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Varrok 02-18-2016 05:55 AM

Oh wait. I meant Deadpool.

What's Gravity Falls

Mr. Bungle 02-18-2016 01:21 PM

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I did say to myself I was going to watch Gravity Falls when Rick and Morty finished it's second season.

I got to ask, Do you think I'd like it?

You would probably love it, it's got just as much heart as R&M (if not moreso) and a similarly surreal and weird/quirky sense of humour (although obviously not as raunchy as R&M as that's obviously not a "kids" show).

MA 02-18-2016 02:35 PM

i just watched Life Of Pi and really enjoyed it. i thought the part near the end when the tiger just stands in front of the jungle staring in before disappearing was really sad. i could understand where Pi was coming from when he was upset that the tiger didn't look back at him or anything. i was sad to see him go. two potentially dangerous animals completely alien to one another shared a tiny boat and endured storms, starvation and dehydration without killing each other. that must be some kind of connection. if the tiger genuinely didn't care, surely he would have just killed the kid eventually? he had plenty of chances as time went on.

i'm just fascinated by alien minds and find 'understandings' between humans and non-humans amazing.

Vlam 02-18-2016 04:45 PM

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What's Gravity Falls

It's an animated series for toddlers.

Slog Bait 02-18-2016 06:31 PM

I saw Deadpool on Valentine's Day with my parents

Being someone who enjoyed the comics a lot I also enjoyed the movie a lot. I have a few gripes, mostly because of comic elitism, but the movie is probably the most accurate and respectable "super hero" movie adaptation I've seen thus far. Well, minus the gratuitous cussing. My parents also adored it.

jesus fuck i cant wait to see cable in the sequel though god damn

If you don't like the comics you probably won't like the movie period


I also saw the GF finale, and I'd have liked it so much better if there wasn't the standard Disney Death (TM) nonsense. It was a great way to end the series, but everything after the season 1 finale just felt... boring and flat. I felt like there'd be a lot more to the second season than there ended up being, especially with how season 1 was handled. MILD DISAPPOINTMENT

Also how does vlam single handedly out-sour puss the entire forum's population

STM 02-18-2016 08:52 PM

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It's an animated series for toddlers.

phat par.

Vlam 02-19-2016 03:33 AM

Slog Bait, don't you think the issue about the movie is Deadpool's hypocrisy? Sure, he spends the whole time breaking the fourth wall but at the same time it's still like any mainstream comic book movie. He doesn't do anything immoral or unexpected. Apart from that, the main actor is good (seen in "The Voices").

Varrok 02-19-2016 03:41 AM

Define "moral" and "unexptected".

He did tons of unexpected things, if you didn't know the character before.

Vlam 02-19-2016 03:45 AM

Like what? He is with the good guys side. He kills the bad guys. Happy ending. It's like any comic book movie.

Varrok 02-19-2016 03:53 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most superheroes don't actually *kill* bad guys. And don't torture them.

Vlam 02-19-2016 03:58 AM

They kill bad guys. What about The Punisher? Same thing: torture is "ok" on bad guys.

Varrok 02-19-2016 03:59 AM

Deadpool does that while being humorous. Name any other Marvel character with that mix.

Vlam 02-19-2016 04:12 AM

That's my point: if you cut the "humorous" and vulgar part, it's like any comic book movie. He doesn't make peace with his enemy. He doesn't kill some good guys for fun. That will be unexpected and make the viewers uncomfortable.

Varrok 02-19-2016 04:15 AM

Sometimes uniqueness is just a mix of things that aren't unique alone.

Vexen 02-19-2016 10:57 AM

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i just watched Life Of Pi and really enjoyed it. i thought the part near the end when the tiger just stands in front of the jungle staring in before disappearing was really sad. i could understand where Pi was coming from when he was upset that the tiger didn't look back at him or anything. i was sad to see him go. two potentially dangerous animals completely alien to one another shared a tiny boat and endured storms, starvation and dehydration without killing each other. that must be some kind of connection. if the tiger genuinely didn't care, surely he would have just killed the kid eventually? he had plenty of chances as time went on.

i'm just fascinated by alien minds and find 'understandings' between humans and non-humans amazing.

Fun fact, Havoc starred in that movie.

Slog Bait 02-19-2016 01:31 PM

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Slog Bait, don't you think the issue about the movie is Deadpool's hypocrisy? Sure, he spends the whole time breaking the fourth wall but at the same time it's still like any mainstream comic book movie. He doesn't do anything immoral or unexpected. Apart from that, the main actor is good (seen in "The Voices").

I'm pretty sure the point of the Deadpool movie wasn't to be cool, edgey, and original, but be a faithful adaptation of the crude, 4th wall breaking satirical character that brought a different type of edgelord to the "super hero" comic genre during the time when McFarlane knock-offs were over saturating the market. Which it was.

