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abe is now! 05-16-2012 10:07 AM

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Wasn't Necrum a walled city of the dead? With stacked tombs, I assumed the underground mines were catacombs or a grand sepulchre of some description.

But it could also be a Mudomo or a Mudanche vault. About Mudomo and Mudanchee, I have always wondered why OWI didn't draw any Mudokon of those tribes. And also a village where they lived.

xXxrenhoekxXx 05-25-2012 12:31 AM

I haven't been here for long so sorry if this question was already asked,

in abe's exodus
abe had to use a train to get from feeco depo to slig barraks and boneworks, if he had to take a train to these places then how'd he get back?

and for that matter how'd he end up at that door at the beginning of feeco?

Nepsotic 05-25-2012 04:13 AM

Maybe he used wells. Or maybe he did use a train, but there was no cutscene for it. I have wondered this too.

Phylum 05-25-2012 04:16 AM

I've recently been questioning the logistics of the wells.

How do they even begin to work?

xXxrenhoekxXx 05-25-2012 04:19 AM

magic gravity?

Nepsotic 05-25-2012 04:20 AM

I've also been querying this. I have come to the conclusion, that at the bottom is an air piston-type thing, that pushes abe up in the other direction. Taking him to wherever he needs to be.

On the other hand though, in paramonia and scrabania, he comes out feet first.

MeechMunchie 05-25-2012 04:22 AM

I always assumed it was some kind of tube system connected to a giant underground air-pumping tree. Though one would assume that the air seal between Abe and the well walls would be less than tight.

Phylum 05-25-2012 04:31 AM

It definitely works on air-pressure, but how does he travel such vast distances in them?

MeechMunchie 05-25-2012 04:37 AM

More air pressure.

Phylum 05-25-2012 04:52 AM

I'm convinced.

xXxrenhoekxXx 05-25-2012 05:24 AM

I'm still waiting for my answer about the trains in feeco...

DesertBuzzard 05-25-2012 09:07 AM

In AO wells never appeared in Rupture Farms which gives me the impression they were made by mudokons. If so, why do they appear in industrial facilities in AE (and MO)?

Nepsotic 05-25-2012 09:44 AM

Maybe RF jist had no need for wells.

xXxrenhoekxXx 05-25-2012 06:59 PM

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In AO wells never appeared in Rupture Farms which gives me the impression they were made by mudokons. If so, why do they appear in industrial facilities in AE (and MO)?

I'm guessing they discovered the wells in the mudoken temples and stole their idea for fast transportation.

I still want to know the answer to feecos magical doors.

Nate 05-25-2012 07:10 PM

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I'm still waiting for my answer about the trains in feeco...

There is no canonical answer. This is about the best you're likely to get.

xXxrenhoekxXx 05-25-2012 07:32 PM

I guess...
I don't know why but the trains were my favourite parts.

Nepsotic 05-25-2012 07:38 PM

I can understand that, there was some brilliant scenery in some of those cutscenes.

Connell 06-06-2012 11:25 AM

what happens if you kill 150 and save 150 in Exoddus... I presume you are still presented with the good ending?

Nepsotic 06-06-2012 11:58 AM

Maybe thats not possible? As theres certain ones you have to save. No, thats stupid. I don't know the answer. I think you'd get the good ending. Try it!

Wil 06-06-2012 12:36 PM

There's an Exoddus save file editor somewhere that would let you test every value of Rescues against every value of Casualties if you had that kind of patience.

xXxrenhoekxXx 06-09-2012 12:53 AM

I have another question
how come the boardroom in the intro is in zulag one (because that's where you start) but when you reach the end in zulag 4 the boardroom's there as well?
unless they were built right next to each other which is a dumb design choice :P

Nate 06-09-2012 01:05 AM

Abe ran quite far in the intro movie, and fell a significant distance. They're close, but not that close.

Also, Abe wouldn't have taken the most direct route from Zulag 1 to the boardroom. He needed to travel through all the Zulags to free the other Mudokons.

Mr. Bungle 06-11-2012 08:06 PM

Here's a question: why are the blind Muds in Exoddus white? Did they ever really give reason for this other than making it so you can tell them apart from the regular green Muds?

Nate 06-11-2012 10:10 PM

I don't know if this is canon or not, but I always assumed it was because they had been trapped underground in the mines for so long.

Sekto Springs 06-11-2012 10:37 PM

Mudokons are chameleonic to some degree. I figured the white palor was due to the trauma of having their eyes sewn shut, like how one's hair turns white in situations of extreme fear and distress. Or perhaps without the ability to see and react to their environment, their chromatophores go "dead" so to speak. Both of these phenomena have been documented in actual chameleonic creatures, so either way.

MeechMunchie 06-12-2012 12:20 AM

They're albinos. They can't see very well anyway, so the Glukkons put them to work in the mines.

Wil 06-12-2012 01:42 AM

They lose their skin pigmentation by spending so much time underground, in the dark. You can see the same effect in Sewer Slegs.

Nepsotic 06-12-2012 07:43 AM

So basically the opposite of a tan?

Wil 06-12-2012 08:16 AM

Yeah, basically.

Bullet Magnet 07-02-2012 07:42 PM

You get the same effect outdoors in England.

Nepsotic 07-03-2012 12:10 AM

Believe me, I know.

MeechMunchie 07-03-2012 09:52 AM

I don't believe you.

Connell 07-03-2012 01:30 PM

What does Sic'em mean? The phrase seen on the Slog Kennels in Oddysee

Nepsotic 07-03-2012 01:37 PM

Something along the lines of get them or kill them I think, its also heard on that movie 'Stand By Me' and the Family Guy spoof, but those are the only times I've heard it. I think its just 'fuck 'em up!' basically.

Wil 07-03-2012 01:55 PM

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktion...ic#Etymology_2

Wil 07-04-2012 08:29 AM

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I do have a question actually, fortunately...in the AO menu screen, with Abe's head, he's surrounded by, what I presume to be tribal hieroglyphs, or pictograms, or something. Any way, I've identified most of them, but I was wondering if anyone knew what the ones I can't work out are..are?

Using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtqsThM41jc and going clockwise from bottom left to bottom right I have:

1 elum
2 ?
3 ? (vyker or glukkon?)
4 mudokon
5 scrab
6 slog
7 ?
8 slig
9 paramite

Ta.

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Max, do you know what number two is? It's bugging the hell outta me!

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It's a Mudokon. His ponytail is sticking out to the right. Above him is an eye symbol.

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STM 07-04-2012 10:10 AM

Ahh, so perhaps it's a sign of enlightenment or something? Thanks Maximus!

+rep

MeechMunchie 07-04-2012 11:12 AM

I think it's the Mudokon symbol for their messiah (i.e. Abe). You have the eye in the "Bring us to the birds" message.

STM 07-04-2012 11:18 AM

It makes sense, I thought perhaps the eye was synonymous with being enlightened with the power of chanting/shrykull. Both ideas are not dissimilar however.

Bullet Magnet 07-04-2012 12:59 PM

http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...5&d=1341415753

What species has that sort of eye?