Yeah, fucking and stuff.

You are a mad internet person and need to relax :)

edit: i would support nate in saying why you shouldn't do the vasectomy thing so soon but it's nothing you've heard before. All i'm going to say is I know a lot of people that regret something that would stick with them forever as soon as they got it.

Do whatever the fuck you want Ridg, while I stand that vasectomy is perhaps not a good idea at a young age as yours, if it's want you want go for it, but yeh, freeze some semen just in case.

Since most of the concluding thread has been split, let's get back ontopic.

Hygiene downstairs... are you bothered about cleaning yourself, or making sure your partner is cleaned?

I was oblivious to this until WoF told me otherwise, vaginas are horrid smelling unless kept in nice condition.

Discuss.

Of course you have to clean yourself downstairs or you get smegma and smelly ball sack syndrome. I don't think there's a discussion there.

I don't clean myself downstairs. I clean myself in the bathroom.

I don't think you're idiotic for thinking that you don't want kids. I think you're idiotic for undergoing surgery for a potentially permanent procedure when there are plenty of simpler methods of contraception.

While it's all well and good to say you would just adopt a kid if you change your mind, the odds are that you'd prefer your own kid in that scenario.

And I think it's none of your god-damn business. Maybe I want it to be permanent? Maybe that's the whole fucking point of going for a procedure that permanently stops you having children?

How can you say you'd never want kids? How can you know that you never will?

If you want kids you will want them to be your own.

Trust me when I say that adoption sounds a hell of a lot more appealing to me than conceiving does. And to be honest, I don't see myself wanting to ever have them, they disgust me. Also, saying that I want to have kids in the future isn't going to make it so.

Saying you don't want kids in the future won't make it so, either.

Just bear in mind that it's permanent and there's every chance that you may want your own kids in the future.

As I said earlier on, I canceled the appointment with the doctor because we had a giant bust up about the entire thing, she felt so strongly against it that she nearly called quits on the relationship so I had no choice but to call it off. I said to her that I'll wait but if she called it off over me not wanting kids then I'll have nothing holding me back from getting the operation carried out. I will go for it then.

If I do regret having this done then, hey, lesson learned. I'll just get it reversed despite the success chances. This is my decision and I really don't appreciate anybody telling me otherwise, I really don't. So don't think for a second that whatever anyone here says to me, hell, what anyone else says to me, is going to make me change my mind. I've put it on hold and that's the compromise that I've reached, even though I still feel like I should go for it. For that matter, why do you even care? It's not as if you know me personally.

It bothers me that people are prepared to make potentially permanent decisions without thinking about how they may feel in the future. I don't actually give a fuck if you do it or not.

yeah, screw people giving advice on a potentially permanent operation

Only 30% of men who had the vasectomy reversed had children.

Totally true, are condoms and the pill together such a hard task?

I have a mental image of a writhing duvet with a white cable coming out of the side.

Christian.

I clean my genitals, yes. It'd be hard not to since I clean the rest of my body.

I also give it all a trim once in a while with scissors. I'm too much of a wuss to put a razor near that delicate area.

Drunken sex is awesome!!!!!

Last time I did it I fell on the floor. I was being top and just literally stopped cumming so I stood up. Being pissed out of your mind and still in the middle of an orgasm doesen't give you much stability....................

I always keep it clear down there using a razor :p

If you shave you get stubble. Stubble chafes and prickles.

I do not want prickly balls.

I don't, you just gota make sure you get every nook and cranny, I've never had no complaints about prickly balls and I can't feel it myself.

The fuck happens if you nick your bollocks? I only trim otherwise I get curly locks forming inches long.

Warning, potentially disturbing content.

Tiny shaving cuts are inevitable. They only hurt for a day or so. Worth it.

Not worth it, I like having fluffy well cushioned balls. Unless you're a bomb shell I expect you to have the same.

The itch however, oh my god the itch. It gets unbearable at times. That lasts a bit longer than the cuts.

Pubic hair is pointless and generally unsanitary. It collects all your sweat and dead skin cells. Granted you clean it all out every time you shower, but even still. Girls/guys are brave enough as it is to venture down there, so the least you can do is keep it well-groomed. Otherwise it's like sucking on an old lollipop you found buried in the couch cushions.

Agreed. I try to trim/shave it on regular basis. The itch gets less after a while and using aftershave lotion (NOT spray) helps against irritated skin.

But, my god you people treat your bollocks bad enough as it is it's mighty dangerous as well as a little odd to have bald balls. I can understand the odd trim, even I've done that but leaving nothing left is a little more than weird. At least to me.

When I first shaved the itching was awful, but I just used some cold water and it did make things slightly more bareable. I always keep everything shaved and I get no itching anymore.

It really does make the process of giving head for your partner a lot less gross. If you would have ever given oral to a women you'd be able to appreciate a hairless groin.

Well I can't say I've received nor given oral yet. I suppose you're right though, nevertheless having my downstairs bald is a little weird to me.

What Havoc said. When you aren't having sex there's really no point. But there's nothing worse than flossing your teeth with pubes. If you aren't going to shave your pubis, at least shave your balls and taint. Your partner will be grateful.

I do appreciate a smooth pair of bollocks. Haven't done it myself, though, because I always get ingrown hairs anywhere I shave. Really don't want to experience that downstairs.

I don't like a fully-shaved crotch though. Makes me feel like I'm sleeping with a ten year old.



Of course you want it to be permanent. Just like everyone who ever got a tattoo wanted it to be permanent. Do you know how much money dermatologists make every year lasering off tattoos?

I'm not saying you're not justified in not wanting kids. I'm not saying that it's particularly likely that you're going to change your mind about having kids. What I'm saying is that, as JG said, condoms and the pill are not so incredibly inconvenient as to justify undergoing general anaesthetic, surgery, the potential for infection, all the possible side-effect of all of the above and the incredibly slight possibility that you'll change your mind when you grow up.

Well, I couldn't get to sleep tonight so at about 3AM in the morning I went and had a cut back on people's advice. It's a little sore since I pulled some out by accident but far more comfortable! You guys rock.

I understand how you think his reasoning is flawed, but there's several alternative means of having a child that doesn't involving conceiving your own.
He can just freeze his sperm before the procedure if in case he has significant paternal quakes later in life. Or he could adopt.
Why even argue his mindset? I think it's sound, even if he is being a bit of a twat in defending it.

I think there's nothing idiotic in exerting the rights over one owns body.

I keep it shaved 24/7 even when I'm not getting any sex. It just grosses me out when I haven't shaved in a while, I'll go the toilet and look down and EWWWWWWW. So yeah it's always kept clear down there.

That's just sick.............

Never once has that crossed my mind when sleeping with somebody who is shaved. I'm scared it may enter my mind now. Thank you Nate :(

I bet your university professor might have thought about it a few times what with all the hassle he gave you. XD

Twas college actually :p

It's not fair :(

Everybody thinks I'm a paedo :(

Well you shouldn't be taking picture of little children now should you. And if you insist on breaking the 300 feet rule you're only getting yourself into more trouble.