I actually worked on the camp that WHAS was based on. I haven't actually seen the film or the TV show, so I can't comment on how true to life it was.

i enjoyed Firefly, haven't seen Serenity though.

what do people think of Aqua Teen Hunger Force? i've watched a few and they make me laugh on occasion but i feel like i'm missing a joke somewhere. it's very hit-or-miss. Carl cracks me up though.

also i've caught up with Superjail. it seemed to change in the last season or two, but i still love it. crazy animation.

btw if anyone has any suggestions, fire away. i know Space Ghost Coast to Coast is on my watch-list. i didn't realise ATHF was a spin-off of SGCtC until after i already started watching them, otherwise i would have watched them the other way around.

It basically tries to cram all the major plot points that the show should have explored in future seasons into a single movie. It’s a really unsatisfactory way of trying to “wrap up” the show.

I haven’t seen it, but it seemed to spring up around the same time as a whole bunch of other adult-oriented cartoons. It probably doesn’t stand up too well now.

If you have Netflix I’ve found Orange is the New Black to be very entertaining.

I started watching Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I like it.

My buddy showed me a bunch of Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell, one of the newer Adult Swim shows, I guess. It's fucking hilarious, well at least it is while stoned. Can't vouch for the sober mind, but I'm sure it's still great.

I watched it today, and this is totally right. It really does cram shit together. The first scene where it introduces the crew is so forced, just to get everyone up to speed, but it goes so fast it skims over important things. Why is Jayne totally fine with River going on the mission with them, only to revert to his usual "she's a spaz we need to kill her or leave her behind" shtick later.

It had moments that were good. But the entire premise of the guy hunting River because of what she might have mind-read from Parliament officials was kind of lame. I mean fuck I hated the whole beginning. That sequence of Simon rescuing her really made no sense. We were shown in the series that he wasn't very good in that kind of situation. I just always assumed he payed out the nose to have her delivered to him frozen as we first meet her in Firefly. But nope, they needed an establishing shot of them together.


I watched the first 8 episodes of OitNB and I just couldn't get into it. The episodes didn't really feel like episodes, they were just a series of scenes. Everyone tells me that the secondary characters make it, but they were developed in such an obtuse way I couldn't get behind it. Don't show me a character's backstory in an episode if they have nothing to do with the plot of the episode. Don't throw unnecessary exposition at me unless it's relevant to what's going on. Don't have a needlessly long dancing scene in an episode that already feels like it's hardly going anywhere. I'd guess most of these problems come from being a book adaption, but I don't know enough about the book to comment.

The episode with the chicken was fucking great, though. It basically addressed all of my criticisms, but then by the next episode I was bored for the same reasons again.

I actually feel really awkward about not liking it because all of my friends adore it so much. I think they just like it for the emotional drama they throw in rather than the actual quality, though. I mean it's obviously a well made show with good actors. I just found it really boring.

I've just seen the newest South Park episode. It perfectly nailed what's wrong with today's so called "social justice".

To be honest it was less the smaller pieces of the story that bothered me and more the broader strokes of the plot – it was like they went “well we’re never gonna get another season so we’ll cram all our major plot arcs into one thing”. It felt like the reveals of the Confederation or whatever they’re called having committed genocide and accidentally creating the Reapers, and River having superpowers or whatever were meant to be big reveals for a third season finale or something.

Oh and killing off some of the best main characters just felt like a dick move.



Honestly that’s its best selling point. It’s a character-driven show for sure, especially since the whole thing is set inside one prison for the most part. I’d say the broader drama of the plot doesn’t really show up until halfway through the first season, which if you’re not already interested in the characters is a long time to wait.

I actually really enjoy the backstory cutaways though – they may not influence the plot but it does a really great job of rounding out the characters and changing your perspective of them. I think what OitNB does so well is it presents the characters to you as people and not just prisoners, and showing how everyone wound up behind bars is in service to that end.

I watched the new Doctor Who episode tonight.
It was interesting. This series seems to be taking pacing way more seriously, as it appears every story is a multi-parter.

Sick of Clara, though. She's a non-entity.
Good to know not everybody on this forum is insane.

The season finale of Rick and Morty.

Holy fuck.

It pretty confirms it for me. Rick and Morty is the best animated show I've ever watched. The consistent quality of the show; The writing, voice acting, animation is all just outstanding.

