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Abe16 08-21-2003 12:26 AM

Yeah I like the red muse I vote the re muse too be a Mod!

Alcar 08-21-2003 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Death
Trust me, the novelty wears off. After a while you start wishing you were back as an ordinary user. You'll start to miss being able to go off on holiday without HAVING to tell someone.

It feels like you are getting more power and freedom, but in fact it's just more work and another chore.

Death, this will probably be the first and last time I'll ever agree with you on anything. It's now very often that I ponder what it'd be like to become a normal member again. It's not because people are calling me power-hungry (etc), it's that it does get very boring.

Being a Moderator is highly over-rated.

I'd also like to make it clear that Xavier is above a life-saver. He's fantastic, seriously, he is the single hand of power in General Discussion. Ta, Xavier :D

I hardly post on the forums anymore. But I promise to give it a shot soon.

Alcar...

Fez 08-21-2003 08:07 AM

not like any of you will listen, but i got a good plan for the furture mods...

GD
xav,
Max,
PA

OIPT
Kai,
Mac,
Death

spoiler
PA,
Kahnz

[U]oddworld help [/B]
Kahnz,
alphascrab

FS&H
Alcar,
Abe babe

off-topic
Majic,
DI,
Searex

welcomes and b-days
Fax,
Majic,
Mac

Fancorner
Jacob,
Max

NOA&L
me,
Jacob,
Searex

RPG
red muse,
hobo,
dripik


tell me if i missed any.

Xavier 08-21-2003 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Alcar
I'd also like to make it clear that Xavier is above a life-saver. He's fantastic, seriously, he is the single hand of power in General Discussion. Ta, Xavier :D
hmmmm, wasn't that a bit much :fuzconf:
anyway thank you Alcar

Alcar 08-21-2003 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by ferill
GD
xav,
Max,
PA

OIPT
Kai,
Mac,
Death

spoiler
PA,
Kahnz

[U]oddworld help
Kahnz,
alphascrab

FS&H
Alcar,
Abe babe

off-topic
Majic,
DI,
Searex

welcomes and b-days
Fax,
Majic,
Mac

Fancorner
Jacob,
Max

NOA&L
me,
Jacob,
Searex

RPG
red muse,
hobo,
dripik
There are way too many listed. An ideal number (my opinion) of Moderators would be along the lines of the following:

General Oddworld Discussion
2 Moderators

Spoiler Forum
1 Moderator

Oddworld Help
1 Moderator

Off-Topic Discussion
2 Moderators

Fan Corner
2 Moderators

Non Oddworld Art & Literature
1 Moderator

Oddworld RPG
1 Moderator

Any forum that wasn't mentioned are forums they don't offer Moderator-Ship for normal members. Other forums like the branches of OIPT are decided by the OIPT, not the OWF.

Even that diagram above isn't an ideal number, it's a lenient number on my behalf. I really disagree that more should be added, I think that there should be less. As it was with the S'laskia / Danny / Anna era. Too many make it cluttered.

If you want my opinion, I think it is best to not have the new elections at all. I also think that a timed period of Moderator-Ship is a bad idea, we have great Moderators here, and no need to elect any new ones. That's my opinion, anyway.

Alcar...

paramiteabe 08-21-2003 10:25 AM

I don't think it will happen for awhile though if it does happen. Its never been confirmed that new Mods will be appointed. I just brought it up to see if there was a possability of that from happening. I am not trying to get it confirm that it will happen.

All I know is that we should do this every now and then based upon how well previous Mods did. I am not saying get rid of all Mods I am saying appoint a few new ones to replace ones that don't live up to their responsabilties. The one thing we don't want are Mods whome don't do their jobs. And a lot of Mods now do their jobs pretty good. I am talking about replaceing inactive Mods. And they may have an excuse that they couldn't do their job because of certain circumstances. Well I say too bad you did not live up to your responsiabilty someone else will take your place. It may sound mean but a little bit of strictness can be a good thing. I say you have to be tough in order to get things done and if its replaceing other mods then so be it.

