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Shade667 02-25-2015 12:35 AM

So starwin just informed me that the load times are quicker on pc, which is unfortunate.

Job McYossie 02-25-2015 12:42 AM

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So starwin just informed me that the load times are quicker on pc, which is unfortunate.

That's not unfortunate, faster load times are a good thing for the vast majority of players.

Holy Sock 02-25-2015 01:07 AM

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Hooray for waiting until noon for the game to unlock

Not hooray for waiting until 6pm! The one day I actually have plans in the evening. Gotta feel sorry for all the Australians, too.

Phylum 02-25-2015 01:07 AM

We just get to download it overnight. It's no huge shortcoming.

Xavier 02-25-2015 01:18 AM

I just had a look at the reviews of the pc version that are popping all over the net. Everybody seems to like it so much it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. :)

Holy Sock 02-25-2015 01:29 AM

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We just get to download it overnight. It's no huge shortcoming.

My fanboy blindness prevented me from considering this contingency. I'm now lost. Wednesday was supposed to be Oddworld day! Not disgusting Thursday. Oh well!

It's good to hear people are digging it.

Shade667 02-25-2015 03:52 AM

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That's not unfortunate, faster load times are a good thing for the vast majority of players.

Gonna be a hassle for us though. Either we make entirely new categories for PC (bringing it from 9 - 18) or we figure out the load times and subtract.

Wish they made an option to have console load times. Saves us the hassle.

Xavier 02-25-2015 04:00 AM

Or you can take the times the game records for you?

Shade667 02-25-2015 04:40 AM

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Or you can take the times the game records for you?

You can, but the current times are RTA. And the in game timers also inaccurate. Not only does the leaderboard times not count milliseconds, they only show your best. Its okay for the any% and 100% categories, but we have a good ending category where you only save 50% of mudokons. Im going to start routing that category in March. We could use the save file times, but they dont show seconds, only hour and minutes.

Also ive had times where the ingame leaderboards just flat out refused to update. Theyre cool for people who like running levels individually, but theyre not great for full runs. And if we ever wanted to submit them to SDA wed have to use SDA timing,which is RTA.

Its okay for me though. Im not gonna be the one to figure it out. Or we could just split the categories, but if we do that then wed have to make more if the other versions have load time differences

SligValet 02-25-2015 04:43 AM

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Gonna be a hassle for us though. Either we make entirely new categories for PC (bringing it from 9 - 18) or we figure out the load times and subtract.

Wish they made an option to have console load times. Saves us the hassle.

..Had to log in just to say this.. holy shit are you acting like a privileged spoiled baby right now or what with that last sentence. "Console loading times", seriously?

Be happy theyve added leaderboards and all the stuff in the original PS release for speedrunners, Ive seen the way you act in other threads on the forums when it comes to acting like a speedrunner who thinks he should have the game 200% tailored to fit his speedrunning needs, SOLELY because you play the game ultra competitively - and it makes me mad :(

Mr. Bungle 02-25-2015 04:51 AM

The game's supposed to be out now, right? On steam?

Why isn't it giving me the download option?

Holy Sock 02-25-2015 04:53 AM

It's not out until 6pm GMT or something like that

DarkHoodness 02-25-2015 05:03 AM

Yeah, the store page tells you when it will unlock. Shame there's no pre-loading, but anyone complaining about that will forget about it once they finally have the game.

Heh, I'm actually really excited about this. :)

Shade667 02-25-2015 05:06 AM

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..Had to log in just to say this.. holy shit are you acting like a privileged spoiled baby right now or what with that last sentence. "Console loading times", seriously?

Be happy theyve added leaderboards and all the stuff in the original PS release for speedrunners, Ive seen the way you act in other threads on the forums when it comes to acting like a speedrunner who thinks he should have the game 200% tailored to fit his speedrunning needs, SOLELY because you play the game ultra competitively - and it makes me mad :(

Lol, calm down mate. Im allowed to have an opinion.
No need for such hostility. I want a lot of things. Like to win Lotto. Doesnt mean you should be upset just because im dissapointed they didnt put something in. I just think that if theyre going to mention stuff like "advanced speedrunning techniques" then they shouldnt stop halfway. Ive put a thousand hours in the game. A few more wont kill me, even if Im not gonna like figuring this stuff out.

My opinion. Yours is probably different.

