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Kaimana 06-24-2003 02:07 AM

Hehe...funny :D Ah yes, the valant return of the Fourth Concept. Giving us yet another reponse, to laugh at. Maybe I should take you a little more seriously...yet, theres just something about you that makes me want to laugh. I'm sorry, really I am, I just find it:fuzblink: ...funny:lol: Oh man...lol. Ah well, nice to see you came back for another round, I guess...:fuzemb:

Joshy 06-24-2003 02:28 AM

IPs do not need to be the same for you to be Reece. You could simply log on to a different computer and post.

You act, a helluva lot like Reece. We don't jump on new members, either. We just don't take kindly to new members who want to come in and act like they are "da bomb"!

Members here are respected because they earn the right to be respected. They've become a contriuting member, and we reward them.

Just because you're new doesn't mean you an get away with the "but I'm new, please I didn't know I was being arrogant!" cry.

Alcar... (on happyguy936's account)

SeaRex 06-24-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Re: Evil!
 
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Originally posted by Fourth Concept
Wow, that was really weak!
Yeah, but it was funny, no? Whoops, but you left... yet you posted again... surprise, surprise. Don't worry, that always happens. People always have to get the last word in so they look important.*

The only thing about this guy that really strikes a nerve with me is that he thinks that he's figured everybody out. You know what they say about assumptions... they turn you into a nazi.

In two days he has managed to figure out all of our faults... and the essential problems with the forums as well! What an amazing guy! Not only that... garsh darn, he somehow let us turn this thread into a problem for us. My, the endless fighting amongst the members will certainly destroy us all. After all, we don't have anything better to do... right? Right. That only makes sense. And I thought this was a happy town...

We don't want or need arrogant people like this fuck to tell us how to run the forum (and I don't care if he didn't mean to do that... because he did it anyway). Of course, he couldn't care less what we have to say... so he certainly wouldn't reply anymore. Certainly not...

*Once again, SeaRex is not at all liable for being a hypocrite. Good day.

Fourth Concept 06-24-2003 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimana
Hehe...funny :D Ah yes, the valant return of the Fourth Concept. Giving us yet another reponse, to laugh at. Maybe I should take you a little more seriously...yet, theres just something about you that makes me want to laugh. I'm sorry, really I am, I just find it:fuzblink: ...funny:lol: Oh man...lol. Ah well, nice to see you came back for another round, I guess...:fuzemb:
Just as well really Kai, I wasn't being serious at all.

I haven't actually done anything, except try to start a discussion on a very valid point. It was everyone else as I recall who spoilt it. Nobody answered to what I said, they just said stuff like "hi" and "welcome to the forums" and "your just like Reese, are you Reese?". So I was forced to reply to this pap, and therefore the whole topic went off topic (no pun intended). But then Mr. IQ-of-a-petrol-station-forecourt moderator came along and decided to aggrivate the situation. That isn't my problem, its his, and he took the blame for it.

I am not acting like I am "da bomb" as you put it, I am making my opinions known - and as far as I could see, I was doing it light heartedly. I don't see why I should be seen as Ali-G for expressing an opinion in an argument to support my freedom of speech... (which by the way, is pretty stunted while I am here)

You say I act "a helluva lot like Reese". I now officially want to kill that jerk. If Reese hadn't come to the forums in the first place, none of this would have happened. But I do wish to ask you, in what way was, or am I like Reese?

I take it from what you have said, that I have a different IP to Reese. The fact however, that you beleive that I am Reese using a different computer just leads me to beleive that you WANT to think that I am Reese. Which is sad really, because it means you actually let that little moron get to you.

I have never ever experienced any kind of problems like this on any other forum, and to prove it, here is another forum that I post on: http://pub36.ezboard.com/fomniverse21281frm3
I post as Fourth Concept there too.

I thought this place seemed pretty funky, and offbeat. Thats why I came here. But before I did, a freind warned me to watch out for myself because you don't like people speaking their mind. So thats why I made this thread, to clear up any doubts of this place before I went on into other discussions. I was hoping to be proved wrong about my negative opinions theory, but unfortunately I wasn't.

Don't throw your rocks too hard... :)

4ourth.

Fourth Concept 06-24-2003 01:34 PM

Re: Re: Re: Evil!
 
