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Been gone a long while, this looks like it got significantly deeper! I'm excited again.

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The fingernails one, yes.

ndvr ninja-posted inbetween your and my messages.

EDIT: Another page ninja-posted inbetween your answer and my reply.

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This is still giving me the vibes that these muds have recently been abducted from a Soulstorm Brew stand, it looks like these muds have been just processed and marched to their workstations. Loving how dark this is getting.

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Consider this in the context of the Soulstorm press release:



And couple that with what Lorne has said in interviews regarding the Abe feature film, where he'd like to expand the story to having Abe being actually responsible for some of the situations that befall the Mudokons.

Does anyone else get the feeling like the Muds being led into the mines here, are the RF escapees? That the brew pop-up to capture Muds is being reworked so that it actually happens to Abe + Co, out of the frying pan into the fire? Where else would they find solace in brew, out in the desert?

Perhaps Abe avoids capture and follows his kidnapped friends to Necrum without any intervention from the Weirdos. Maybe he gets put to work too, and has to escape again? Maybe he has to deal with the consequences of liberating his friends from one horror, only to witness them being forced back into a worse slavery, complete with eye stitches. He'd naturally question whether he's doing the right thing at all.

Question that remains is why they'd all need to leave the Monsaic Lines in the first place :fuzconf:

Just speculating of course :)

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I think Abe's Exoddus is a miracle. I mean look at the time they had to get that game out; and it's pretty damn good. Like it's got 9/10 on Steam and reviewed well back in the day. Most games that are put under that sort of pressure don't come out well the other end. I mean I'm sure it helped that they had the engine and assets already and stuff, but there's still tons of new art and new level designs they created; it's a miracle it turned out as well as it did. The whole situation surrounding it screams failure but they managed to do it really well.

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I personally want to see more Big Face in SoulStorm. My sister and I weren't much happy when he was BARELY in Exoddus. I know he may be busy like Alf says, but we need more of the charming guy!

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I think Abe's Exoddus is a miracle. I mean look at the time they had to get that game out; and it's pretty damn good. Like it's got 9/10 on Steam and reviewed well back in the day. Most games that are put under that sort of pressure don't come out well the other end. I mean I'm sure it helped that they had the engine and assets already and stuff, but there's still tons of new art and new level designs they created; it's a miracle it turned out as well as it did. The whole situation surrounding it screams failure but they managed to do it really well.

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Yes to this. I thought it was weird that we just never see or hear from the guy ever again, not even in Munch's Oddysee - I guess the big Raisin just took his place instead. I always liked the idea of Big-Face being being Abe's mentor, like the Oddworld version of Mr. Miyagi from the classic Karate Kid films haha.

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I remember seeing an interview/documentary piece a while back that said that part of the reason they were able to keep up such great productivity that year was because Sherry McKenna banned junk food from the office and hung up fruit baskets everywhere LOL That way nobody got super sick during the crunch period xD But it really is super amazing how great of a game it turned out to be on such an unbelievably tight deadline. Huge new areas all with different aesthetics, a bunch of new enemy types with different AI's, new gamespeak commands, trickier puzzles, quiksave? It's crazy.

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The reason Big Face made a departure from the series was because Abe had surpassed him on a spiritual level.

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Still, can't just let him disappear like that! He should still provide insight on what happened to the past and such! He's still very important!

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Agreed. Abe might be more adept at chant magic than he is, but he's still probably got years of experience and wisdom that Abe doesn't have. Even if he can't teach Abe any new tricks, he'd still be a good mentor figure. Plus, I wanna hear him talk one of these days. I feel like he'd be an uncle Iroh-type character with a streak of smartass.

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You know what'd be neat?

The series has always involved preserving the Mudokons' culture, but we never get to explore it. Given how brilliant Lorne Lanning's extensive world-building must be, that's a shame.

What if, hidden throughout Soulstorm, there were secret areas with something relevant to Mudokon history (like a Guardian skeleton, or a Mudanchee warrior's tomb) to discover? And, by discovering these "relics," the player would earn little pieces of lore about them, accessible from the Main Menu. Maybe even cutscenes with Bigface explaining the "relics" to some freed Mudokons as they sit around a campfire.