SligValet 02-25-2015 06:05 AM

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Lol, calm down mate. Im allowed to have an opinion.
No need for such hostility. I want a lot of things. Like to win Lotto. Doesnt mean you should be upset just because im dissapointed they didnt put something in. I just think that if theyre going to mention stuff like "advanced speedrunning techniques" then they shouldnt stop halfway. Ive put a thousand hours in the game. A few more wont kill me, even if Im not gonna like figuring this stuff out.

My opinion. Yours is probably different.

Not denying that you're allowed to have an opinion, just stating my observations on your behaviour and wording making you act like you're entitled as a speedrunner that they add console loading time options that would be completely redundant to anyone playing the game in the end

abe is now! 02-25-2015 06:43 AM

I still can't download it, shit....

OWI_Alex 02-25-2015 06:44 AM

The game loads levels as quick as your hard drive (or SSD) allows it to.

Havoc 02-25-2015 06:50 AM

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You can, but the current times are RTA. And the in game timers also inaccurate. Not only does the leaderboard times not count milliseconds, they only show your best. Its okay for the any% and 100% categories, but we have a good ending category where you only save 50% of mudokons. Im going to start routing that category in March. We could use the save file times, but they dont show seconds, only hour and minutes.

Also ive had times where the ingame leaderboards just flat out refused to update. Theyre cool for people who like running levels individually, but theyre not great for full runs. And if we ever wanted to submit them to SDA wed have to use SDA timing,which is RTA.

Its okay for me though. Im not gonna be the one to figure it out. Or we could just split the categories, but if we do that then wed have to make more if the other versions have load time differences

Dude, seriously, I'm not a speedrunner of any form and even I know that SDA has rules for timing of various sorts that deal with exactly this type of problem. Timing is done from the moment you gain control till the moment you lose control of the character. Load times influencing your run are thus BS.

Now for fuck sake keep your speedrunning crap in its own topic.

Shade667 02-25-2015 06:51 AM

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Not denying that you're allowed to have an opinion, just stating my observations on your behaviour and wording making you act like you're entitled as a speedrunner that they add console loading time options that would be completely redundant to anyone playing the game in the end

Its not completely redundant to everyone.
In the end it was just me nitpicking. There are other things they could have put in like mod support, but me requesting a feature makes me entitled.


@Havoc. If you time from moment you gain control to moment you lose control, then load times DEFINATELY matter. If the PC version loads even 2 seconds faster, thats at least 2 minutes faster than the ps4 version. We cant keep that competitive if noones on a fair playing field.

And this never started out on speedrunning. It was me nitpicking about load time variations. I never intended to veer into speedrunning itself. Xavier asked about IGT so I answered.

DarkHoodness 02-25-2015 08:24 AM

Apparently Steam is letting some people install N'n'T (not me yet though, perhaps the servers are busy). It might be worth trying now if you're waiting for it.

SligValet 02-25-2015 08:27 AM

Installing now :D omigodomigodomigod I've been waiting for this day since they announced it was "Abe HD".. hnnnnnnnnnngggg

Nath 02-25-2015 08:28 AM

I'm downloading it now...

Nepsotic 02-25-2015 08:30 AM

Why can't I download it yet ;_;

DarkHoodness 02-25-2015 08:35 AM

Restarting Steam didn't help, I had to restart my entire computer to get it to work - Try that if you can't download it yet. 4.7 GB download. :)



Slow internet is slow.

Nepsotic 02-25-2015 08:36 AM

Ditto.

E: You think yours is bad? I bridged two connections; my 4G from my phone (broadcasting as WiFi) and my shitty Plus Net broadband via ethernet. Two connections and look at my DL speed http://puu.sh/gchPX/366b9eface.png

DarkHoodness 02-25-2015 08:57 AM

That is kinda slow, but if it makes you feel better I have both router and phone line problems, so keep being disconnected every few minutes. :P

Oh well, been waiting years, so what's a few hours more?

Job McYossie 02-25-2015 09:06 AM

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Restarting Steam didn't help, I had to restart my entire computer to get it to work - Try that if you can't download it yet. 4.7 GB download. :)



Slow internet is slow.

I did that and still nothing Q.Q I was hoping to download it while I went out today.

EDIT: I literally stared at it for a bit and the install button popped up suddenly before my eyes. It was kinda magical.

leocrow 02-25-2015 09:31 AM

40 minutes left for my download to finish, hurray!

STM 02-25-2015 09:39 AM

Lolol my laptop is literally too shit to run it. I get about 5 fps.


Brb crying.

ZuZu 02-25-2015 09:43 AM

downloading it now, couldn't possibly be anymore excited.