see why anybody should be apologising. And it does literally sicken me that one minute everybody is voicing their, well formed, opinions and the next minute, after somebody says "Oh stop, you'll hurt his feelings" everbodies all "Whoops, we are so sorry for having opinions that differ from yours. We are so sorry that we rubbed our, basically correct, opinions in your face and mocked your, basically shite, opinions in doing so. We are so sorry.". You all had a good point...

I think I was the one that said to stop, and I said this because PA has been a great member of the OWF for a long time and I didn't want to see him leave because we drove him away. Yes, the hurtful things stated were true, but he got the message and we don't need to go on for two more pages about it. Hopefully he can take what we said and use it in his life. I'm sure he'll think twice before using God as his scapegoat in an argument.

-oddguy

paramiteabe 05-16-2004 07:27 AM

Wow you guys keep going and going and going. You guys just don't get it do you? Well what ever I am not going interfer with your little circle of friends on here or what ever you call it. I have my own niche on here and its in FC. As far as you knowing what I am like you guys are really far off.:flames:

Mac the Janitor 05-16-2004 07:35 AM

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Wow you guys keep going and going and going. You guys just don't get it do you? Well what ever I am not going interfer with your little circle of friends on here or what ever you call it. I have my own niche on here and its in FC. As far as you knowing what I am like you guys are really far off. :flames:

C'mon PA, I'm still waiting for my hug...

Pretty please?

paramiteabe 05-16-2004 07:38 AM

Nope! :eek:

Joe the Intern 05-16-2004 08:20 AM

Death, **** you. **** you good, **** you long, and **** you hard. I only know four Americans on this board: Me, Luke, Majic, and PA. PA is the only one that supports the war effort. That's a 3:1 ratio, and here you can sit and tell me that my whole country is full of drooling retards with guns. You mock every patriotic American for being patriotic and then praise your own England above all else, you pseudo-cynical, hate-spouting neohippy. At least PA made an effort at an apology. Majic was saying that Americans can have different opinions and like their country, whether they're satisfied with Bush or not, but you apparently have a 3rd-grade reading level. Sheeit. This whole thread makes me angry.