BoJack is better. Watch BoJack. Anyway I'm off to watch the new Rick and Morty.

I've been told to watch that. Also to watch Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Archer.

On top of that, I've got to finish Stargate and start Farscape and X-Files. (I told myself to watch more Sci-Fi this year).

So I've got a lot to watch. Still. A year wait for the next Rick and Morty is going to be tough. :)

Do BoJack first. You can crack through it in a day if you're fast.

BoJack is amazing and you won't regret it.

Also,

JESUS FUCK THAT RICK AND MORTY FINALE I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN

But yeah I like BoJack more.

Yeah that Rick and Morty finale went in. BoJack though.

Rick and Morty is the best. I got on the bandwagon after season 1 ended and I loved every minute of it. Check out Community is you can stream it, it has that same realistic heartfulness as Rick and Morty. Community is a slow burn sometimes but most of the episodes are fantastic.

Bojack ain't better than Rick and Morty dog, it's too self loathing for its own good. I might have agreed with you before Season 2 just went in circles and tried to shoehorn some Bojack/Todd fun at the end but R&M usually plays things for a more meaningful tone, while Bojack pretends to do that and has it fall apart. It's part of the structure, but it loses something nonetheless.

I didn't get that business with the Owl either, like, was she 18 when she went into the coma? Because that would make her a 48 year old high school graduate...I dunno, maybe I forgot the explanation.

Season 2 of Bojack was relatively superior to S2 of Rick and Morty but that meaningfulness feels more important. Neither series had an episode that could compete with Rick Potion #9 or Downer Ending, which are just awesome. Bojack definitely has a better credits song.

Looking forward to season 3 of both though, and maybe another holiday special.

BoJack is totally better m8. It has far more rounded characters, and combines drama and tragedy with black comedy in a way that I've never seen done before in an adult animated sitcom.
I don't understand what you mean when you say it "pretends" to have a more meaningful tone. It is meaningful, and it's the best written show I've seen in a long time. I love Rick and Morty, but it's closer to South Park than it is BoJack.
I'd say the best episode of R&M is Lawnmower Dog, and the best episode of BoJack is Escape From L.A. Both are vastly different in tone and while I can't directly compare them, I'd say BoJack is the better show overall.

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It happened to Ugly Americans too, where season 1 was this great world given just enough flesh to be good and build some character and season 2 was 40% the protagonist's memespewing slacker roommate being a goofball. It doesn't help that Bojack and Diane are both arrogant, unlikable demagogues who occupy 60% of the plot by finding a soapbox to shit all over and then cry under.


Lawnmower dog is one of my least favorite episodes for some reason. I think it's Snuffles voice, it's conceptually good but the best part is when Justin Roiland as Rick just starts talking about getting poop in his mouth. I don't know what that comparison to South Park is based on but it's wrong.

Bojack often feels like something focus group tested for just the right amount of people who know both how to use Netflix and how to post on the internet about it. Rick and Morty was a science experiment Keith Crawford ejaculated into the original ATHF slot and it basically revitalized the whole Adult Swim brand in under a year, and still feels like half the episodes are just saying "Yeah you liked last weeks shit? Well this shit, this is the shit right here. This is the real shit." no matter what order I watch the episodes in.

Also this: https://vimeo.com/49664066

Snuffles is one of my favourite characters, as you can see.

Ehh, I like both shows a lot so I'm not really bothered which one people root for. I don't think that the second seasons of either show were disappointing or poor. R&M was incredibly willing to take risks and keep the show from turning into a strict formula where you always know what to expect, and I think it paid off.

You think BoJack is unlikable? I find him an incredibly relatable character and most people I've talked to like him so much because of how much they see themselves in him, me included. I don't like Diane, though. She sucks, but her fiancè Mr. Peanutbutter is great.

Also, I approve of your avatar.

Thankfully. It's possible to like more than one show. :)

I've been watching Community following Rick and Morty's downer finale. Community is something I recommend everyone should watch, but if you're at that point where you find it saccharine and annoying, as I was, try again another time. It took me awhile to get into it but it's a really sweet show, not quite as jarring or bleak as some other Dan Harmon material. It's meaningful and that's the kind of content I'm seeking.

