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KintoKid 08-18-2008 10:57 AM

This isn't a question, but rather, an observation concerning 1%ers. I don't think it really warrants creating a new thread, however. Apologies if this connection was previously established (search feature didn't work for me), but:

I've never seen this explained (although I did just notice that the Oddworld Encyclopedia's Oddworld FAQ does mention that 1%ers are bikers), but having recently started reading Hunter S. Thompson's Hell's Angels, I finally made a connection in terms of the origin of their (nick?)name:

"This compact description of rancid, criminal sleaziness is substantially correct except for the hocus-pocus about the one percenters. All Angels wear this patch, as do most other outlaws, and all it means is that they are proud to be part of the alleged one percent of bike riders whom the American Motorcycle Association refuses to claim." -Thompson, Hell's Angels, pg. 8

The "biker" description certainly matches the concept art (here - despite the "meetle," this is the only concept art of a 1%er that we've caught a glimpse of, if I'm not mistaken), given the leather jacket / overall menacing disposition, as well as the whole 1%er business.

According to what little I've read so far, the Hell's Angels were/are pretty notorious for wholly embracing their status as "outlaws," and many members participate in committing all sorts of lewd and obscene acts of violence and sexual abuse. I'm guessing Oddworld's 1%ers follow suite - probably ten-fold.

"We're the one percenters, man - the one percent that don't fit and don't care. [...] We've punched our way out of a hundred rumbles, stayed alive with our boots and our fists. We're royalty among motorcycle outlaws, baby." -Thompson (quoting a member), Hell's Angels, pg. 3

I can only imagine what a motorcycle on Oddworld must look like....

Bullet Magnet 08-18-2008 11:45 AM

The 1%er may be atop one.

Xavier 08-18-2008 11:59 AM

sounds like you have found something there... thanks for the heads up

Wil 08-18-2008 03:10 PM

It’s good to have you back, KintoKid. You’re certainly not the first to spot the parallels with the name, but it’s not a connection anyone might spot. I think it was my dad who first alerted me to the similarity.

crazysteef 08-19-2008 12:01 PM

I know this is a little late, but that's so sad that Stranger's an orphan! So if he grew up without parents, did he take care of himself or did someone else raise him?:fuzconf:

MeechShrykull1029 08-19-2008 12:47 PM

Well, if Steef are wildlife, he probably took care of himself. What's that dripping noise in Mudomo?

alf's brother's mate 08-19-2008 12:55 PM

You could be a little more precise you know, ms1029. If you told us properly then I might be able to tell you.

ABM

crazysteef 08-19-2008 12:59 PM

Yeah, but even scorpions need their mums to protect them when they're little and defenseless. I'm assuming the same applies to steefs.

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What's that dripping noise in Mudomo?

What do you think it is?

Sanssouci 08-19-2008 01:37 PM

Obviously steef and scorpions are very similar creatures

Fuzzle Guy 08-19-2008 01:38 PM

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I know this is a little late, but that's so sad that Stranger's an orphan! So if he grew up without parents, did he take care of himself or did someone else raise him?:fuzconf:

How do we know Stranger is an orphan?

Sanssouci 08-19-2008 01:40 PM

Dear Lorne told us

crazysteef 08-19-2008 02:09 PM

By that I meant that even (the cue word is even) an arachnid that grows up very quickly needs some care in its youth. Mammals take a lot longer to grow up and require a lot more care than insects and arachnids do. This leads me to think someone must have taken care of Stranger in his early days. Assuming, of course, that he is indeed a mammal.:fuzzle:

Bullet Magnet 08-20-2008 04:43 AM

Ever heard of feral children?

Zerox 08-20-2008 06:55 AM

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Yeah, but even scorpions need their mums to protect them when they're little and defenseless. I'm assuming the same applies to steefs.

Not all invertabrates need parental care. Many reptiles and other vertabrates do without it, seldom talking about scorpions. Scorpions are one of few (though not as few as you'd think) examples of invertabrate parental care, since usually it's not necessary.

Orphan could mean at only a few years old, but by 4 or 5 (equivalent) age, he may be able to take care of himself anyway, possibly taught, but perhaps not. Also, probably be easier for him than human, due to (guessing) more herbiverous diet perhaps, and that he may have been able to walk and run at an earlier age, comparable to animals such as reindeer and wildebeest, able to run usually within 24 hours of birth. Raised by animals for a short period may be plausible, however, assumign that's what BM meant.

We just don't know enough about his personal background, or certain facts about Steef to make an especially acurate assumption.

crazysteef 08-20-2008 12:40 PM

I hope Lorne gives us some answers soon.:fuzzle:

abe is now! 08-21-2008 02:17 AM

In the Magog Motors (I think, I don't remember well) there is a screen that shows an old movie, that was a clip of the old version of MO if memory serves me right. So, what does it mean in Munch's Oddysee for XBOX?