People who haven't been exposed to Deadpool before will have no idea what to expect, so I wouldn't say he didn't do anything unexpected. We had a lot of people walk out during the showing because even with an R rating, people thought it would still be kid appropriate FOR SOME REASON. Also keep in mind, some people were genuinely tricked into believing it was a romcom or just your average super hero film.

Also I wouldn't say being a mercinary is in any sense moral. Deadpool is and always will be on his own side. Sometimes that helps the Good Guys, but in general it just causes a big mess for the Good Guys to clean up, which is what Colossus's main complaint was the whole movie.

Hell, Deadpool flat out shot the Big Bad in the head in a moment of whimsey because Colossus was taking too long to give his hero speech. That's pretty immoral depending on your personal set of morals.

Man yeah him convincing that taxi driver to gut his cousin in front of his crush and then kidnap her is totally moral and good

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That's my point: if you cut the "humorous" and vulgar part, it's like any comic book movie. He doesn't make peace with his enemy. He doesn't kill some good guys for fun. That will be unexpected and make the viewers uncomfortable.

No, but he does take enjoyment in slaughtering and humiliating nearly every Bad Guy he approaches. Typically, in a hero based movie, the protagonist struggles with possibly having to kill anyone at all. Deadpool literally kills a shitload of people and responds to the slaughter with masturbating to it. I can promise that made viewers more uncomfortable than any Good Guys being killed by Deadpool would have.

Deadpool would have been more groundbreaking as a movie if the Xmen movies had been handled in a totally different manner probably

tl;dr- I believe the movie acheives what it set out to do, and is in no way hyprocratic or a movie that paints the protagonist as an actual hero

Varrok 02-19-2016 01:36 PM

I enjoy reading the hateful reviews of Deadpool on IMDB. There's so few of them, but they're a good laugh, still.

Slog Bait 02-19-2016 01:38 PM

I love every single negative review stating their basis for the negative review as "it was not appropriate for children and there should have been more warning"

Alf Shall Rise 02-19-2016 01:44 PM

There was actually a family with kids sitting a couple seats away from me when I watched it, and I heard them mumbling to each other about how it was more explicit than they thought. It's as if nobody checks movie ratings before taking their children to the theater.

Varrok 02-19-2016 01:52 PM

There was 10 people in the theather room when I watched it. I guess the other 95% went to see that other shit movie

All 10 people had lots of fun watching it.

Vlam 02-19-2016 02:27 PM

Slog Bait, I'm not saying the movie is bad. More precisely, here is my point: breaking the fourth wall for the sake of breaking it as a way to make jokes is frivolous, when at the same time he is a "good guy". I will tell you why: first of all, you will never see him with the bad guys. Heroes do the same thing as him by killing or neutralizing the enemy (seeking for revenge is pretty usual). The bad guys in the movie are depicted as garbage so the viewer is like "well, they deserve it" so he is enjoying himself. Same thing for the taxi driver, you're not suppose to like him, he isn't an innocent. Being mercinary isn't immoral: you're paid for doing something (the contract). By the way, you will see the same trick in Tarantino's movies: one character is supposed to be worst than a garbage or nazi, so it's okay for him to be torture and killed (viewers are even laughing out loud).

Finally, a movie with millions of viewers worldwide is mainstream. They will be shocked only if Deadpool killed an innocent and likeable character for no reason.

Sorry for my broken english: I can't write more complex ideas.

Slog Bait 02-19-2016 03:28 PM

The taxi driver was an innocent and it's made clear that Deadpool's advice was what resulted in the driver pulling such a stunt. When talking about what's moral and immoral, the general consensus is doing something purely for personal gain at the cost of others is immoral. The Deadpool movie is a revenge story where Deadpool exacts his revenge by killing, and he was completely comfortable slaughtering countless people on his quest for revenge, whether they were involved in his ordeal or not. That is something that would never be endorsed in any other Marvel story, nor DC, nor Darkhorse, nor any line that tends to focus on super heros, anti heros, and the like.

I know you didn't say the movie was bad, I'm giving you points that counter your statements. I don't believe the movie was at all hypocratic for the reasons I stated. It was a faithful adaptation of the comics and a successful one at that.

It's very rare you'll find any film or story at all where the antagonists aren't painted as deserving of punishment, whether they're actually a Good Guy or not. Marvel's story's usually don't do this, though. It's maybe one out of every 10 antagonists that are non-sympathetic and garbage people. Luckily, Ajax was just as garbage in the movie as he was in the comics.

