Peaple say that It aint nice to the baby. But sence the baby aint experienced nothing, it has nothing to lose. So the baby wont mind at all.

Ah, yes. If the baby was cuased by a "acsedent" then the woman should defenetly be able to remove it. But It should not be aloud as a last minute panic change of mind.

Grrrrrr...i had this amazingly massive comeback for all of Pinky's ramblings and my comp crashed.

Basically Pinky seems to be labelling all Abortee's with the same label. She cannot comprehend the word "Accident" the whole process of making Love is not to have a baby but to bond with each other and become closer to one another. Pinky seems to think that sex is all about babies. Which is a typical Holy point of view and really does make me laugh at her and her pathetic little life of shite (Apologies...but its one of those days).

Also, she believes everything her family says, she is one of those children were if you say "That man is bad, he is smoking, he will go to Hell." she will go "Bad man...Hell...Smoking = Hell." she sees in black and white and not grey like normal teens.

She backs things up with fictional stories that she CANNOT back-up. Sure, she may say she's backing her point up...but she isn't, cos we will never know for sure.

All in all Pinky is very troubled and i will personally laugh my head off when she finds out what the real world is like. She is being prejudiced and deserves a smacking from all the mothers and fathers who have had to go through the choice of having an abortion. Pinky is out of order saying that the mothers are selfish. You do literally make me want to lash out Pinky, cos you are so out of order its unbelievable. Oh, and for the record, i am not dissing your religion...i am dissing its beliefs. Homophobia is dangerous, thats why i dislike it. Homosexuality is not...

Well said, Chris. I've never before found myself agreeing with you as much as I have in this topic...

But you're fighting a losing battle. It is impossibly to reason with someone who doesn't know the meaning of the word "reasonable". Believe me, I've tried. Many times...

That song is stupid.

Here's why:
The guy says 'I wouldn't want my baby to go through what
I went through.'
Where does the girl mention anything that would suggest that her child will go through anything his mother went through?

Completely stupid. Apart from that, I like the song.

Edit: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cityh...ouldyoudo.html

And why do you want Chris to download that song? It seems to support his point but not yours...

Wow, it's so stupid, it was number one for like three or four months and they won best music group. it does not seem to support his point. I don't even think you know what the song means. It talks about excuses and Jacob making more excuses than everyone on this Earth. Besides, you did not even post the song right.

On to Jacob

You can talk about my family all you want ,You can say anything you want about me I don't care because you don't know me or my family. I did not come to this topic to argue with you. What's your problem? Your the one started it and you just won't admit that you are wrong. If I said something offensive I apologize but I didn't catch why you are arguing with me and I feel as though I did not say anything. I was upset because you lied about me saying that you are going to hell which I never said that to you nor made fun of your sexuality. Your just making up those lies. Your not upsetting me, you have a troubled life and you are I'm afraid to say it but a 3BG. You are a big liar so just shut-up because you are just mad because you don't have anything to back up what you are talking about so you have to diss me make fun of me, so this proves it. You don't even know what I believe, you think that everyone has to be gay and so such and you were dissing my beliefs. People will look like you are stupid when you say that having sex is not a choice and it's an accident to get pregnant, I am helping you out because people will look at you like you are a foo Jacob if you think that it's not your fault if you cheat on someone, have unprotected sex, etc. You don't get it! It's like I have to tell you ten millions times you cannot comprehend You don't even know what the real world is like and I am just laughing at you Jacob because you really sound stupid, and you think that people won't kill? Rape? it's like you are saying that no one does bad on this Earth. You thinks it's safe out their and nothing bad can happen to you. You need to get a reality check...better yet, you need to hang out in the streets more instead of staying home and playing with your balls all day and bitching at people. Besides, you started this argument with me so there. I don't want to argue with you anymore because it's stupid. I can voice my opinions on abortion, that's what this topic is about, not about "Jacob is bitching again for no reason".

Anyways, I just don't like abortion. I think it's wrong. If your not financial stable or emotionally stable, then wait until you are financially stable or until your committed. I'm done-

I don't think you do either. Besides, everything you say we have to believe and your right too. Figures.....

1. I never said it wasn't popular. I just mentioned that the lyrics didn't make sense.

2. It's also about the problems associated with having children when you aren't ready.

3. I missed out a comma to correct the grammar and you tell me off?

1. How can the lyrics not make sense?

2. Yeah that's right and it talks about some other things too because the mother was a prostitute, and it talks about getting on your feet and stop making all of these tired excuses.

