People can get all kinds of STD's from all kinds of stuff. Kissing, blowjobs, just rubbing, blood transfer, misuse of medical equipment, you name it.
Or to use a very appropriate quote: Assumption is the mother of all mistakes. |
So... I should get cling film for my tongue? I agree with what you're saying and appreciate you telling me. I think I should mention, even though I know it only takes the once, that we only ever did that once just to see what the experience was like. After that one time we went back to the condoms and we'll continue to use them.
On the topic, has anyone considered using/uses two+ forms of contraception to be extra sure or simply by coincidence? |
Coincidence, yes.
She was on the pill, but I still wore a condom. I wasn't taking any chances. |
I've already said to my girlfriend that she should consider going on the pill or something, and I would still use condoms if she decides to do so. Although, I'm quite looking forward to these bad boys: Contraceptive pill for men.
I'm also thinking for a vasectomy, I think I've already discussed this with you Dix outside the forums? But yeah, I would like one of those. |
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There is a risk of loss of desire though. Though I can't recall if this was a purely mental issue. |
I've done my research on it and apparently there is no effect on your sex drive. I may actually go to my GP sometime next week and ask about it. I don't think I'll put any sperm on ice either... if I want a kid, I'll adopt one that needs a family.
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My GF absolutely refuses to use any kind of contraceptive that uses hormones, because she doesn't like the idea of that stuff messing with her body. I can respect that, but that also means the inconvenience of a condom.
I've been pondering a vasectomy as well, even though the sheer idea of a needle going anywhere down that area is completely horrifying. It would solve a lot of problems though. Just one snip and you never have to worry about pregnancy again. |
Well, it could reverse itself but that's pretty damn rare and I'm uncomfortable as well about the whole needle/scissor/scalpel thing but I would still go for it, no questions asked. I'd probably ask for it to be done scalpel free style.
As for the pill, I wouldn't force my girlfriend to take them, I just asked her to consider it and I'd understand if she doesn't want to go on it. Speaking of my girlfriend, I might not even tell her what I've got planned for my vas deferens. |
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And Sekto, I think the loss of desire thing varies from person to person. My dad had a vasectomy not long after I was born, and he has the sex drive of a 16 year old. So, I don't think there's any long-term complications as far as I'm aware. |
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I'm not using condoms at the moment. In a long-term relationship I don't think it matters too much when you know the rules; she's on the pill, and we stopped using condoms because it's better without and it's cheaper. I suppose I'll start going on the man-pill when that becomes widely distributed, but having been doing it without a condom and with her on the pill for over a year and a half now and having no scares, I trust in the success rate of the pill.
On an unrelated note, how do I talk my girlfriend into a threesome with another girl? Discuss. |
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Also, put yourself in her shoes. If she asked you to have a threesome with another man, would you be okay with it? I'm sure you're going to spout off about how it would be 'gay', or how it's different because there would be another penis involved, but the principles are exactly the same. |
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Actually I think that to say that threesomes and relationships are problematic is unfair. Maybe for the majority it's problematic because most people don't know what on earth they are doing, or they are strictly monogamous. But if a relationship has enough openness and trust and good communication it can work. Different kinks for different people, right? What about those swingers? They seem to be enjoying themselves a lot. In fact I've heard about many relationships where it seems to work. I think me and Chris had a sort of kind of threesome once, but I dunno if it counts. It was a bit weird. But we never felt bad about it. I enjoyed it. So to say that there's one truth and one truth only regarding relationships(Im not saying you said this) is wrong. But some people are strictly monogamous, while others feel good and able to play with more partners. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with either scenario as long as people enjoy themselves and aren't having problems out of it. But maybe Im not one to talk considering im quite unconventional x_x Edit: Yet again, I said too much, didn't I? :D |
Good points all.
To clarify a few things, if she asked me for a threesome, honestly I wouldn't be offended, but perhaps a little curious as to why. I've mentioned to her since we started going out that a threesome would be ace, and that's almost three years ago now. She agreed that it would be better with an extra girl rather than a guy, and assured me that I could probably handle two women (which was LOL, by the way :p). Main question here is, how would you go about asking? By the way, there are no trust issues. It's purely curiosity which drives this desire. EDIT: :
However, T-nex, I'm curious as to what a 'sort of kind of threesome' encompasses. It's an incredibly vague summary. :p |
I suggest that if you do ask, try it when shes horny or a situation like that (I did) Doesn't seem like a good idea just to walk up to her when shes watching tv and saying "Would you like a threesome?"
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But goresplatter, what kind of threesome would you be willing to have?
What if you ask her for a threesome and she says: YES! Sounds like a GREAT idea! Who will the other guy be?? |
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But yes you do have a very good point. I may perhaps try it soon... :
If a two guy threesome was suggested, I have no idea. No question about it if it was someone like Johnny Depp, heheh. Probably depends on why and how, and whether I'd get my preference as sexual payment (we all know this exists, don't deny it). I do, however, refer you to this song; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw |
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Luckily I'm in a relationship where we both realize that we simply like looking at other people as well. So she's allowed to look, flirt and have sex with others and at the same time so am I. That doesn't mean we don't love each other. We love each other immensely and our sex live is much above average. We're not lacking anything except the 'thrill of the hunt' as it were. So for us a threesome would work (in fact, we're looking for a female participant but for some reason those are surprisingly hard to find). But a relationship like that does require an open mindset that not a lot of people (want to) have. And if it's not for you, it's not for you. Like T-nex said; different kinks, different people. :
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You should stick to your twosomes and be grateful for it.
