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misty 11-30-2003 08:40 PM

Well I just got my OW christmas card today.I don't understand, Oddworld did make up thair own creatures but now thay are taking chickens and just changing thair format a little,I myself am very dissipointed in OW for the stuborn changes that thay have made,but thats just my oppinion.Oh and the western enviorment is ok but not exactly what I had hoped for,I was expecting somthing more"odd" than this.
(Misty)

Sekto Springs 11-30-2003 08:48 PM

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Well I just got my OW christmas card today.I don't understand, Oddworld did make up thair own creatures
what do you mean? who else would make them up?

Mac the Janitor 11-30-2003 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
Well alright, I relent, it's not as bad as I made out, but I still think it's poor. Those ears are just... wrong, somehow. Still, it is one monochrome picture with intentional degrading, so I'll continue, as I can assure you I always have been doing, to hope for the best.

And about being open-minded, I am being open minded about the game. I haven't tried to put it down at all, I've been very careful about that. True, I've suggested it may turn out to draw too heavily off Western cliches, but then that's a justified concern isn't it? The appearance of the characters is traditionally very important in Oddworld games, but then saying I don't like their design isn't at all saying I'm not looking forward to the game immensely.

I am aware that I haven't been putting forward much praise about the next game, and I apologise about that - I have been caught up in these small aspects of the game, like you say, but then they are just small aspects of the individual game. I'm also aware I haven't been conveying much excitement, other than disgust, but that in part is due to my own inhibitions. I remember when someone found artwork by Farzad for the Tremors TV series and I got over-excited. In retrospect I felt quite embarassed about it, and have built up a kind of philosophy not to get excited, or it'll hurt me later. Just trust me I am excited, and also that I'm not trying to flame the game.

I hope that you all understand. I just know I'm going to feel embarassed about this post later on.

Here endeth the melodrama, which I also apologise for.

EDIT: I changed my avatar to correspond with how I feel right now.


Aww, I'm sorry Max. Don't worry, I still love you.


By the way, I just noticed your OddBlog uJournal in your sig. Very, very cool...I wish I would've noticed it earlier.

I want to start one up to document my progress on the Oddlympics and the flash webgame...but when I go to create an account, it says I need some account activation code from someone who already has a journal. Could you email me one? It says for you to go here. If you could do this for me, that'd be great. My email address is bighead2005@aol.com . Thanks!

oddguy 12-01-2003 02:21 AM

Wow! A lot has happened since I left to go holiday shopping. Anywhoo, I noticed that our Salamanders and Karate Blobs look very similar. Maybe same species? The lips and eyes are almost exact. It just looks like blobs have a weight problem, or that their fat-ness is some sign of power that makes them different from the Salamanders. Obviously the Slals look scared, while the Blobs just ooze, "Bring it on!"

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Xavier 12-01-2003 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
I also just really noticed the female Hicken for the first time. That certainly blows my queen theory out the window, since Hickens are clearly more closely related to Mudokons than Mudokons are to Glukkons. A shame. What's more of a shame is that she's got breasts. Why would a bird need mammary glands? All will hopefully be explained. Hands up all those looking forward to tomorrow's updates (assuming they're on time).
according to the official site and especially the new DDo I doubt they lay eggs :fuzwink:

Extract:
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Because of massive speculation as to whether the female gender even exists in Mudos, experts have been called in to research the situation more fully. "What do I have to do, lay an egg?" was the defendant's only response

Esus 12-01-2003 01:30 PM

I think that meant they do lay eggs :fuzconf: Maybe I'm wrong.
After reading the Lorne Interniew, it seems I was right about the hickens in the top post of this thread.

quoted from lorne:
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The "Clakkerz" (chicken like characters you mention) are intended to be annoying and funny in the game, and so we wanted to have fun with them in this respect and we felt that worldly chickens where quite annoying and funny and we wanted to play off of that familiarity while placing them into a completely unique context.

Wil 12-01-2003 03:44 PM

I read that as they do lay eggs, too. Also note the Classads:

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Wanted: Rotund Feathery Fella Seeks Rotund Feathery Female For Light Nest-Keeping and Romantic, Dimly Lit Meals. Must Enjoy Bein' Outside and Talkin' Bout Stuff. No Eggs.
Why add no eggs if they don't lay eggs?

But then, why would they have dimly lit meals? I only just noticed this bit this evening. OWI, please let that be a throw-away piss take. It's funny in itself, but seeing romance on Oddworld would be like seeing a time machine or skateboard rink.

