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Jacob 08-15-2002 10:15 PM

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Oh well Jacob, it's your child don't look in the eyes you do....hmmm..when did you have a child?
Do i have to find someone who speaks fluent Moron or are you going to be kind enough to decipher what you just said!?

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-15-2002 10:21 PM

I speak this type of language to arrogant, moron, schizophrenics such as yourself.:D I underestimated your intellegence. It's not hard to understand.

I was saying, I don't see what you see in a disabled person. And if you have disabled children and decide to put them to sleep, that's your choice not mine. Wow, was that so hard?

Jacob 08-15-2002 10:29 PM

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I speak this type of language to arrogant, moron, schizophrenics such as yourself. I underestimated your intellegence. It's not hard to understand.

Gosh, Marjorie, aren't you sassy today, did Santa finally bring you that Y-chromosome ya always wanted!?

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-15-2002 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob


Gosh, Marjorie, aren't you sassy today, did Santa finally bring you that Y-chromosome ya always wanted!?

LOL! I think you need it more than I do, if ya know what I mean ;)

Gluk Schmuck 08-16-2002 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I dont want a car yet...And if i did get one i would be very cautious in it. And very aware of other drivers...
You mean nobody else is going to run into you? Good luck.

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Originally posted by PinkHaired Mudokon CWR
Besides Jacob, your still young, you may have your liscense, when if you get a car accident then you may be disabled or paralyzed? It has happened. That would put you in a disabled person's shoes. Would your views change then?
I'd want to be euphanised if I was completely paralyzed but if just my lower half was parylised then I wouldn't kill myself. I'd kill myself if I went blind though.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 10:36 AM

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I dont want a car yet...And if i did get one i would be very cautious in it. And very aware of other drivers...
People can bump into. This weirdo bumped into me but it really wasn't that bad of an accident. He bumped me into this person's yard and I had to get a toe truck and I was in troubblllleeeee.

salty pretzils 08-16-2002 04:27 PM

Hmmm....If I got a disabilty that put me in constant agony, or if I went blind and deaf, or if I was totally paralysed so I couldn't move at all, I'd want to die.
Jacob, do you consider blind, deaf and people with mental conditions inferior? Actully, wait, I allready know the answer to that. How severe does a condition have to be to warrent a person not worthy of existing?

Jacob 08-16-2002 05:48 PM

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do you consider blind, deaf and people with mental conditions inferior?
No. I dont consider anyone inferior. I just believe that people who wont have a decent shot at life should be put out of their misery. Deaf and Blind people can have a decent shot at life. As can wheel-chaired people. Its the ones who are spastic that dont (If thats offensive to anyone, apologies.)

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People can bump into. This weirdo bumped into me but it really wasn't that bad of an accident. He bumped me into this person's yard and I had to get a toe truck and I was in troubblllleeeee.
Did he? Did he, Pinky? Or did you attempt to run him off the road cos he had Pink, fluffy dice hanging from his rear-view mirror!?

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You mean nobody else is going to run into you? Good luck.

Of course they wouldn't run into me...Im Bisexual.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Did he? Did he, Pinky? Or did you attempt to run him off the road cos he had Pink, fluffy dice hanging from his rear-view mirror!?
No, because that car he was driving he stole it! (the police called a toe for me and told me that the car that man drove, he stole it)

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Of course they wouldn't run into me...Im Bisexual.
It doesn't matter who you are (ignoramus). That might be a reason why to run you over! Mwahaahaha!

Jacob 08-16-2002 08:00 PM

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(the police called a toe for me and told me that the car that man drove, he stole it)
Really? Thats one strong toe...wow...You Americans must have amazing toes...

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It doesn't matter who you are (ignoramus).
I was being sarcastic, Majorie.

Danny 08-16-2002 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
No. I dont consider anyone inferior. I just believe that people who wont have a decent shot at life should be put out of their misery. Deaf and Blind people can have a decent shot at life. As can wheel-chaired people. Its the ones who are spastic that dont (If thats offensive to anyone, apologies.)
Who are you to decide who will have a decent shot at life and who won't? You can't just decide arbitrarily based purely on their disability. CP Sufferers might learn to cope and want to live. Deaf or Blind people might not be able to cope and might want to die. It is not your decision who gets to live and who gets to die. Basing your decision around a person's physical capabilities is just absurd.

Remember, Voluntary Euthanasia (which is what you support, you told me over MSN) means that it is their choice, and nobody else's.

Sydney 08-16-2002 09:30 PM

Many people with Down's Syndrome are very joyful. Their life is all they've ever been able to experience, so they don't question their disabilities. The same goes for people who are born deaf or blind.

Danny 08-16-2002 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by Sydney
Many people with Down's Syndrome are very joyful.
I believe Chris was referring to Cerebral Palsy. (That's what "Spastics" suffer from, isn't it?)