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Originally posted by SeaRex
Yeah, but it was funny, no? Whoops, but you left... yet you posted again... surprise, surprise. Don't worry, that always happens. People always have to get the last word in so they look important.*
Yes, they have to get the last word in; "they", just like your trying to do, and I will hold you liable for being a hypocrit. I actually said that I have come back to ask whether my IP is the same, so sit down and be quite kiddy. The reason I am doing this is because, well there isn't any reason really, its just to clear my name.

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The only thing about this guy that really strikes a nerve with me is that he thinks that he's figured everybody out. You know what they say about assumptions... they turn you into a nazi.
Of course, you wouldn't care to know then that I am actually Jewish? Stop calling me a Nazi asshole, its not funny or clever or quick. Now as for figuring everyone out, well quote me where I say that I have figured everybody out rather than just saying I have.

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In two days he has managed to figure out all of our faults... and the essential problems with the forums as well! What an amazing guy! Not only that... garsh darn, he somehow let us turn this thread into a problem for us. My, the endless fighting amongst the members will certainly destroy us all. After all, we don't have anything better to do... right? Right. That only makes sense. And I thought this was a happy town...
I don't know if I made this point clear enough: I have spoken to people who have posted here before over the phone. Also, I browsed most the forum before I said anything. ALSO it doesn't take Einstien to figure this sort of stuff out. Now, I didn't turn anything into a problem, YOU made it a problem by having a problem. I tried to make a valid contribution, you just wanted to talk about how you thought I was Reese. If you don't want something to happen, don't make all the actions that lead up to that consequence.

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We don't want or need arrogant people like this fuck *Arrogant? Now your just calling me names kiddy!* to tell us how to run the forum (and I don't care if he didn't mean to do that... because he did it anyway). Of course, he couldn't care less what we have to say... so he certainly wouldn't reply anymore. Certainly not...
I will now stress the point, that I told you before that I wasn't TELLING you how to run the forum, I was making a suggestion, in the hope that any doubts I had about this place would be cleared up. Your not reading my posts properly, so I will therefore no longer listen to you.

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*Once again, SeaRex is not at all liable for being a hypocrite. Good day.
Yes, yes you are liable.

4ourth.

P.S. Sorry about the double post, but I had to say this...

SeaRex 06-24-2003 01:52 PM

You replied again... great. You act like you don't care, yet you continue to try to get the last word in... and to "clear your name" to boot. I don't have to worry about getting in the last word before I leave, because I haven't decided to leave the forums. If you're leaving, than leave. We know you're not Reese... but it strikes a nerve so people continued to call you as such.

You took my post way too seriously. I was joking in over half of it, for Christ's sake. You may not be a nazi, but it certainly seems to piss you off when I call you that... I may be a kiddy, but at least I'm not Reese the nazi. And, if you only came back to see if your IP was the same, then why bother preaching? Leave already.

And for the record, I never thought you were Reese; nor did I ever seriously say that you were.

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well quote me where I say that I have figured everybody out rather than just saying I have.
OK...
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Once all this has acheived you should have just about found your inner selves to be pointless, meaningless individuals who have nothing better to do. This should help you all go nowhere
And I don't care what great, underlying meaning this has. Don't bother trying to explain, it came across as an arrogant, patronising rant.

Rwar! Nobody patronises me! Well, except Dave...

Fourth Concept 06-24-2003 02:05 PM

Stop whinging. I haven't laughed this hard in years. I would just like to take this opertunity to laugh my head off at you for making a pathetic attempt to make out that you never actually even thought I was Reese in the first place! Bollocks mate! Don't you say I come out with crap excuses, then come out with one that makes the record books for crapness.

I will moan and complain and bitch as much as I want because YOU have given me reason to. If you don't want something to happen, as I said before, don't perform all the actions that lead up to that consequence, otherwise people will just assume that you wanted it to happen, which I do.

I would only be patronising you if you actually already knew what I was telling you, and if I was telling it to you in a way that sounds as though you don't know it. Don't give yourself the credit that you actually knew or understood what I was saying, because if you did you wouldn't have reacted in such a way.

Now, I have made everything as clear as it needs to be, if you don't want me to come back here, you don't need to tell me, because it will have no effect. By the way, making comments about someone behind their back, after they have left for good, after an argument, is known behaviour in the world of psychology. It is said to express primitive behaviour, where a socially damaged group re-establishes its meaning and gets itself back together again, by making the whole situation seem to be in their control.*

4ourth.

*Disclaimer: 4ourth was mostly having fun in this post.