Oh wait, we have seen skateboards. Damn.

Sekto Springs 12-01-2003 04:24 PM

romance would be the last thing we need to see on oddworld

Al the Vykker 12-01-2003 10:17 PM

Well I was very happy today that I finally got my Christmas card!:) I really liked how they put the little christmas song/poem in the card this year. I also liked, the fact that Alf personally signed the card.:fuzsmile:

At first I thought it was printed, but I noticed it was signed in actual red pen.

MrBoj 12-02-2003 01:23 AM

The more I see of the new characters, the more I liek their garments. The hats are awesome. A different stlye, yet nostalgic in the decorum of the figures. lovely frowns and smiles all around.

subconscious stream of thought.


Add this card to the collection. Hey Alf, we need more poetry by you, pal!

Alcar 12-02-2003 04:42 AM

I believe the "No Eggs" was simply meant to be read as "No Bull" or "No Bullshit". Because, seeing as the article refers to the Clakkerz, and the Clakkerz are chicken-like, "eggs" would be a perfect substitute for Earth's common cliche: "No Bull".

Alcar...

Mac the Janitor 12-02-2003 12:21 PM

I actually thought the "No Eggs" meant no kids. You know, like he wanted a relationship wit ha female clakkerz, but he doesn't want her to have any kids to bring along, because maybe he hates kids or something. It's quite common here on Earth. But I dunno, I could be wrong. Just a thought.

Xavier 12-02-2003 04:05 PM

I still wait for my card... I suppose I just have to be patiant. :fuzblink:

that "No eggs" thingy is rather strange
at first I tought it was a info bit: Clakkerz lay no eggs
but the "no children" or "no bull" theories are also quite good
I don't know what to think

moodokon man 12-02-2003 05:26 PM

Dunno....
 
Wel IV got mixed fellings. hings In my opinion are looking good so far. Im not going to complain or anything cause im sick of that stuff so Il just go with wat Max Said. Ders good and bad to this pic but Im happy.

By the way Sorry I know this is spam but waht happened to Sydney??? He dissapeared while I was gone.:fuzwink:

Esus 12-02-2003 05:43 PM

Elaborating on the no children idea, the no eggs could literally mean "No eggs", meaning they don't want their potential partner to bring any eggs along, that will eventually hatch, and grow in babie, then adult clakkerz. I think this seems more likely, because otherwise I think it would say, no chicks/children or whatever their called.

Niteowl 12-02-2003 05:57 PM

Is it just me...
 
The salamanders are starting to look like what fuzzles would 'evolve' into..
Could the blobs be mudflubs?

That buck toothed thing looks like something from Huckleberry Hound, Quik Draw McGraw or Deputy Dawg...

Xavier 12-02-2003 06:34 PM

Re: Is it just me...
 
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Originally posted by Niteowl
Could the blobs be mudflubs?
I doubt they are...
Mudflubs are a very low lifeform, and those blobs seems quite mistic and evoluated :fuzwink:

Wil 12-02-2003 06:35 PM

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By the way Sorry I know this is spam but waht happened to Sydney??? He dissapeared while I was gone.
She was removed from adminship, there was a big Forum outrage, and everyone effectively split into three - those that stayed on, those that left to join Sydney at her new forum, The Glass Asylum, and those that frequented both places. I was in the second group, then I joined the third. Now I'm in the first. It's all sorted now, though. You'll see Sydney pop back every now and then, not usually in General Discussion.

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The salamanders are starting to look like what fuzzles would 'evolve' into..
Could the blobs be mudflubs?
What do you mean by that? The original design for the Fuzzles was great, then we ended up with balls of fur, meaning they were incredibly simplified, but I'm pretty sure the design of the salamanders has done the reverse since we last saw them a few months ago, become a bit more realistic and tangeable. Or do you mean they may possibly be used to create an 'aaaahh' factor?

Khanz came up with the idea of the blobs possibly being Mudflubs, but that remains to be seen. The game does involve a river, for sure, which is where Mudflubs live, and they are highly fat, which would suit FlubCo Fuels just fine, so very possibly. If that's true, it would mean there was going to be another sentient race going to appear in Munch's Oddysee, which is a very interesting concept. Or imagine those creatures oozing about it the Reservoir Row level.