3. No not that it's just the lyrics you posted are not right, that's all.

1. It's not hard to not make any sense, evidently.

2. What if abortions were made illegal? Then her perfectly valid excuse would probably be 'but I couldn't have had an abortion.'

I still belive the song supports the cause of pro-choice a lot more than the that of 'pro-life'. Feel free to prove me wrong though...

I can post the lyrics.

(1) - I dont want to, you bring them up to try and prove your correctness.

(2) - If i said everything i thought about you it would be old and un-original.

(3) - My point proven.

(4) - You knew its a controversial topic.

(5) - Your views that will contribute to more f*cked upness in the world.

(6) - There is no right or wrong answer. Just reasonable and non-reasonable.

(7) - oooooooK?

(8) - Your making up your proof.

(1) - What did you say earlier?

(2) - I know.

(3) - Of course.

(4) - Your the one telling people that gays are gay so they can get laid.

(5) - You believe all abortee's are selfish and wanna have sex and all gays are gay for pity.

(6) - I think everybody has to be understanding and open.

(7) - I never said sex wasn't a choice. Of course it is. But having sex helps make a relationship stronger. It is proven that good sex helps a relationship. Bad sex will hinder it. Having sex before a marriage will help people figure out if they want to commit. Also sometimes pregnancy can be accidental.

(8) - You aren't you are making a idiot out of yourself. If somebody cheats on somebody it is their fault unless they get proof from a Doctor that they have a problem

(1) - I do Pinky, i do.

(2) - And i pity you.

(3,4 & 5) - I never said anything to do with that!! Please quote me were i said sumat like that!!

(6) - Pinky, you need to mingle with some real people instead of "Holier than thou" religious, bible bashers and realise that the world your living in is just a sugar coated world were all the people you know see in black and white.

(1) - You did. You will see in my conclusion.

(2) - Stupid = Jacob has a point and i dont want to admit it.

(3) - See my conclusion.

(4) - Conclusion...see it.

Conclusion:
Basically Pinky you speak without thinking. You believe you are right when you are so wrong, that wrongness is actually laughing at you. You could have easily offended people, saying abortion is for selfish people. Saying that homosexuality is for people who want to get laid. Pinky, i could get laid, i dont need to say im Bisexual for somebody to lay me. You say people are laughing at me? Then fine, let them laugh. I for one know i am better off not being in a family like yours, they personally would make me sad and depressed. Their teachings are wrong and immoral. You dont have to be married just so you can have sex. Having sex can be for fun and make you bond with somebody more. Psychologists have proven that having good sex is more likely to make your relationship last longer. If you get married and are bad in bed it is likely you will be divorced. Also, some people can be addicted to sex and thus cheat more. You need to start living in the real world, all of us lot have used scientificr research to prove our points. You have used your closet case bro and ex to prove yours. Two people who we dont know, which thus makes your "Point" non-existant.

I am all DONE.

..And your point is? I don't care what you say Jacob, all of that is not true and you tend to lie all the time and start arguments with people so conclusion..whatever. I mean, your lie about me saying" that homosexual are going to hell" is getting old and pretty fast . I never said you were going to hell, nor did I judge you on your sexuality. Nothing on this topic was scriptural base, nor was that homosexual topic. So is that your only combat? It's obvious that your mad because I have valid proof than you do and you don't have anything better to do besides make fun of people and ramble on and on about the samr thing. I would stop right now because you are making a complete ass of yourself. Your wasting my time and others I don't care anymore.

Anyways, back on topic

I believe that in the past you have mentioned something about homosexuality and Hell. Cos i remember somebody saying that its a bunch of shit.

Pinky, you are obviously losing as you are saying "I dont care anymore" which is something you say when you start to lose. Everybody knows this and everybody laughs as soon as you say it. I may be making an ass out of myself but i am making a point as i do. You dont, you are just showing what a nasty, spitefilled, little girl you are. Just because i start to shed light on your beliefs starting to be wrong you go off in a hissy fit. You, my dear, may not be lying but everybody knows that your beliefs are;

(1) - Appalling.
(2) - Nasty.
(3) - Prejudiced.
(4) - Not worth beliving.
(5) - and should be kept to the believers.