SeaRex 06-24-2003 02:12 PM

God, he posted again? Even after he said he wasn't listening to me? What a fuckwad (Heh... kiddy name calling). Nice psychology, by the way. It doesn't really work when everyone knew you would be back, does it? Good thing you put that disclaimer there...
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Originally posted by Fourth Concept
for making a pathetic attempt to make out that you never actually even thought I was Reese in the first place! Bollocks mate! Don't you say I come out with crap excuses, then come out with one that makes the record books for crapness.
No it's your turn to do some quoting. Please point out where I seriously thought you were Reese.

Fourth Concept 06-24-2003 02:31 PM

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In two days he has managed to figure out all of our faults... and the essential problems with the forums as well! What an amazing guy! Not only that... garsh darn, he somehow let us turn this thread into a problem for us. My, the endless fighting amongst the members will certainly destroy us all. After all, we don't have anything better to do... right? Right. That only makes sense. And I thought this was a happy town...
looks an awful lot, to me, like your trying to say that I have been here and argued with you all before.

When I said you the words "You were saying I was Reese" I kind of meant all of you, to show you why I am still here. But if you weren't saying to me that I was Reese, why did you say "When I was saying you were Reese I was being sarcastic."? That seems fishy to me.

You may not have done, if you weren't thats fine, I accept that. I can't really be bothered to scan the whole thread just to make you look bad, thats not what I am all about.

I AM leaving now, I just didn't want people talking crap about me behind my back, so I will ask you if you would make the same effort.

4ourth.

Facsimile 06-24-2003 06:12 PM

Argh. Too many points to make in the one minute before I leave for school.
*Cry*

SeaRex 06-24-2003 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Fourth Concept
looks an awful lot, to me, like your trying to say that I have been here and argued with you all before.
That wasn't really my intention... most, if not all, of that post was intended to be a semi-tactless joke.
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When I said you the words "You were saying I was Reese" I kind of meant all of you, to show you why I am still here. But if you weren't saying to me that I was Reese, why did you say "When I was saying you were Reese I was being sarcastic."? That seems fishy to me.

You may not have done, if you weren't thats fine, I accept that. I can't really be bothered to scan the whole thread just to make you look bad, thats not what I am all about.

I AM leaving now, I just didn't want people talking crap about me behind my back, so I will ask you if you would make the same effort.

Well, I suppose that's fair enough... I guess I'm done.

Fourth Concept 06-24-2003 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by SeaRex
That wasn't really my intention... most, if not all, of that post was intended to be a semi-tactless joke.

Well, I suppose that's fair enough... I guess I'm done.

Now that this is all settled, I have decided to stay around. I have started another topic, hopefully this one will be better.

4ourth

Mac the Janitor 06-24-2003 08:03 PM

I love you, SeaRex. Take me.



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Originally posted by Fourth Concept:
Stop whinging.
Yeah, you guys, stop whinging, dammit!

SeaRex 06-24-2003 08:20 PM

Gonna lay you down by the fire make some sweet lovin' to you, Mac.

Everybody wants me babies! But they be my babies! My babies, I say!

Facsimile 06-25-2003 07:51 AM

Curses! I am too late! The forumers have made up. No. Not good. So many wasted points. No, bad Facsimile. Good forumers.
Yessssss.

Fourth Concept 06-25-2003 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Facsimile
Curses! I am too late! The forumers have made up. No. Not good. So many wasted points. No, bad Facsimile. Good forumers.
Yessssss.

I have a habit of working my way out of these things. Hehe, you guys thought I was Reese! Hehehe! :D

Yeah this thread has moved on now. Everyone's dead. Uhh, I mean happy! Yeeeees! Happy! Thats it!

Hehe.

4ourth.

Disgruntled Intern 06-25-2003 10:12 PM

See how much easier this all would have been if concept never bitched at me until I re-opened the topic?

Good golly, molly!

Fourth Concept 06-25-2003 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
See how much easier this all would have been if concept never bitched at me until I re-opened the topic?

Good golly, molly!

Oh god, he's back for another one! Look mate, this arguments finished, stop trying to re-start it. I will once again say, that I do firmly beleive that you people here want to get into an argument, because you don't get enough satisfaction out of your life. Don't get thinking that your going to get any satisfaction out of arguing with me.

What makes you think that anyone else cares that I bitched at you?* They probably think your a bit sad for acting like I was out of place to moan at you for doing something your not supposed to.

