But if you don't read about it. how would you know it's true? Darwin wrote that evolution book. He wasn't there when the earth was created so how would we know he's not lying or made misconceptions? How can you say it makes more sense if you don't read about it?

Not necessarily, because they actually found a bible written in another language and it was translated and written exactly as an english bible. Also, that's why Matthew, Mark, and Luke were the same but differently explained because they are different people and have different ways of writing but the stories are still the same.When we look at the thousands of old Bible manuscripts in the original languages of Greek and Hebrew available for study by anyone wishing to look, we find exactly that.
The teachings of Jesus Christ remain the same, whichever ancient manuscript we look at. They have not changed.

It actually does mean that he's powerful. God could of destroyed the Earth and start all over again. He could of destoryed the devil if he had to. He proved to satan that he can create another being, less than he was, and still will be honest, happy, etc. Just because god gave mankind a will does not mean that he's not all powerful.

Satan was good from the start. He was beautiful and had everything he wanted except being powerful than God. Lucifer wanted to steal the throne from God and rule heaven and share the glory with him but God refused. So, Lucifer started to rebel and was sent to hell and those angels who took his side went to hell also. The thing is that Satan does not control Hell, God does. Satan is getting thrown in the fire for eternity just like the rest of the souls down there. He's too busy burning to rule anything.

Other planets? Nevermind.

Anyways, I think it will be good to go back to the bishop topic after you reply jacob.

heh, do these two always go at it like this?

I think is a bit ridiculous that Jacob is arguing for hard evidence for the Bible, otherwise he will not take a single thing from the Bible seriously. That is just as bad as following the Bible blindly, which is what Pinky seems to be doing. I think that it does not really matter what mehtod you use to find God, or find out how the universe began, as long as you find a way there with respect to other people, does it matter? You may travel a different path, but your goals are the same. This is what matters, finding your inner self whether it be thorugh tradiditon religions, or even science.

As for the whole bishop thing, I'll say it again; things change.

The Catholic church has changed many times int he past all the way from Luther. The Catholic church does not kill millions of people in order to spread the word of God anymore. Various sects have been formed but all preach basically the same creed. And this Bishop should preach the word of God as he sees fit.


also, just to reinterate, the Cradle of Civilization is in Africa, but the first major civilization were in the Middle East.

Oh well I had many a point to make in this post, but I'm not going to. I don't see any use when Pinky can't even understand what we mean half of the time and keeps using points we have proved incorrect, and, as MrBoj said, is following the bible blindly.
But one last thing: Who the hell is Darwin?

well, I just think we should all be more open to things and not say it is incorrect just because it does not follow tradition.

And do you really not know who Darwin is? Charles Darwin? He is the guy who developed the theory of evolution back in the 1800s....you must know who he is.

What do you mean by following the bible blindly? What about Muslims? WOuld they follow the Qu'ran blindly? What about buddist? Is by them reaching enlightment, are they doing it blindly? Would evolution be a blindly method too because it doesn't make sense for a guy from the 1800's understand the concepts of the beginning of life when he wasn't there? How do we know if he's wrong? Technology in the 1800's wasn't that great when the people believe that everything evolved around the Earth.

I understand what your talking about Fascsmile. It seems to me you don't understand what I'm talking about when I already gave you the answer and you keep bringing up the same question.

You don't know who Darwin is? What do you believe in?

I believe in evolution, but that doesn't mean I have to know who created the theory. I don't go looking it up. And if you look at apes it seems pretty obvious anyhow...

But that's what I mean. How do you know that the bible isn't wrong?

TGA has returned from the sulphurous fires of Hell, with an all new look!

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Oh, HI everyone!

yaaaaaay!!!!! It'a sydman!!!!!:)

Hi Pinky. I'm not sure 'sydman' is the right nickname anymore.

Hmm, why do you say that? I'm glad you came and said hello because we've missed you!!

Because he is a she...

???? Okkkaaaaayyyyyy......he is a she?

You got a sex job?

Yeah, sure.
 

You idiot. I am a christian, and I do beleive, just because I said I would happily burn a bible does not mean that I wish to openly disrespect - if you had read my words, you would know that I stated I would happily burn a bible NOT TO DISRESPECT GOD but to disrespect those who have changed the bible beyond the teachings of God. God teaches us to tolerate all, this is a hard goal to acheive with ignorance like yours in this world.

And I have to say, that is the most ignorant response I have ever read. The teachings of Jeesus and God HAVE been manipulated and changed over the years to suit the changes in society, one change that has not been accounted for most recently is the recent acceptance of gays into the worlds communities.

If you genuinely understood my post, you would know that I was not being offensive at all, but in fact making total sense. And I am not telling anyone to burn a bible, I am saying that I would, and if you would to then that's your parogative.

If you were truly in the position to argue against my opinion and point, then you would know that THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

Thankyou.

Oh...look at that...its a point been proven...by a Christian...something i havent seen in a long time...well done, you...

so fourth, you will burn it if they cahnged it?

Re: Yeah, sure.
 

I thought you were jewish... I don't know, maybe I'm just going crazy.

*is strangely amused by Death's posting format*

Look, I don't take the bible word for word. I know it's been changed. But, it's still saying that you would do something that would disrespect so many people pubicly that I object to.

Many religious laws were created as guidelines for living. For exapmle the Jewish and Islamic laws against eating Food made from pigs, was made to protect people, when these animals were dirty, and unsafe to eat.

Pinky, all that applies to the Bible...

Think of the game Chinese whispers...the story will change after a couple of years. Anyway, the fact that its been translated also doesn't mean it can be trusted as much...since there is a margin for error.

No, but he didn't know why we sinned. Which leads me onto he's not all knowing. Which in the term "knowledge is power" means he's not all powerful either.

Ok, firstly Satan and Lucifer are completly different Angels. Secondly Lucifer still is beautiful, it is said he has the face of a child. Thirdly Lucifer didn't agree with the whole "being less important as the humans" and got jealous. And the whole "Satan or Lucifer don't control Hell" is wrong. Because they do control Hell. Satan is the Prince of Demons (or the East of Hell, i forget) and Lucifer is the ruler of Hell. My theory just goes as they're all on the same side, but somebody wanting to make it more interesting stated there was a massive fight between good and evil etc.

Anyway, as Pink said...the Bishop topic