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That buck toothed thing looks like something from Huckleberry Hound, Quik Draw McGraw or Deputy Dawg...
While I'm not at all familiar with those characters, I understand what you're getting at. When I saw him on the card, he struck me as being perhaps one of those rather eccentric businessmen or town authorities that just go a bit doo-lally and screw things up for all the good folk. Maybe it is him who is running these box stores, and when the Stranger tries to interfere, he decides to eliminate the threat. Maybe. But I love that term... "Quik Draw." It seems so appropriate.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the eggs theory. I was going to post at school, but Mr Hill closed F1 down before the page could load, damned slow school computers. I'd read the "No eggs" line exactly as Mac did. It's just like a human partner not wanting to try and get together with someone with kids, or who's pregnant. I don't buy Alcar's "No bull" idea, especially since I've never come across that term, although I see exactly where he's coming from. No pranksters, basically. I go with my first thoughts, crossed with it being a clue that Clakkerz reproduce sexually and lay eggs, crossed with OWI rubbing it in that there are female Clakkerz.

Sekto Springs 12-02-2003 08:23 PM

i dont find the Karate Blobs being the kind of species that would simply get captured and squeezed for their fat, they seem much to mystical and....well....powerful to say the least. They would defineately put up a fight. Besides, i see Mudflubs being like slurgs; low, low, dull, and exeptionally boring lifeforms that are pretty brainless and just captured without a fight. I mean, if i were as smart as those Karate Blobs appear, i wouldn't be living in muddy rivers.

Niteowl 12-03-2003 03:22 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Max the Mug
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What do you mean by that? The original design for the Fuzzles was great, then we ended up with balls of fur, meaning they were incredibly simplified, but I'm pretty sure the design of the salamanders has done the reverse since we last saw them a few months ago, become a bit more realistic and tangeable. Or do you mean they may possibly be used to create an 'aaaahh' factor?

Something about their expression....
Did you see the movie Ice Age? The organisms frozen in the ice seemed to have something in common with Sid the sloth-seemed to form a sort of 'evolutionary ladder'.

Khanz came up with the idea of the blobs possibly being Mudflubs, but that remains to be seen. The game does involve a river, for sure, which is where Mudflubs live, and they are highly fat, which would suit FlubCo Fuels just fine, so very possibly. If that's true, it would mean there was going to be another sentient race going to appear in Munch's Oddysee, which is a very interesting concept. Or imagine those creatures oozing about it the Reservoir Row level.



While I'm not at all familiar with those characters, I understand what you're getting at. When I saw him on the card, he struck me as being perhaps one of those rather eccentric businessmen or town authorities that just go a bit doo-lally and screw things up for all the good folk. Maybe it is him who is running these box stores, and when the Stranger tries to interfere, he decides to eliminate the threat. Maybe. But I love that term... "Quik Draw." It seems so appropriate.

The Yogi bear show had those- Maybe unfamiliar to people here- man it makes me feel OLD.
We'll see what they do with it. If things are too cartoony- it'll be like seeing Roger Rabbit in a Star Wars movie...Come to think of it- Jar Jar came pretty close.

Sekto Springs 12-03-2003 09:44 PM

hold everything!

i see more of a resemblance here than with the other guy...

http://www.oddworldforums.net/forums...ine=1070148905

http://www.inhousemedia.net/mf/froggy.jpg

they also look alike, look at the head and jaw shapes...

oddguy 12-04-2003 05:21 AM

A side by side comparison of all three to determine which one.

http://www.inhousemedia.net/mf/guy.jpg

http://www.inhousemedia.net/mf/froggy.jpg

http://www.oddworldforums.net/forums...ine=1070148905

Buck-Toothed man has facial features such as eyes and nose pulled away from the mouth, when orc man has his eyes and nose tightly close to his jaw.......just like our man in Spec 10. Whaddya kids tink?

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Esus 12-04-2003 08:44 AM

I'm going with the buck toothed guy.
-He's standing next to the other hunter
-He has a hunched back
-He doesn't have any ears,

the guy with ears has similar eyes and mouth to the drawing, but his gun is completely different (though that cant be a reason) and he doesn't have a hunched back, and the bucked tooth guy is obviously smaller than the other hunter in botht eh chrimbo card and the painting.

EDIT:
I've just received my card, how I love it so!:fuzgrin: I expected us Brits to have to wait much longer, evidently not:fuzsmile:
Btw, could someone please put links to high quality images of the previous cards, I had last couple of years through the post, but lost them :fuzsad:

Teal 12-04-2003 10:57 AM

Just to reiterate... yeah, with "no eggs" I read it as no kids - like you see in the personals ads you all pore over when you're 13 looking for the funny ones.