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To be fair, some people ARE strictly monogamous, and do not function well with a polyamorous person. This can be both guys or girls. And no, not all guys get off on their gf doing it with another girl. If one acknowledges the polyamorous side of things, they must acknowledge monogamy too.
Also no details for YOU mistah.... Some things are better left for imagination!... wait.. no. Dont. Edit: BM, people should stick to what makes them happy. |
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Perhaps it was only 'sort of' a threesome, because the other participant was, in fact, dead? Yes, that is the ONLY possibility! You must be sick! ;) |
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Swingers are a breed of their own. I think boredom is a huge factor there, but that's my own personal opinion. |
When my boyfriend was here then we would not sleep with others unless it was a threesome (which hasent happened, yes my post did say I aranged one but things got in the way)
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Now he's away for the summer. We have given each other permission to go off for some fun, but whether we choose to actually do that is another thing, so far we haven't. If he does then I won't mind, because I know it will just be a one off and that he still loves me. |
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So that means that for YOU threesomes wouldn't work. But for others it adds great pleasure and excitement to their life. Maybe it is boredom, but different people have different likes and dislike. And some people like experimenting sexually. Meaning, if they dont get the sexual exploration they so desire, they might actually get bored. Nothing wrong with monogamous, or poly people in my opinion. none at all. And, telling you this is probably going to lower your opinion of me and my relationship. But I was the one who initially encouraged Chris to experiment with other people if he desired. Personally I find it quite hot, and despite everything, I know we have a deep bond that is impenetrable. I know this from the bottom of my heart. So there you have an example of how people can be totally different, and still function. I just ask that you be open minded and realize that people get happiness and pleasure from different things. And what might not work for one person, might be gold for the other. |
I'm gonna agree with DI. I see little point in letting your partner go off to sleep with someone else. I'd want to have my partner all to myself, and I'd be extremely happy with that. I have a lot more to say on this matter, but I've expressed it on another site a few times and I'm tired of repeating myself.
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Yes Jordan, but because you are happy that way, doesn't mean everyone is.
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If my missus suggested (during a period we're apart) that it's okay to see other people, I would go ape-shit insane with her. I would automatically think that she's been doing the dirty on me and feeling so guilty about it she suggests that I could go and defile someone else. I think for someone to suggest that to you they're already thinking about hooking up with someone else in the first place and just looking for your say so by saying that you're allowed to sleep with other people as well.
I'm with DI on this one. What's the point in being in a relationship if you're going in it with the intention of having sex with someone else down the line. Open-relationships are alien to me, and I never liked the sound of it. It would be situations like that where I would either get really possessive or really spiteful and that isn't good chemistry for a healthy relationship. In my own opinion. |
I'm not condemning other people for doing it. I don't understand it, but if it makes them happy then so be it. I'm sorry if I came across as a twat there.
I wouldn't like it if I had a partner that proposed an open relationship. >_< |
I think there's something to be said for suddenly turning round to your partner and saying 'How about threesomes then?'
It's subverting the premises a commited relationship is built on. If you want an open relationship then anything less than letting your partner know about it before or as soon as you get into a relationship is like changing the rules of a game halfway through. AKA: Cheating. |
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I only asked because it's something I've never done before and I want to try. If I was told no then I wouldn't ask again. But it's always nice to know whether your partner would be up for it. |
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There's very little you can do to not make a request for a threesome sound like 'I'm growing disinterested in you' and girls take that very very badly. |
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Bring a lady or a gentleman into the bedroom and throw them at your partner. See how things go from there ;)
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I wanna throw gentlemen at people :( That'd be fun. Like... Pillow-fight style.
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Haha, 'lower my opinion' of your relationship? I don't care about your relationship. I wasn't trying to personally attack what you and Chris may or may not do, but as per usual, you've found a way to take what I've said personally. Let me make something clear: I really don't give a fuck what any of you do with your lives. As long as you're not abusing children or animals, have fun. Okay? Anyway, something you said seemed pretty contradictory : "Maybe it is boredom, but different people have different likes and dislike. And some people like experimenting sexually. Meaning, if they dont get the sexual exploration they so desire, they might actually get bored. " Okay, wait. I'm all for sexual exploration and figuring out what defines you as a sexual being, blah blah. But to bring another person, a person you're committed to, into that exploration, isn't always fair. Is it fun? Sure. But what happens when one person likes something, or someone, more than the other partner? Someones feelings get hurt, and someone will get left in the dust. Exploration and definition should be done casually and early on, not in the midst of a relationship where another persons feelings are potentially at stake. And boredom? Really? If boredom is the deciding factor for a couple having a threesome, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN A RELATIONSHIP. If you're so fucking bored with the person you're with that you need to bring another body into the mix, why are you wasting each others time? Again, it seems selfish. So you can say that I'm being condemning. I don't care what you want to call it. I don't think threesomes are wrong, and I applaud and encourage people to explore their sexuality. However, I wish they would all do so in a manner that poses no risk to anyone else. Ideally, this would be outside of a relationship. But whatever, agree to disagree. |