I got in contact with Kristen AKA "Abe Babe" to ask her about your little "episode", and she said that you have a track history of doing strange things like this. But don't think I am complaining, because I can handle people like you.

Now, "all of this happened" before you came along and closed the thread, you merely aggrevated it. So sit down and hush your noise, nobodies reading this sort of aggro stuff anymore.

*Retorical Question.

4ourth.

Mac the Janitor 06-25-2003 11:05 PM

Go away.

Fourth Concept 06-25-2003 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
Go away.
Who is that addressed to? Because if its to me, can I ask what I have said or done to offend you?

4ourth.

Mac the Janitor 06-25-2003 11:17 PM

You annoy me.

Big_Bro_Slig222 06-25-2003 11:33 PM

We haven't been doin' to well on new members have we lately?

Disgruntled Intern 06-26-2003 02:23 AM

Oh me oh my, Mr.Concept certainly does have me in a metaphorical head lock, doesn't he?


Just as you claimed no one would care about you constantly bitching at me, I'm sure no one cares about abe babe claiming I have a "track history of doing strange things".

Don't contradict yourself. It makes you look oh so silly.

Facsimile 06-26-2003 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by Big_Bro_Slig222
We haven't been doin' to well on new members have we lately?
Indeed. They either start arguments or have terrible spelling and punctuation.
Whatever did happen to lindsay?

Jacob 06-26-2003 06:00 PM

I don't think Kristen is in any position to state about peoples "strange goings-on" due to her track record with Justin...

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because I can handle people like you.
I am soooo moist right now, how about you show me abit of handling, eh? Eh?

Fourth Concept 06-27-2003 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I don't think Kristen is in any position to state about peoples "strange goings-on" due to her track record with Justin...

Well, she did. Now that I know that DI has a habit of doing that sort of stuff, I can accept that he did not mean anything by it, and am therefore no longer at odds with him.

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
Don't contradict yourself. It makes you look oh so silly.

I am not contradicting myself. I stated what Kristen said because I felt it was important. I said that I didn't feel that people cared about the fact that I bitched at you, because I did not feel that was important. It may seem contradictory, but it actually isn't when you think about it - my reason for contacting Kristen was to resolve this, not to try and prove some silly point that I am great and your an asshole (which is of course, NOT true, your the one who is running things around here.). (I do think about these things before I post you know.)

I don't beleive in arguments, I think open minded discussion, where all the comments are mutually beneficial to all the parties are much better. Not to sound hippyish (probably too late there), but we really shouldn't be treating each other like we are here only to be on bad terms with all the other forumers - or in competition with them.

Now let us not waste our articulate and observant talent in an argument, that just contradicts our own intelligence - we should be using all this energy to make this a better place.

4ourth.

Facsimile 06-27-2003 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Fourth Concept
Now let us not waste our articulate and observant talent in an argument, that just contradicts our own intelligence - we should be using all this energy to make this a better place.
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Here is my opinion: Your forum is a happytown; its general purpose seeks to enforce positive opinion, or only allow the expression of it. Negative opinions are shunned here.
See I'm not as all sure what you were talking about here but, wasn't it along the lines of letting us talk badly about things?

Disgruntled Intern 06-27-2003 03:49 AM

You dislike arugements, and prefer open minded discussion...yet you barrage me with PM's in which you call me vulgar names.

Most contradictory, Mr.Concept.

Fourth Concept 06-27-2003 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Facsimile
See I'm not as all sure what you were talking about here but, wasn't it along the lines of letting us talk badly about things?
No, I mean't negative opinions, not arguing. If you don't like me, at least tell me why and I will endevour to put a stop to it (Unless of course it is something stupid like "Your being gay" or whatever). I can see why negative opinions are pretty much banned here, because all of the people that are most likely to use them, use them at other peoples expense. Perhaps if you made any attempt to do something constructive in this thread, rather than accuse, and disrespect, perhaps I would allow you that credit from my part.

[quote]Originally posted by Disgruntled InternYou dislike arugements, and prefer open minded discussion...yet you barrage me with PM's in which you call me vulgar names.

Most contradictory, Mr.Concept.


Firstly, I will point out that the difference between a PM and a forum discussion is most different. And "vulgar"? What are you, 80 years old? Now I made an attempt to make it up to you, and clear the whole thing up, yet you go ahead and make things worse again, when you had the chance to accept our differences with some dignity - I am sorry, but you can't possibly expect me to show you any kind of respect when you do something like that can you?

