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I was also one of the members who was banned from both Oddchat and the forums. I know that I was banned from Oddchat for just ****ing around. I have no problem with that, seeing as how I don't go there very often anyway. But in the last few days I was there, I was a relatively good person. People knew it was me, and I talked a little. What DID piss me off was I was banned from the forums because I openly admitted I didn't like the way Sydney ran things. I've never done anythng bad on the forums. I was a regular contributor, and had quite a few friends. I saw no reason why I should be banned from the forums. This to me was very, very wrong.
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*Cracks neck*
Ahhh yes. The whole mutiny thing. I did do a topic on this, but, it got deleted by somebody. It was really good aswell, highly dramatic…all about violation and the raping of somebodies status. All very Broadway…heh. Anyways, I would like to know…WHOM deleted it…and why. Anyways, moving swiftly on…a lot of things have been said…all very interesting points and now I would like to put my points in…Ahem; Sydney – Ok, so we’ve had our differences. And he has judged me from past actions, but he has gotten rid of a lot of wankers whom deserved to be deleted and thus is a relativly good Admin. He also mingles with us from time to time. Abe Babe – Don’t know her that well. She stuck up for me in the past. Ermmm…that’s it. Oh, she did make Justin Super-Mod…which is strange and shows some kind of favourtism… Alcar – Don’t blame him. He went were he thought there would be power…I would have done the same…nuff said. Pilot – Ermmm…he’s ok. Although did state that I never contributed to topics seriously, in which a lot of the other forumers, whom disliked me, said that was wrong and I did. He also tried to be sinister and failed…how shaming… Ok, so, time to quote some people and laugh, mock, prove them wrong or generally congratulate them for saying certain things that I never would have thought of :
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Also, a point while im quoting. I dont believe Sydney was the one who banned me on one of the more recent occasions. And i believe it was Abe Babe. So please children...lets remember certain things... :
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Conclusion... It seems you all are taking it a little too seriously. Sure, it was a relativly bad thing...like i said, the word 'mutiny' springs to mind, but come, come. Saying stuff like 'You disgust me' and cursing them isn't going to help. If anything hasn't this little incident made the forums a little more interesting? I believe its boosted the exitement rating, mainly due to the fact that its taken a giant twist... Upto now they have made no mistakes. I believe Mr.Donut was forgiven about his malicious comments about the 9/11 attacks. Abe Babe has done something less than that, as for Justin...i do not know what to say. He has lied about me in the past and thus i believe that he could lie now...infact, he has, by stating he has always been truthful. I do not believe they should be stripped of their powers. I just think they should be watched over...If they do start to be slanderous...ban them...rape them of their 'supremacy'. Thats what they would do to us, right? If Disgruntled made a offensive remark then sure, thats bad, people have made offensive remarks here. They haven't been banned. If he questioned the way Sydney handled things...who cares? Its what makes us individuals. However, if Disgruntled got personal and truly nasty for a un-just cause then he should have been banned. Peoples views differ...get over it and stop making this to be such a big deal...when it really isn't. Toodles ~X~ Edit: Also, i have made fun of certain things people have said. Dont take it seriously, it was to lighten the mood but to also show how stupid certain things sounded... |
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Ah, I remember this. I had no idea it would turn into a huge topic like this. At 3 o clovk in the morning, I wasn't thinking very well. But now that I comprehend this, I see no other point for ever having demoted Sydney besides the banning of Morgan and Dave*cough*
Alcar, not to be nosey, I haven't really read this all to the last detail, but whats the "behind the scenes" stuff. I'm curious. I also noticed it was after Sydney left all this happened. Actualy we weren't really told about anything before he left. Thats no defense. I'm not sure if any of the oddchat thing is going to be said, but it is sort of what the whole Sydney banning the foruers was or. Behind his back stuff. I strongly hope whatever I knew about last night or my post doesn't offend anybody. I know I've talked to Sydney and hes a nice guy in oddchat, and I've talked to Alcar lots... Also, just to once again think about it, Abe Babe does have the vB software and Pilot has the server. And even if Pilot is good as a moderator, a promotion to Super Moderator I feel is still favorism from Kristens part. I guess I stand with Sydney now almost. I can see a slight point for Pilot/Alcar/Abe Babe, but seriously, I'm wondering why I thought this was a little deal last before. Tehehe! |
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Woud'nt we all just quit and leave and left him/her to hear nothing but crikets chirping.He/her'd just goof off anyway and would'nt know what to do.I admit I used to think Sindey was alittle strict but then, I decided she was the best person to be the learder here.No hard felling about what I said sindey.That was 2 years ago |
Facts and Fallacies
      I have been thinking, and I've found that people are a lot like a pond of ducks. You can give them all of your food, yet when you reach out to them, they run away. They are not very thankful creatures.