Paramiteabe...:fuzblink:

Big_Bro_Slig222 08-21-2003 10:40 AM

I'd like to be a MOD for Off-Topic or RPG, or maybe forums help and feedback. Something like that. I'm multi-dimensional.

Sekto Springs 08-21-2003 11:40 AM

*places ballad in Max's box*
i want you for GD max:D

Wil 08-21-2003 11:43 AM

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Being a Moderator is highly over-rated.
Jeez, you're all talking like it's the end of the road. Truth be told, I couldn't give a diahoea attack if I never become a mod at the Forums; like Xavier, I just think I'd be able to benefit the Forums and the members to whatever small degree it would allow me. Besides, I would have been voted GD mod if I were at the Forums when the last elections were held. :p

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I think that there should be less. As it was with the S'laskia / Danny / Anna era. Too many make it cluttered.
There were less members back then, and we'd all been on a lot less time. Trouble is now a lot of members are highly respected and it seems only fair they should be recognised with some higher status. But that's just me, I'm probably being too rewarding as usual.

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Fancorner
Jacob,
Max
That's nice, but I never go in Fan Corner. :p

Codek 08-21-2003 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by ferill
OIPT
Kai,
Mac,
Death

Thanks ferill, I appreciate that! But me and Mac aren't OIPT, we're Oddlympics.

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Originally posted by Alcar

Death, this will probably be the first and last time I'll ever agree with you on anything. It's now very often that I ponder what it'd be like to become a normal member again. It's not because people are calling me power-hungry (etc), it's that it does get very boring.

Being a Moderator is highly over-rated.

I'd also like to make it clear that Xavier is above a life-saver. He's fantastic, seriously, he is the single hand of power in General Discussion. Ta, Xavier

I hardly post on the forums anymore. But I promise to give it a shot soon.

Alcar...

I've been a mod in a different forum for a while now, and I have found that it's hardly anything to write home about. It's fun for the first few weeks, but after that it gets boring.

Which is incidentally why I am so exited about Moderating the Oddlympics. The Oddlympics are going to be genuinely fun to work with. Much better than sorting out fights and closing spam topics.

And I said to you while in Oddchat, that Xavier is one of the best mods you have. :p

But yeah, vote Death for Oddlympics!

Mac the Janitor 08-21-2003 12:37 PM

Oo, I've gotta get one of those for my sig...

Sekto Springs 08-21-2003 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
That's nice, but I never go in Fan Corner. :p
you were being sarcastic, right?

Oddfan 08-21-2003 01:11 PM

It's going to be a long time before I'm a Mod.
I'm just a little Gabbiwog. :crying:

GrigtheSlig 08-21-2003 01:32 PM

I think that Max would be a great GD. If we ever get to vote, i'll vote for you!

Codek 08-21-2003 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
Oo, I've gotta get one of those for my sig...
Remind me to mail you the script.

TheKhanzumer 08-21-2003 03:54 PM

KHANZ FOR ADMIN!
 
Read my signature to find out what I think. :D

Actually I don't think we really need to have election. If we do have elections they should only be for a few postitions where it is obviously needed. Places where the current Mods need help or no longer visit these forums on a regular enough basis.

We need to have two regular mods for each major forum so that when someone is gone, there is still someone to take care of deleting, moving, changing, etc...

Wil 08-21-2003 04:28 PM

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Thanks ferill, I appreciate that! But me and Mac aren't OIPT, we're Oddlympics.
I appreciate the different between the two groups, but it is the same Forum. Unless you were just pointing out the first bit.

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you were being sarcastic, right?
No, not at all. I wish I could visit more often, but my lifestyle is a piece of shit right now. I need to pull myself together.

As for the elections, I thought Alcar already had people in mind, and was going to do some promoting as Oddworld 4's release date loomed.

