The Tree Huggers and Land Muggers art are promotional images for Munch's Oddysee, so it would naturally feature them.

I can understand your confusion. A lot of fans made the connection between the 'play as different sides' aspect and the 'Tree Huggers vs. Land Muggers' early promotional concept for Munch's Oddysee. This has been a frustration to me for years, because outwardly Oddworld Inhabitants never married the two.

In an early Dear Alf, Alf mentioned that Hand of Odd would feature 3 competing sides. In fact, I've seen designs that had 5.

I didn't know they were for Munch. Could you tell us what the sides were? You got me interested. Also, what's your avatar/icon/profile photo thing?

I'm not going to give it away fully, but back when there were three sides, they were Glukkons, Native Mudokons and a faction based on the same inspiration behind Outlaws, although at the time they were called Meetles (the name of which in turn went on to be inherited by something else again).

In the five-sided concept I've read, three of the sides were Native Mudokons, Glukkons and Vykkers. A fourth side was yet another version of the Outlaws idea going by yet another name.

Was there a faction representing interests we haven't seen in a game so far?

If you say "no," I'm assuming clakkers.

Yes.

Clakkerz didn't exist at the time.

Paradise.

So the fifth side must have been a race of violent nerd revolutionaries. That seems most likely.

You're thinking of a different upcoming Oddworld story.

Do tell:fuzconf:

I think it was a joke.

Squeek is a nerd. He wears glasses and programmes in C++.

darn. just darn. What is Wil's icon, rejected live ammo, or a fan character? Are there any other rejected ammo types?

What makes C++ such a nerdy programming language?

Probably the fact it's a programming language.

Jbot: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showth...ine#post540795

But STM was specific about this one language

He was also specific about glasses, which many nerds don't wear, and programming, which many nerds don't do.

I don't know anything about nerds anymore

Nerds secrete a volatile substance called poindextrose.

Thanks, now I posses a bit of knowledge about nerds! :)

Are there any pictures of what birds (from Oddworld,of course) look like up close? All I can make out is a white cylinder with wings.

That might be due to hardware limitations.

Some species are unipedal, and caudal feathers emanate from their parietal.

I don't think any good picture of those bids exists, at least I never saw one.
Same thing for the bats.

Were they rendered from models like everything else? Higher quality versions probably exist somewhere.

The bats were one pixel wide most of the time, so I don't know they would have bothered rendering those.

Bats just pissed me off all together

I once drew how I imagined them to be taking their utter lethality into account. They had one foot and their face looked like that of the offspring of a paramite and a viperfish. I labelled all the pointy bits "venomous".

I used to believe that chanting in one place for long enough would drive them away, so I'd stand there in Scrabania for hours trying to get the damn bat out from under the ledge.

Aye, there were bits in the Free-Fire Zone where if you waited long enough some of the bats would vanish.

Yeah, but don't some just fly off on their own?

Yeah, if you wait long enough. Nothing to do with chanting. The only way I know of to move bats is with rocks... and it's not exactly reliable.

You can look at "Shrykull revealed" cutscene and AE bad ending.

Could someone give me a list of known companies/products/brands on oddworld? Even ones that have just been mentioned briefly are fine. I know it's a lot to ask, but I keep hearing about new ones that I've never heard of, and I would appreciate the help. I'm gonna try to do a series of fan-made advertisements for them. If someone makes a list and leaves any out, please tell me and I'll make an ads for those ones too. Again, I know it's a tall order, but I'm worried that I don't know them all.

Normally i'd say check TOE but the Encyclopedia is down so yeah
this is what I can remember

• Rupture Farms
• FeeCo Depot
• Bonewerkz
• Sllig Barracks
• SoulStorm Brewery
• Splinterz
• Rupture Farms Meep Ranch
• Vykkers Labs
• SoulStorm Micro Brewery
• Sloghuts
• Magog Motors
• FlubCo
• M.O.M News
• Magog Cartel
• Sekto Springs
• Farmer Beak's Oople Farm
• The General Stores located around Southern Mudos (idk if they're a chain of stores)
• Doc's Surgery
• Necrum Mines

As for Products, we have

• SoulStorm Brew
• Bone Powder
• Paramite Pies
• Scrab Cakes
• Mudoken Pops
• Meech Munchies
• Gabbiar
• All of the things Vykkers Labs makes (idk the stuff at the start of MO off the top of my head)

Yeah go nuts with that

• Butt-Flo
• Chill Pill
• Gum-Rot
• Babychow
• Lungbuster cigarettes

Home Cosmetic Surgery kits, Headburn Shampoo, sugar coated toothbrushes and disposable dentures are also mentioned in the art book and on the website but there aren't any graphics for them.

Someone forgot Slurg Sundaes.

In the art book there's a gift box of rupturefarms products, and I think one of them is called glom! and another is big-ass crackers. Any info on those?

Any idea how tall Chroniclers are? I'd assume they'd be pretty much the same height as a Glukkon. And what's with the leg thing, in the concept it appears that they only have one leg and two feet, but they apparently have two legs?

And Elum Chubs!

And Le Petit Tumor.

Hello there... I have a question, don't know if this belongs here or on the mods&hacks board... Any idea where does the background door on the following screen lead to?

http://i50.tinypic.com/ebeycn.png

It's the screen D2P01C07 from AO, in the Secret Vault (with access from Scrabanian Temple). That background way continues on the next screen, where it stops without any other door or trace of portal. Is it a scraped secret area? Has anyone tried to "shrink" Abe to get there?