      I also want to sort out the fact from the fiction in this argument. After I say that if we were not all barriered by our computer screens, wed all be at each others' throats. For Shame. But that's human nature... nobody can argue with that... security in groups. So I'm not the least bit suprised that, naturally, everyone blindly flocks to the Administrator for safety and comfort without truly knowing their "enemy's" true motives. We're all a little ignorant at one time or another. Your anger and spite should not be directed at me, but the truly evil people of our world.       Also, I will not lie. I've always wondered if a difference of opinions could be settled peacefully between two humans. What have I found? Yes, it can! But only when there is a complete and unskewed understanding of the situation before them. When there is fear, uncertaintly, or doubt... senseless fighting erupts. It's relief to see people on here who have reacted calmly to this and who have not resorted to namecalling. Really, I ask, what is your idea in saying those kinds of things? They do not disturb me.       My sinister motive in pulling this off was (mark my words) never to gain control of the forums. My repsect is so great, not only for the forums founder, but for OWI themselves. I have too much at risk here. I gave people unlimited space on my server out of the kindness of my heart. God knows I have too much else to do. I would never have the time to administrate these forums. It's a shame that people in this modern world cannot just understand what true kindness is. My intentions were never ill. So, the reason this happened was because of this:       We have watched and known behind the scenes of the Oddworld Forums. I know the story of it's origins, which are not pink and wrapped in a bowtie. We did what we did in order to stand up for the rights of ourselves, our fellow employees, and our fellow forum members. Don't think otherwise, because you will once again be in a pit of darkness. The reason I typed what I did was to create a groundbreaking new attitude here at the forums, even if it put my decent reputation at risk. Got your attention, no doubt? Sure, it was an unpleasant way of doing so, but it worked. It was also a very good time to get my own word out to the people. I presume that nobody 'really' read what I wrote there... they just picked up the parts about Sydney.       Jacob, I'd like to say that you are one I agree with here. It is very true that I have misjudged you in the past. Kristen and I were even discussing before this mess how you had strightened up. Anyway, you are right.       Sydney, would you like to tell these people about some of the stuff you've done; I mostly speak of the stuff you have done to us? after all of this, you feared that the forums had forgotten about you; that you were old news. I've proved you wrong, haven't I? You're the man in charge. Handle your responsibility carefully, though. You're in an incredible place of power and you cannot squander that! There are people here who look up to you my friend. You cannot betray that. |
Re: Facts and Fallacies
First of all, let me say that I for one am not impressed by your vague sinister warnings. I would be far more impressed if you actually told us what you meant without shrouding it in wordplay and metaphor.
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Which brings me on to one final point - it is not just a website, it is Sydney's website. If this were the Official Oddworld Forums, then you would have had every right to kick off an Administrator if you wanted to, but this board was founded by Sydney, and has always been his. |
Justin, the fact that you host Oddworld Forums on your server was never overlooked. I never knew that when accepting your offer, you would suddenly be given the right to throw me around as you see fit. If anyone is abusing their power here, it's you.
People aren't "flocking blindly" to me. They are finally seeing the extreme, absurd lengths you will go to in an effort to protect your obsession: Oddworld. Regardless of what your motives are here, it's clear that the overwhelming majority see this situation for what it is. You even admitted yourself that you were wrong, but try to justify it with long-winded, ambiguous responses that serve little purpose other than to self-glorify. Don't try to tell people you have nothing but respect for me. That's a joke. If you had an ounce of respect for me you never would have attempted to embarress me in the way you did. You act as though you are an all-knowing, mysterious being watching over the forums, whose purpose is to point out the flaws in others while denying he has any of his own. The fact is that you do make mistakes, and do all you can to cover them up: Those who don't know, I had responded to Surfacing's post in the Odd Tour topic which asked me if I had the chance of meeting Justin and Kristen. I had explained that I was unable to meet them. Kristen and Justin had said they respected my decision. That didn't stop them from abusing the information they had found on the internet. They traced the whereabouts of my residency and their car slowly gurgled through my neighbourhood. They invaded my privacy and disrespected the decisions I'd made. The next day, my message had been deleted and they made me out to be the villain, as always, when they were obviously in the wrong. :
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That'd be quite a good film, just add a couple of slaughtered bodies along the way and we have a blockbuster... |
I had a feeling that post wasn't deleted by you Sydney. I also notice more now that it seems that they (Kristen and Justin) may think of themselves as better...? Or that they deserve it for the fact they may love Oddworld more? I have no problems with any of the things they like, and alhtouhg I'd think the're trying to meet you was in good intentions, I believe you said you requested they not visit.
And Justin, I can see if Sydney was at all upset about him not being known. I think I mentioned to Alcar once about how it seemed everyone seemingly wanted ask Kristen for help or information, and not the other admin that knew just as much. Additionaly, I would like to second most of what Danny said. It seems sometimes your posts go offtrack with (more or less) imcromprehensible excuses. Please explain why you think Sydney is such a bad guy. EDIT: Chris, as much as that may be poking fun at Sydney, Justin and Kristen its quite hilarious. I would like to see a movie like that... |
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And they would have to be wearing suits and ties...with sunglasses. Heheh...sorry I couldn't resist!