Al the Vykker 08-21-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by ferill
not like any of you will listen, but i got a good plan for the furture mods...

GD
xav,
Max,
PA

OIPT
Kai,
Mac,
Death

spoiler
PA,
Kahnz

[U]oddworld help

Kahnz,
alphascrab

FS&H
Alcar,
Abe babe

off-topic
Majic,
DI,
Searex

welcomes and b-days
Fax,
Majic,
Mac

Fancorner
Jacob,
Max

NOA&L
me,
Jacob,
Searex

RPG
red muse,
hobo,
dripik


tell me if i missed any. [/B]
And I suppose I would have to just step aside from my duties if that were the case? You forgot to keep me on for fan corner. I feel Ive been doing a great job so far.:)

Anyways before I go off on something like that, I agree on several different things, new mods should not have to kick out those of us here who have been doing our jobs well right now.

I also agree for no relections except in certain instances, or really seasoned member being "promoted" and ideas that have been mentioned. Such as: a mod is not living up to his/her duties, Or in total power abuses, or other extreme circumstances.

For extended absense (this is just an idea Im not for it completely and Im not against it either, just an idea to toss around)

Long extended absenses, not like a day or two, etc. But for several weeks, months, etc. You cant really take down a mod because of maybe a conflict or vacation, because not everyone lives here, or can be here everyday.

Other time related issues could be if it was something like a personal problem at home that needed a bit of time to be sorted, or a death in the family or of a parent, other things that the particular staff member whoever it may be would discuss with the admins. I guess you could place a temporary mod in that persons place for the absense of the other person.

These are just ideas Im throwing out for discussion.

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We need to have two regular mods for each major forum so that when someone is gone, there is still someone to take care of deleting, moving, changing, etc...
I need a new second mod in Fan Corner! Its hard doing everything yourself and it leaves no time to create new ideas for that area. Or even update your own stories, etc. But thats AB and Alcar's decision.

Codek 08-21-2003 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
I appreciate the different between the two groups, but it is the same Forum.
Just because we share a forum, does not mean that we are anything to do with one-another.

In fact, we have been asking for a seperate sub-forum.

Mac the Janitor 08-21-2003 09:38 PM

Death's right. We do not work with or really even talk to the OIPT team. Even when I first started the Oddlympics, it was only me working on it...no other OIPT team people. Now it's me and Death.

We'd just like to stop being associated with the OIPT. We do not work with them, and most likely we never will. The OIPT polls and Oddlympics are very different "activities", and the only reason the Oddlympics was branded with the OIPT name is because I proposed the idea to Kaimana when I was part of the OIPT Team.

This may sound picky and rude, but please, stop associating us with the OIPT.

Phew. Done.

Codek 08-21-2003 09:48 PM

Exactly what Mac said.

We have nothing to do with it.

Wil 08-22-2003 06:17 AM

Er, I already said I appreciated the difference, you really didn't need to say all that. I was just pointing out that the two entities currently share the same Forum.

About the separate sub-forum, I guess it can't really matter while the OIPT is offline that you share the same place. Is the Oddlympics expected to extend to beyond Oddworld 4's release date?

Codek 08-22-2003 11:35 AM

Yes. We're planning on keeping the Oddlympics going for a long while yet.

And yes, we did have to say all that, because there are alot of people getting confused. But not you specifically, so don't feel like you're getting told off or anything. :)

And err, Max for GD. I know we don't really get along, but you're a good member here. I don't think I need to like you to know you do a good job. Keep it up. :)

Mac the Janitor 08-22-2003 12:16 PM

Yeah, that wasn't pointed at you in any way, Max. It's just that many, many other members have constantly been associating us with the OIPT, and frankly, it was pissing us off. I just had to say that somewhere.

TheKhanzumer 08-22-2003 02:36 PM

Thank you for clearing that up Mac and Death. It is your guyses deal so if you want to seperate completely from the OIPT that is okay with me and probably Kai too. But we don't need seperate forums for the OIPT and Oddylimpics, mainly because right now neither is really doing anything for a while. Actually I'll be posting a stand alone Oddworld Interactive Poll soon... but other than that there hasn't and won't be much until OW4 comes out.