And ha, see, I knew there were newts (well, they're nearly newts) On OW. So there. :P

Just because the karate blobs are poncing about waving their arms around doesn't mean they can actually DO karate. They may just be too fat to put their arms anywwhere else. :)

Al the Vykker 12-04-2003 08:53 PM

I personally tend to agree it looks like the buck toothed guy in that picture from Spectrum. but thats only from looking at those two pictures. I guess we need some type of third angle, or picture to compare here of the other creature as well.:fuzsmile:

Oddsville 12-04-2003 09:01 PM

Well the taller guy with the ears resembles the Spec 10 guy in the facial features and Mr. Big hat resembles Spec 10 by the hunch, etc.

One thing I noticed though is that the thing in Spectrum 10 is either squinting his left eye (our right) or he has some type of damaged/glass eye and the talller guy with the ears appears to have the same thing. That or it could just be the angle he's at, hard to tell.

Sekto Springs 12-04-2003 10:09 PM

i will admit, it looks like a cross between both the long hat guy and the orc.

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I'm going with the buck toothed guy.
-He's standing next to the other hunter
-He has a hunched back
-He doesn't have any ears,

the guy with ears has similar eyes and mouth to the drawing, but his gun is completely different (though that cant be a reason) and he doesn't have a hunched back, and the bucked tooth guy is obviously smaller than the other hunter in botht eh chrimbo card and the painting.
yes, but remember the pic in the Spec. 10 was a production picture. There could have been a point after that drawing was made where they decided to make 2 new characters with the same similarities. I'm still rooting for the Orc-guy's side though, i have the book and after looking at the jaw and head (exclude the ears) aswell as his pants (which also resemble the Orc's) i say it's defineately an old version of him, but i could be wrong because in the book he's green and in the actual footage he's more yellow. But then again the bigger hunter is a different colour from the footage aswell.
I DUNNO!

Fez 12-05-2003 05:05 PM

i got mine today, so up it goes with the rest of my cards.

Mojo 12-05-2003 05:27 PM

I too think the bucktooth is the strange beast...

BTW, how do you get the cards? Where do you have to register?

Arcoiris 12-05-2003 05:30 PM

I got mine yesterday...
Is that what they were? I tend to fall back on track with these things.

Xavier 12-05-2003 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaScrab
I too think the bucktooth is the strange beast...

BTW, how do you get the cards? Where do you have to register?

you have to register here:
http://www.oddworld.com/contact.html

Wil 12-05-2003 06:47 PM

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I expected us Brits to have to wait much longer, evidently not
I'm still waiting. ;)

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Just because the karate blobs are poncing about waving their arms around doesn't mean they can actually DO karate.
I'd like to know who called them Karate Blobs in the first place when they're blatently doing something more like Tai Chi.

paramiteabe 12-05-2003 06:54 PM

The buck tooth guy and the character in the art piece titled as "The Hunt" are the same. The artist never added the two fangs on the sides of the mouth as in the card picture. Because in art when you are depicting a scene with a character in the distance the detail is not as apparent as what it would be up close. Its the same character from a distance. The artist simply made it less with detail to give the illusion of depth in the piece. So its the same guy.

Esus 12-05-2003 07:12 PM

On the card, they are CG. In Spectrum, it is a painting, or some other type of art, though I'm with you, Paramiteabe, I think the buck toothed guy is the other hunter, though I suppose it is possible to have 3 hunters. :fuzblink:

Sekto Springs 12-05-2003 07:19 PM

it is not a painting, the medium was digital

Xavier 12-05-2003 07:20 PM

or maybe all the new characters aren't on the holliday card...
and the green spectrum guy isn't on the card and is someone else :fuzwink:

keep your mind open :D

Esus 12-05-2003 07:24 PM

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it is not a painting, the medium was digital
I stand corrected :) , though I was only guessing ;)

Al the Vykker 12-05-2003 08:14 PM

Yeah it is digital. Im pretty sure all the stuff in Spectrum or atleast most of it is for computer generated stuff. Honest mistake though.:fuzsmile:

Sekto Springs 12-05-2003 08:29 PM

yes there are lots of digitals, but not more than the actual paintings. i'd say the number of digital art and the painted art tie up at about the same.

DarkHoodness 12-05-2003 08:42 PM

Yay, I got my card this morning! :D It's. . . Interesting. Thanks to OWI. :)

Maybe I would be looking foward to the new Steef game if I had an Xbox.
Or if they released a PC version. *hint hint, OWI. . .*
- DH