Your right, I do prefer a good, constructive and open minded discussion, but it doesn't mean I can't resort to anger when I am provoked - Which is what you did and what I did aswell.

I do not see why I should dignify any of your unwanted and disrespectful questions with such a well thought out response, but to be honest, your ignorance really does strike a nerve. I can't begin to understand how much it will take for you to understand that no argument will lead to the glory most people make out it will. Arguments occur in the presence of ignorance, surely that is not the image any of us want to portray here?

Lets just drop it.

4ourth.

Disgruntled Intern 06-28-2003 01:03 AM

Don't you understand? I'm playing the ignorance card with you because I'm stuck at work. I have no one else to talk to, and my laptop is my only source of amusement.

I know you weren't contradicting yourself. I was just providing myself with some immature entertainment.

That's all.

I'm really not as ignorant as I've made myself out to be. But's it sure is fun to be misleading.

Majic 06-28-2003 01:35 AM

Whoop de doo, I just spent a weak with my only technology correspondence beings fans and lights. And what do I spy? A new member, many long posts, and bitching. SInce I'm a lazy bum (a tired one at that) I'll just leave it simple:

Hi Fourth Concept (if your still here, I haven't read all the later posts)

Alcar 06-29-2003 05:27 AM

Actually Fourth Concept, PMs here are treated the same as threads/posts. Anything we wouldn't allow on threads/posts aren't allowed through PMs.

Alcar...

Native Poser 06-29-2003 07:13 AM

...... :confused: .....this is why I dont come around here as often anymore...

Facsimile 06-29-2003 08:11 AM

Not meaning anyone to think I am talking about anyone here, but wouldn't it be damn cool to be able to put customisable people in GTA3? Then I could mow down all my friends and foes alike!

Cloverfield 07-01-2003 03:36 AM

Hmmm, I can't recall calling DI strange. I did say he was a good moderator, but he does close topics sometimes without letting people know the reason. Although I've seen other mods do that at other forums too, so it's not quite strange.

And Jacob, do not mention the name Justin to me again ... I wish to forget his very existance. Strange, he certainly was.

Abe Babe...

Facsimile 07-02-2003 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Abe Babe
Hmmm, I can't recall calling DI strange. I did say he was a good moderator, but he does close topics sometimes without letting people know the reason. Although I've seen other mods do that at other forums too, so it's not quite strange.
Fourth Concept has been exaggerating... Now that's no way to make yourself look better.

Fourth Concept 07-02-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Abe Babe
Hmmm, I can't recall calling DI strange. I did say he was a good moderator, but he does close topics sometimes without letting people know the reason. Although I've seen other mods do that at other forums too, so it's not quite strange.

And Jacob, do not mention the name Justin to me again ... I wish to forget his very existance. Strange, he certainly was.

Abe Babe...

This post, though not particularly offensive, is the reason I left. I am back now to tell you all this because I think it is important to know.

Abe Babe contacted me after I complained of DI. She responded by saying that DI has a track history of closing threads for no reason, and often in an uncalled for bout of strangeness that gives an air of confusion afterwards.

Later she completely denies doing it. I have the email in my "read mail" folder, and I will forward it to anyone who asks for it.

DI has actually admitted to doing this sort of thing because he is bored, but she still denies it? Yep, bye bye, I'm outta here.

Disgruntled Intern 07-03-2003 12:03 AM

Right.

I close threads because I'm bored.

Mac the Janitor 07-03-2003 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by Fourth Concept
Yep, bye bye, I'm outta here.
Yay.

Alcar 07-03-2003 04:33 AM

I agree with you Fourth Concept that DI is absolutely shocking and will endeavour to serve you for the rest of my life. I mean, you've left us with proof that we all suck, therefore to make sure I don't suck I'll leave with you.

Jesus! Get a grip, Abe Babe was most likely talking about me. I used to close a few unneccessary threads, and DI had complained about it. She must just have got it mixed up.

DI's a fine Moderator, though I think he's a little harsh on some of the members. They eventually turn out to be whackos anyway. Whether or not they were like that before DI pounced upon them is still confusing me ;)

We have done nothing wrong by you, you've given your opinions of the forum. And the people that inhabit the forum have given you, their opinions of you.

Internet mercenarys are getting reallllllllly annoying now.

Alcar...