Xavier 08-21-2008 02:28 AM

Easteregg, according to some of the Inhabitants...

abe is now! 08-21-2008 04:25 AM

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Easteregg, according to some of the Inhabitants...

What? I can't understand... :( The movie is an easteregg?

Nate 08-21-2008 04:49 AM

OWI made that movie to prove the quality of the footage they were expecting to produce for MO and later games. The designer for that level found that he had some system memory spare and decided to put the video in as a bonus for the fans.

Wil 08-21-2008 04:50 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(media)

abe is now! 08-21-2008 10:02 AM

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OWI made that movie to prove the quality of the footage they were expecting to produce for MO and later games. The designer for that level found that he had some system memory spare and decided to put the video in as a bonus for the fans.

So they had to fill a hole and they didn't know how to do it and then they put it there to do it... XD! But I meant in the game, what was it supposed to be?

Xavier 08-21-2008 10:08 AM

They didn't really have a hole they had to fill... It's not like there was a big wall with nothing on it and had no clue what to put on. :p They just had some memory place left and decided to put something on the wall that took more memory than a standard texture.

And for the in-world interpretation, you might see it as some inspirational propaganda made for Sligs, which was a huge failure because most of them were sleeping in that facility anyway. (if my memory serves right)

Bullet Magnet 08-21-2008 01:00 PM

And it was stuck on an infinite loop. Don't forget that.

Fuzzle King 08-22-2008 08:25 AM

i think this is the right place,so here it goes.
iv just started playing SW properly(i tried before but left it for awhile so i started again).anyway iv just killed elboze freely and have just found there is a black market in new yolk city,but i needed a password to get there after killing x'plosives.is there any other way of getting it now iv gone past him?
its probably nothing special but i just wanted to know.

Xavier 08-22-2008 08:58 AM

The password is given by a Clakker in New Yolk. She's situated halfway to the elevator when you are coming from the shop, somewhere on the right side of the main street. She's speaking much louder then the rest, shouldn't be too hard to locate.

I'm not sure when she appears or disappears though.

Fuzzle King 08-22-2008 09:35 AM

thanks!
its just that i heard you can only get the password after getting x'plosives but before signing a new bounty.i half way through getting fatty mcboom boom,just gotta get him and ill try it.

Wil 08-22-2008 01:46 PM

No, Maggie (the Clakker who gives the password) disappears when you take out another bounty. You’ve missed out but, frankly, it doesn’t make much of a difference. The Black Market gives you barely any advantage.

Xavier 08-22-2008 10:25 PM

How did you find out her name? Trough the ripped files?

Nate 08-22-2008 11:28 PM

OMG... THAT CLAKKER IS THE GLUKKON QUEEN!!!!!?!

Wil 08-23-2008 12:27 AM

Hey, I have to put up with you and Fuzzle Guy having the same name. Oddworld is ten times bigger than Earth, but they don’t necessarily have ten times as many names.

Fuzzle King 08-23-2008 12:32 AM

actually iv just bountied mcboom boom and took him back to the town and oddly enough i found her and got the password.strange...
anyway thanks for the help but iv noticed that now my secrets out in the game i have lost my ammo and steel knuckles,so iv just wasted my money.o well.

Nate 08-23-2008 02:55 AM

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Hey, I have to put up with you and Fuzzle Guy having the same name. Oddworld is ten times bigger than Earth, but they don’t necessarily have ten times as many names.

I concede your point but defend myself by claiming that I was shouting it ironically, before anyone made a serious post asking that.

Or perhaps I just like to spam.

crazysteef 08-25-2008 04:11 PM

Is there only one Glukkon Queen alive at one time, or are there multiple ones scattered all over Oddworld?:fuzconf:

Wil 08-25-2008 05:06 PM

There are multiple Glukkon Queens, each with their own industrial empire.

abe is now! 08-27-2008 03:26 AM

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There are multiple Glukkon Queens, each with their own industrial empire.

Is the Magog Cartel the most important of them?

Nate 08-27-2008 03:51 AM

Lady Margaret is only one member of the Magog Cartel. There are a number of families of many species that run the Cartel.

Munch's Master 08-27-2008 04:44 AM

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Lady Margaret is only one member of the Magog Cartel. There are a number of families of many species that run the Cartel.


Many species? As in ones besides Gluks, Vykkers, Sligs (Skillya), etc. (possibly Chroniclers?), that is to say, unseen species?

Nate 08-27-2008 04:54 AM

Heh, I actually had to go back to my interview to see whether he mentions that in a bit that's already been published. Seeing as it's coming this friday, I won't answer it here.

abe is now! 08-27-2008 11:26 AM

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Lady Margaret is only one member of the Magog Cartel. There are a number of families of many species that run the Cartel.

And who told it? I mean, how can you know that?