Anyways, good luck. I can't wait to see what you guys are planning. Your making such a big deal about it, that it better be cool. :D

slogster 08-22-2003 02:50 PM

if we have a sub non oddworld related rpg as a sub form for the role play game form i say hobo should be voted as mod for it since he likes makeing non related oddworld rpgs
so if a sub rpg form is made in the nearby future i vote hobo to run it all

Mojo 08-22-2003 03:04 PM

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oddworld help [/B]
Kahnz,
alphascrab

Why thank you! Maybe I will, someday, be a mod of OWH...

Cloverfield 08-22-2003 03:26 PM

I almost thought there were elections without me knowing when I saw all of these sigs and things. LOL

I haven't had a chance to talk things over w/ Alcar yet ... but one possibility I see in the future is that another GD mod is appointed. Currently myself and Alcar are listed as mods there, and we actually don't really post much there. So a more active GD member would be good to help Xav out (yes, I'm sure your position is safe there Xavier!). Possibly someone like Max, Paramiteabe or Oddsville. Also the Help forum for the same reason, and the Spoiler forum when it opens back up again. I also think that Red Muse would make a great RPG mod.

As for being a mod ... it can be good and bad. OWF is good cause it's only small ... so I usually just come on here every day and check posts even if I don't post. But I'm also Smod at a large forum (formerly Final Fantasy Extreme, now Gaming Extreme), and although I enjoy being a Smod and wouldn't give it up ... sometimes it can be a lot of work, as it's a large forum, so there are a lot of posts to look through, etc. So you do need to be someone that wants to do work. It's okay to say that you want to help people, etc ... but with power comes responsibility, and with responsibility comes work. Not everyone wants to work ... some people are better suited as normal members, as they like to have fun and things are more relaxed.

And actually I didn't even realize that OIPT and Oddlympics were separate. Maybe I'll have to change the forum name so that it makes it sound like they are separate. Any suggestions? Or maybe move them back to the main page, with a main forum (no posting allowed) called "Oddworld Interactive" (or something along those lines) ... and have two sub-forums there ... one for OIPT and one for Oddlympics. The only reason the OIPT forum was taken off the main page was because it was inactive and it looked bad having an open inactive forum on the main page. But w/ Oddlympics doing something I wouldn't have a problem with some kind of setup like that on the main page.

Abe Babe...

Mac the Janitor 08-22-2003 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by TheKhanzumer
Thank you for clearing that up Mac and Death. It is your guyses deal so if you want to seperate completely from the OIPT that is okay with me and probably Kai too. But we don't need seperate forums for the OIPT and Oddylimpics, mainly because right now neither is really doing anything for a while.


Yeah, don't take it personally or anything. All of you are really great, we'd just like to be our own thing.

Also, glad to see you've decided to start up the OIPT again.



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Originally posted by Abe Babe
And actually I didn't even realize that OIPT and Oddlympics were separate. Maybe I'll have to change the forum name so that it makes it sound like they are separate. Any suggestions? Or maybe move them back to the main page, with a main forum (no posting allowed) called "Oddworld Interactive" (or something along those lines) ... and have two sub-forums there ... one for OIPT and one for Oddlympics. The only reason the OIPT forum was taken off the main page was because it was inactive and it looked bad having an open inactive forum on the main page. But w/ Oddlympics doing something I wouldn't have a problem with some kind of setup like that on the main page.


Separate subforums would be great, Abe Babe. We plan to start the Oddlympics 2.0 in about a week and a half, though, so no rush.

Big_Bro_Slig222 08-24-2003 07:03 PM

I think I'll run for Fan Corner.

A vote for me, is a vote for...some catchy little phrase...how should I know? Politicians dont make decisions for themselves...