Jacob 08-16-2002 09:50 PM

Danny, when did i say i would commit Euthanasia?
And exactly how would somebody paralysed, who is not able to speak, feed themselves or bathe themselves going to have a 'decent shot at life' its cruel making them live if they dont want to. I was merely stating that if i had a child and it was all of the above and my wife didn't want to keep it, i would allow it to be...euthanised.

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Many people with Down's Syndrome are very joyful
Its amazing what the Drugs can do...

Danny 08-16-2002 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Danny, when did i say i would commit Euthanasia?
In the paragraph below.

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And exactly how would somebody paralysed, who is not able to speak, feed themselves or bathe themselves going to have a 'decent shot at life' its cruel making them live if they dont want to. I was merely stating that if i had a child and it was all of the above and my wife didn't want to keep it, i would allow it to be...euthanised.
See?

So you advocate Involuntary Euthanasia now?

EDIT: Don't get me wrong here, I am a full supporter of Voluntary Euthanasia, but there would have to be a very extreme set of circumstances before I could condone Involuntary Euthanasia.

Jacob 08-16-2002 10:04 PM

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See?
I know, i had it stating 'Homicide' before.

But i explained myself before...

Danny 08-16-2002 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
But i explained myself before...
I don't care. You have no right to decide whether or not another person is worthy of life, even if (especially if) they are your child. And I don't believe for a second that you would ask your child if they wanted to die...

Sydney 08-16-2002 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
I believe Chris was referring to Cerebral Palsy. (That's what "Spastics" suffer from, isn't it?)
I was referring to Jacob's general belief that those with birth defects wont enjoy life as much.

Jacob 08-16-2002 10:28 PM

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I don't care. You have no right to decide whether or not another person is worthy of life, even if (especially if) they are your child. And I don't believe for a second that you would ask your child if they wanted to die...
I was talking about voluntary Euthanasia and a pre-birth child...

Danny 08-16-2002 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Sydney
I was referring to Jacob's general belief that those with birth defects wont enjoy life as much.
Acknowledged.

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Chris:
I was talking about voluntary Euthanasia and a pre-birth child...
Ah. I must have gotten confused. I apologise.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 10:29 PM

Don't worry Dan, Jacob's gone crazy (like always). I do agree what Dan said and what sydman just said.

Jacob 08-16-2002 10:34 PM

But they've edited, Majorie.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
But they've edited, Majorie.
Will you stop calling me Majorie!:rolleyes:

Edit: Also, I edit my post sometimes. Does it mean what i said before like they didn't either?

Jacob 08-16-2002 10:54 PM

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Does it mean what i said before like they didn't either?
Ok, listen here Marj, i do not understand your neandethol ways. So, you have two options;

(1) - Learn to speak the language that i, a English guy, speaks
or
(2) - Leave me the Hell alone!!

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob


Ok, listen here Marj, i do not understand your neandethol ways. So, you have two options;

(1) - Learn to speak the language that i, a English guy, speaks
or
(2) - Leave me the Hell alone!!

LOL! You never understand anyone! Here's your options

1. You can go to some type of comprehension class. English is not my first language, what's your excuse?

or

2. Stop making a complete ass of yourself.

Edit: What I mean to say was, when I edit something, you think I really mean what I said. When someone else edits their post, your like oh they didn't mean it. That's why you sound stupid. I'm not the one who thinks disabled people don't deserve to live.

Danny 08-16-2002 11:01 PM

Seriously, Pinky, you should only really argue in languages that you speak, because otherwise you will just end up confusing everyone (not least yourself). Go and find a Spanish forum to argue in, or something...

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
Seriously, Pinky, you should only really argue in languages that you speak, because otherwise you will just end up confusing everyone (not least yourself). Go and find a Spanish forum to argue in, or something...
I can speak English also. If I confuse you so much, then you wouldn't understand any of my post, also you would not understand what I am saying now. There is no spanish oddworld sites. So ciantase porfavor...

Jacob 08-16-2002 11:13 PM

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Edit: What I mean to say was, when I edit something, you think I really mean what I said. When someone else edits their post, your like oh they didn't mean it. That's why you sound stupid. I'm not the one who thinks disabled people don't deserve to live.
They never repeated it in every other post, Marj.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob


They never repeated it in every other post, Marj.

I don't. Would you know? It's because you keep brining it up. Like the recreational sex crap.

Jacob 08-16-2002 11:20 PM

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(1)Would you know?(2) It's because you keep brining it up.
(1) - No...cos you edited it out.

(2) - You brought it up this time, Miss...

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 08-16-2002 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob


(1) - No...cos you edited it out.

(2) - You brought it up this time, Miss...

1. Other people do too.

2. Your the main one brining it up.

You know what Jacob, just sit down, sit down I'm wasting my time. LOL! Let's get back on the subject on what you think about disabled people.

Jacob 08-16-2002 11:54 PM

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Let's get back on the subject on what you think about disabled people.
I think they should be able to die if they want...