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Hm... justin does have the "sunglass" look...
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Sydney, are you joking? Won't you tell the people the REAL reason you founded the forums? I also expected to hear that comment from you: "a measly attempt at manipulation." What floors me is the fact that nobody here has any regard for the feelings and needs of others. We're all harboring ill feelings about each other. Doesn't that just make the forums more like the real world? We're not living in a fairy tale as so many of you would like to think. You can damn me all you want, but the real problems in your lives are those which you'll encounter outside of your internet lives.
Heh, actually you're right. I do believe was wearing sunglasses at the time! But Sydney Kristen and I have already discussed this incident and have put it in our past. It has no relevance here. |
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      Sydney, you're really turning yourself into a victim here aren't you? What has happened has happened and this thread has no end. Ever. So you think you've been victimized? Open your eyes and look at the REAL victims in this world. I can't believe how some people will think they have it so bad off that they are blind to the real pain and sufferring in the world. Look around you. You've got nothing on that.
You are not a bad person, just misunderstood like the rest of us. You've made mistakes, and so have I. Who do we think we are? some sort of super-humans who are always right and never mess up? We think we're better than each other? We are NOT! I'm going over board here. But nobody here can change what happened, so accept it. The only reason the Forums would be changed in any way is if people remain true to their nature and retain the negative feelings toward one another. Danny, I said "more like the real world" and not "like the real world." I mean that in the sense that people hate one another, and that is the cause of problems. Don't get me wrong. The world is a very beautiful place. That is the way I really see it, but nobody can deny anything I have said in the original announcement. That side does exist, and most choose to ignore it. |
Can we know what Sydman did already?
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Pinky, I have been busting at the seams to list my grievances to all of you and end this mess... but everyone knows deep inside that what I say would be instantly denied for the sole reason of protecting the ego and stature. Let's see how things go...
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Just what does the reasoning behind the creation of the forums have to do with its current worth? It's like saying the child of a criminal should be shunned...
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I cant believe this has happened. I was on Oddchat last night when all of this happened. And I didnt really comprehend at the moment what was truly going on but I remember that Syd had banned two people Morgo I think that was Joe the Intern, and someone else I heard from somewhere they were doing something bad, or just voicing their opinions, though before I left I remember Syd saying he was banning them, and I just brushed it off, I pray that this can be resolved, I feel like the forums are falling apart around us all.
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WEll *cough* I don't know Jacobs ip for oddchat, I don't think he'd be doing it. As far as I could even know he wouldn't give a second thought. But lets not discuss this all right now. Besides, we don't want some random thing coming up now. It was technicly 4 of us regualr forumers who actualy caused this.
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First off, I am reading a lot of people saying I gave Justin the Super Moderator position because he's a friend of mine. Even Sydney can back me up in saying that it was given to him because he provided server space for the forums at a time it was needed.
Now, does anyone remember a poll that was here not long after we moved to the vBulletin software. The poll was asking to vote for your favorite Administrator. For some reason Danny was also included, but that's beside the point. The last I saw of the poll was that (and I am honestly not just saying this, I swear) I was voted well ahead. The next thing I know, the poll has been deleted. Not closed like topics usually are, but deleted. It must have been by Sydney, for what reason I do not know (perhaps because it was a silly topic, but maybe for other reasons). I bought that up for a reason. Everyone here is saying Sydney has always been their favorite Administrator or the best. But obviously at the time of the poll he was not. What if the situation were reversed, and I was in Sydney's position? I am sure Sydney would have been seen as the bad guy and everyone feeling sorry for me. It's human nature ... side with everyone else, or side with the person who seems like wrong has been done to them. I'm not saying everyone who is against us is like this, but I'm just meaning that many would have different views if the situation were reversed. Abe Babe... |
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Also, i haven't used any sexual slurs, have i? And anyway, i dont go on Oddchat...i tend to believe i am too superior for that...my shallowness |
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Jesus....Yes pinky. |
Well Im sorry, Disgruntled Intern, but God can be with all of us especially when people tend to fight with eachother its not the best thing for there souls, I just am a religious person, and God can always comfort us.
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Vykker, join the club :D |
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"Shut the Hell up...Its annoying(!)" If not, then im saying it. And can we just get down to the ACTUAL cause of things please!! WHY-WAS-HE-RAPED-OF-HIS-POSITION-OF-ADMIN!?!?!?!?!?!!? I dont want no metaphors etc, just please...please state!! Im sure Sydney wont mind... |
Well Jacob why dont you shut the hell up, no one wants to hear you you are annoying if anything, and maybe you should have been there to know why he was stripped of his power and duties.
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Can't we all just get along again? Put the past behind us and move on.
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im with Surfacing, lets just get along people, its only right:fuzsad:
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(2) - Thats your opinion... (3) - Ahhh yes...This is were i patronise you and say "Of course" (4) - HE WAS STRIPPED!? Now, taking his Admin powers away is one thing, but stripping him...Al, i dont think you should be bragging about stripping a 17 yr old person...do you? |