Also, if the following Deadpool movies remain faithful, he will side with the antagonists at some point, specifically because he was paid to do so. There have been arcs in the comics where he was hired to kill/distract other Marvel heros, and he has killed several innocent people for things as simple as just being annoying. There have also been arcs where at some point he's actually come after Marvel heros with murderous intent because they interfered with his work.


Also also your english is fine, don't worry about it!

Varrok 02-20-2016 12:21 AM

I didn't read many Deadpool comics in my life, but I did like 20 yesterday, and I don't think he killed any good guys for no reason in those.

He did kill at least one bad guy for no reason though

Slog Bait 02-20-2016 12:33 AM

I said he's killed innocents for no reason, not good guys. Innocents being people who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and had no involvement in whatever was happening prior to the encounter.

Varrok 02-20-2016 12:46 AM

I was assuming that in comics characters are good guys by default unless said otherwise.

Mr. Bungle 02-20-2016 07:54 AM

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It's a wonderful animated series for toddlers.

Fixed that for ya.

Oh, and I've been watching the latest X-Files episodes. Reboot has been pretty great so far.

Vlam 02-20-2016 08:06 AM

Yes, suprisingly, the last X-Files episode isn't politically correct.

FrustratedAssassin 02-20-2016 11:52 AM

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Yes, suprisingly, the last X-Files episode isn't politically correct.

What do you even mean by that? Is it racist or something?

OANST 02-20-2016 12:05 PM

It had a Muslim suicide bomber in it.

Nepsotic 02-22-2016 05:36 PM

I just watched Deadpool. It was really good. I enjoyed the odd structure and the Fawlty Towers reference.
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Halfway through Bojack Horseman. Fuck this show. Haven't finished season one yet but damn, this is too real.

It's one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. So well written, so fucking DEEP.
Just wait for the penultimate episode of season 2... Damn.
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What do you even mean by that? Is it racist or something?
Yeah there's a straight white cis man in it iirc

Job McYossie 02-22-2016 09:22 PM

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It's one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. So well written, so fucking DEEP.
Just wait for the penultimate episode of season 2... Damn.
I finished it. it was horribly real

Mr. Bungle 02-22-2016 09:31 PM

The X-Files finale.

fucking cliffhangers

FrustratedAssassin 02-23-2016 02:16 AM

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I finished it. it was horribly real

When I watched the first season of that show I was already pretty depressed and I started introspecting a lot. The second season didn't have that big of an impact on be because I guess I wasn't depressed when I watched it.

Nepsotic 02-23-2016 02:37 AM

If you liked Bojack, I'd recommend Extras. It's a bit more light hearted but follows a lot of the same themes.

Varrok 02-24-2016 07:34 AM

I've just seen the worst interview ever.

It's here:


Ryan was the only redeeming part of the video

Vlam 02-26-2016 04:37 AM

Who has seen The Revenant?

Phylum 02-26-2016 05:27 AM

I refuse to see it because bear rape triggers me.

Mac Sirloin 02-27-2016 01:10 PM

I saw Deadpool, it's really entertaining and fun. Not for the kids though! I really can't stress that enough. It seemed like the most violent/"""""Mature""""" Deadpool story I've actually seen, generally I found the character obnoxious, pointless and poorly written when I read the actual Comics.

Great movie though, consistently funny and carefully constructed, considering the budget. There were a ton of silly pokes at the X-Men franchise, only thing it needed was a joke about how Jennifer Lawrence's frumpy rectangle body could never compete with Rebecca Romijn.

If you aren't exhausted by the onslaught of Comic-bookery I recommend watching it. It's pretty darn violent and the action is simultaneously goofy and exciting.

Also, the sixth season of The Venture Brothers has started airing. It's a phenomenal show and the writing is very tight. The way they maintain continuity is fantastic, events from 3 seasons ago are coming back to affect the current plot in a way that feels smooth and intentional. It's easily the best thing Adult Swim ever helped produce. If you haven't started watching it yet, do it. The Venture Brothers is excellent.

Nepsotic 02-27-2016 02:15 PM

I don't know. It seems fine for kids other than the swearing and violence, but coddling kids never helped anyone. It's a brilliant film.

Mac Sirloin 02-27-2016 07:26 PM

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I don't know. It seems fine for kids other than the swearing and violence, but coddling kids never helped anyone. It's a brilliant film.

There's a fairly explicit sex scene that goes on for about 5 minutes, an implied slobbering of Hugh Jackman's balls is described shortly before that. In the opening sequence there are brains visibly exploding out of people's heads and a guy splatters like a sack of boiled yams onto an interstate sign, kids find that kind of shit upsetting. It's got a hard 'R' rating for good reason, it's really not for kids. It's not coddling a child to keep an indulgent comprehension of sex and violence away from them until they're certainly mature enough to deal with it, because taking a kid to this is really rolling the dice on some bizarre self harm/violent ideation.