On the other hand, boy howdy have I ever been watching some Family Guy. Apart from the musical sequences involving the stupid gay baby and the drunk dog, it gets some laughs. The 'Like that time when's...' really pile on in some episodes, yet they're rarely all that funny. I find Peter Griffin funny, he's a post-post-modern bugs bunny, a thoroughly diagnosed cartoon. I think Family Guy floats in this strange ether where a foundation of understanding about the simple world makes the constant gags at its expense funny, and without that meagre context everything seems nonsensically stupid, rather than humorously stupid. It's one of those 'I wouldn't watch it if it weren't on Netflix' shows.

I've started watching the entirety of That 70s Show, currently on ep120 out of 200
Its just freakin good comedy
Made my day when I realized all the S5 episodes are named after Led Zeppelin songs

That 70s Show started to feel like the same joke over and over after a while. It's well done and enjoyable, but there's not enough variety for 200 episodes.

Family Guys is kind of the same thing, actually. If you've never seen it before you will probably laugh more than someone who's familiar with the show's style of comedy. They're dumb cheap jokes, but it is hard to sit through an episode and not laugh. Credit where it's due for that, as much as I tend to find it irritating it these days.

I find Family Guy is much more enjoyable when you think of it as a sketch show with a loose plotline attached.

I have a really hard time enjoying Family Guy now; At least the newer seasons. The cutaway gags got really old. And most of the characters aren't that interesting. They just do the same old shit and never develop.

I always preferred American Dad anyway. I'm quite a few seasons behind that show, I wonder how it's doing?

What the hell are you doing browsing the forums when you could be watching BoJack Horseman.

This ^

The Star Wars trailer. Not a very good trailer really, but boy am I excited anyway. I contemplated a midnight screening with a friend, but while we were talking it sold out so we're going on the evening of the 18th instead.

Hooooooly shit though.

Really? I thought was a brilliant trailer. I was so worried it was going to give away some big plot point and I'm so glad it didn't.

The build up was great. Starting quiet then getting more and more action packed, I liked how it was layed out. Establishing the good guys and bad guys and really telling us who these characters are. This film has more character than the prequels combined. And oh god the music. The frigging music.

The lack of Luke is interesting. I think he's going to be mentor, and only shows himself towards the end. The "Yoda" of Episode 7 so to speak. The whole "Luke is Evil/Kylo Ren" Theory is fucking dumb. We've already seen who plays Kylo anyway.

I'm calling it now. The Force Awakens will be highest grossing film ever.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens is looking more and more like Fanservice and Pandering: The Movie.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

The trailer gave me no reason to see the movie, other than "Star Wars".

The people who made the trailer obviously knew they didn't have to do much to entice an audience, though. Flashy visuals, nostalgia and a deliberate decision to not give anything away works in your favour when you have a huge, old franchise behind you.

Yup. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I've been watching Attack on Titan (caught up, great show, excited for more), Neon Genesis Evangelion (currently marathoning, on episode 9 and I can already tell why people like it so much) and Madoka Magicka (some top notch surreal animation there, and plot wise this shit's a lot darker than I expected; but still without being too try-hard and edgy).

I think I'm becoming a weab. Anyway, yeah, anime is cool, and y'all should recommend me some more. Short series, though. Ones that actually... end. In a concise manner (10-25ish episodes seems pretty good). I just can't get into a long-running anime series, even if I can acknlowedge it's good, the idea of sitting through hundreds of episodes of anime just seems nauseating, even if I have warmed up to the style a bit more.

WataMote is really good. Watch the sub though. Same with Another.

Edit: Started watching Always Sunny in Philadelphia. It's like Friends on crack and I love it.

So me and some of my friends decided on the whim we wanted to get baked and see something at a cinema. They were doing a re-screening of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I WAS NOT ready for it...but it was an experience.

Little Nell (who plays Columbia) told me I looked fabulous last time I went to a RHPS screening. It was pretty great.

Mad Max: Fury Road.

The whole film was crazy and over the top. Bloody loved it. Excellent use and combination of practical and CGI effects making for some absolutely incredible imagery and use of lighting.

The characters looked awesome as well, especially the villains. Immortan Joe looks frigging terrifying.

He looked like a silly combination between Bane and that youtube reviewer Nepsotic likes

Jim Sterling? Funny enough he actually wore a Immortan Joe mask in one of his videos.

He still looked silly