It's illegal, and it's OWI who suffers. Not gonna happen.

Ok, ok, don't anger. I only asked. But what about Squeek: who is it? What is its appearance? How is it? So if I can't have an image, can I have an impression of it?

Give up. Please.

GFT.

You won't get any description of Squeek whatsoever. Nobody has seen him or heard anything about him except he's most probably a small creature.

Uhhh, nooo. :fuzconf: I just wanted to know the numbers, otherwize when I go though the game and kill as many as I can I might miss 1 and will have to start all over, wasting alot of time. :fuzmad: Since it's fairly obvious that nobody wants that to happen to them it would have helped to get answer thats a sure fire way to get the black quama, but if nobody can give me the answer thats fine, no need to be rude. I just figured that this would be the place to ask.

Even if you know the total numbers, how would you know you had missed one until the end of the game?

Just check the information boards at every level and see that you've killed all the local muds and fuzzles.

You know, ill be honest with ya, I haven't play MO in a while and I had completely forgotten about the infomation boards.

Time to kill!:fuzvamp:

Thank you

Abe is now, you can't see squeek in any place, even the official artwork book
Squeek is just a name, he has no game/story either.. :fuzsmile:

About Lady Margaret, there is two pictures of her.. The first one is the one I posted and the other one is in the official book
It is illegal to scan the pages, but you can see a preview of the book here
The image is very small, but better than nothing :)

Ok, I'm changing argument, but there is another image. I have to attach it, because I don't remember where I found it in the web. I don't find it in TOGG, so it isn't from it. I'm trying to find it in TOGG, if I will do it, I will delete this image and I link it. Thank you for help :).

it's from TOGG
http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...php?menu=CAAE4

I can tell from the name of the file you attached "CAAE0102.jpg"
CA Concept Art
AE Abe's Exoddus

That is awesome. The Brewery in the Mudos Wastes, yes?

I've never seen that one before. Those don't look like muds to me...

heh it's one of the very few TOGG exclusive pictures...

I didn't get any info with it :)

Those strange creatures look like Mudokons. Perhaps is the back of Brewery, I didn't see that particular desert when I arrived to the Brewery. The desert in the back could be different. Maybe not Mudos...

Perhaps those creatures are Mudokons on Elums. They do have the appearance of a Mudokon on an Elum. Although it is still awkard...

I must admit, this is a very interesting picture.

I think that creatures aren't Mudos's Mudokons. I think they are from another continent. And it is the back of the Brewery that we can't see in the game. Is it possible? Does someone know something about it?

They look like muds to be. They're just standing/drawn weird.

That's clearly the Brewery in the distance.

Yes, I think they are Mudokons, but I think they are not from Mudos continent or not from AE. They have strange hair. It looks like Hand of Odd Mudokons's hair. Or native Mudokons.

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...=CAMO0097.jpg4 Anyone know what this guy is? He looks like some vykker gabbit hybrid, I think the picture mentions something of his eyesockets.

I don't think it is a hybrid, I think it is the production of a Vykker and who designed this image wanted to exalt the head of the Vykker.

Seriously, they look just like normal mudokons to me. They're looking towards the brewery. Same hair, same body, same posture, same everything. The only new feature are those javelins.

It's just a Vykker who has removed his arms. You know, for fashion.

Yeah, that brewery pic is very interesting ...
They are mudokons though, as said above, they've got the same hair, spears and everything, otherwise I'd say they're early grubbs.
But there's a small thing amounst the muds, I wonder what it is, I'd say it was a gabbit if it wasn't an AE pic.

I disagree. They look far too short and stocky to be muds. Maybe Gabbits with feathers on their heads. Or possibly Grubbs.

It's an early design of a Vykker. They initially didn't have arms and had to use robotic ones.

Perhaps you are right, Nate...... but I didn't even understand what is a Grubb. What is it?

It's a race of intelligent creatures introduced in Stranger's Wrath. They sort of look like fish humans.

They are the natives of SW, they are SW's answer to muds basically, but Lorne wanted to seperate SW from the other games and therefore introduced new speacies.
They were supposed to have toad companions, which brings me to my question, do those toad things technically still exist in oddworld, or was their idea cut?
Oh, and to lorne more about grubbs, play SW, I would tell you but they are quite closely intergrated into the story, and I don't want to ruin it for you.

Scuba Toads had to be removed from the game because their arms were too short to be of any use: the realtime models couldn’t even row, that being their main purpose. They still exist in the Oddworld universe, and I expect we’ll see them properly one day.

Max, on the subject of Scuba Toads, do we know any backstory to them? I know that Scuba Toads were big fans of the Steef and rowed down the Mongo River, but anything else? Like, what kind of mutualistic relationship did they have with the Grubbs? Did they share a similar fate as the Grubbs when the Mongo River was being invaded?

Question: is this place (I think it is the Ma'Spa) the source of the Mongo River?
And why are Munch and Abe traveling to it (as we can see in other images related to this in the art book)?
http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...=CAMO0155.jpg6

Did you see their armour on display in Sekto's office?

That is one concept, yes, and Ma'Spa is the source of the Mongo (at least the Mongo that was going to be in the Munch/Abe games). From early Munch's Oddysee cuts, or possible Munch's Exoddus.

Thank you for yuor answer. I think it was a Munch's Exoddus concept art, because after having rescued Munch, they had to restock Gabbits on Oddworld.

Yes, and also the point of their journey to Ma'Spa was to release the baiit eggs there, aswell as abe descovering the isolated mudokons and natives in order to gather them together as one, and ignite a rebellion I believe.

I gots yet another question,

What does Abe, Munch and Stranger eat? PLaying though AO again and after watching the intro when Abe talks about Meech's, Scrabs & Paramites it got me wondering, would Abe continue to eat those things?

If he got hungry in Rapture farms he wouldn't have much of a choice, but outisde I don't know, natural materials like fruits and such I guess, I think they hunt some animals too (Hense the spears) but in restriction.
Munch eats fish, such as the Worry fish I presume, whilst stranger would eat whatever he got whilst *Spoilers* was in his non Steef form, and would eat what the grubbs ate afteroods I guess, not sure what Steef's eat, I'd say grass due to their stag like look and behaviour, and all hoofed animals are vegetarian, but he has teeth and cat like qualities, so I'm not sure.

I have another question: what are the Paakos and the Bolamites? I know Paakos and old creatures similar to Scrab oor its ancestor and Bolamites the same for Paramites. But what are these creatures really?

I've never heard of Paakos. But Bolamites are a spider-type creature used by Stranger in SW.

You can find some Paakos informations on Wikipedia.
But can anyone post an image of a Bolamite?

That’s the Italian‐language Wikipedia for anyone who goes on the English‐language version and gets confused. Paakos is apparently just the Italian name of an Oddworld creature with which we’re already familiar. Using Google’s translator, I would guess it’s refering to 1%ers. Abe is now, 1%ers are not some kind of primitive Scrab; they are an early design for Meetles. This is a 1%er:



And Bolomites, which are not confirmed as being closely related to Paramites, look like this:

I have a question: why are Abe and Munch guided by a Mudokon in the Song Engine image (that with a strange building)? And are they going to the Ma'Spa? I can't understand where is that image from? Wich game is it?
Thank you for help.

They aren't guided by the Song Engine. The Song Engine is a piece of ancient Mudokon technology that they happened to walk past.

They are going to Ma'Spa because that's the location where Gabbits traditionally breed and Munch wants to repopulate his species, using the Gabbit eggs retreived from Vykker's Labs.