I have a point Pinky, you sweetheart, do not.

Can't we all just get along?

Seriously though, could everyone save the vicous arguments for their personal lives (or to each other via PM) so that the rest of us don't have to hear them? I don't think I'm the only one who finds these cat fights annoying so please shut up.

Just tell your opinion and let other members tell theirs, don't try to convince them they are wrong.

Btw, that message was intended for EVERYONE on the forums (self included). I think that the fights are dumb and this is the most recent. Hopefully people will be more considerate of other members from now on.

Um, no your beliefs are like that. You don't know what everythinks so your lying again. Your the one who is prejudice against christians and you seriously don't have a point. Your beliefs are sickening and inhumane and immature and naive. I did not say anything to start an argument. like Khaz said, these arguments are dumb so please shut-up and leave me alone. I'm not losing I don't care less about winning it's just annoying so get off my back Jacob. It's pointless Just deal with the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. i don't have to agree with you all the time.

I agree Khanz.

But these arguments are somewhat good. They teach newbies what we, the forumers, tolerate. And that we except people sharing their opinions so long as they dont think they are correct.

PINKY, SHUT UP!! LOL, JESUS CHRIST!! YOUR VIEWS CORRUPT THE WORLD, MINE DO NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE UNREASONABLE, MINE ARE NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE PREJUDICED, MINE ARE NOT (I was joking about that Christian thing.) Your views can do damage, especially if you have kids. You are seriously troubled girl, think about what your saying. Think about how you would feel in that position. I bet your the kind of person who believes Paedophiles being put to death is wrong. Pinky, face facts...the world is a big, donut shaped plop. God went wrong and so he has made another world somewhere else. He doesn't give a shit about us and the only reason people like you and my family exist is so that my kind can look at you and say "Thank God we are not like them." and praise his name. Pinky, tell me;

Why are your beliefs not unreasonable?
Why do you believe in them?
What do you hope to achieve by believing in them?
Why are you going against scientific evidence?
Why are you being so nasty to homosexuals and abortees!?

You are a very interesting person Jacob.

You shut-up! You are being such a prick! I tried to be calm but you are pissing me off! I do not have anything against homosexuals or abortees! I never said I was against gay people so stop lying! I just think the action of abortion is wrong. You think you are right all the time, and everything I say is wrong? Look whos talking! You are the most negative immature person I have ever met! You don't know the meaning of stop or leave me alone. You were not joking about the Christian thing. Eveyone has their own beliefs and I have every right to believe what i want to believe! I can believe that God exist. Get a life and LEAVE ME ALONE!! I don't have to explain to you nothing! Just except it! Your mind is out there somewhere, why are you getting so offensive? Just like Khaz said, don't try to convince people are wrong and allow me to tell my views. You agree what Khaz said? Yeah right! Your the one who is hateful, prejudice and saying that people's beliefs are wrong.

Pinky, i am not making fun of your beliefs. I, too, believe in God. Im Catholic...sort of but it doesn't mean i go around saying that "People who want abortions are selfish, cos all they want is sex" thats what pissed me off. Also, i am neither hateful nor prejudice. If i was hateful Pinky i would make you crumble within seconds...literally.
Also, im immature? Please, your the one name calling. And i do not want to prove that i am correct, as i said before, there is no correct answer. There is only the reasonable and unreasonable. Believe what you want to believe, but i have substantial evidence whilst you have your family (And who knows what they're like.).

Back on topic; Pro-choice.

Well then you don't have to agree what I say. Don't think that people are not doing things just to have sex, it happens sometimes people are crazy these days. If I say people who have abortions are selfish and blah blah blah, then you are just as worst sterotyping christians which makes me upset and assuming you know my family well and you thinking your better than me and know about pregnancy and menstration when you are a guy. Theirs nothing you can say to me that can make me crumble I've dealt with people worst than you (they are those types of people who want to beat you up when you first move in town, it's annoying) If it pisses you off then just say so instead of arguing and calling me names because it's only going to make the argument worst. Theirs people in the forums who are against abortion. Some people have abortions for pleanty of reasons and sex can be one of them. I mean, you don't want to prove that you are correct? Does this ring a bell: "YOUR VIEWS CORRUPT THE WORLD, MINE DO NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE UNREASONABLE, MINE ARE NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE PREJUDICED, MINE ARE NOT." I did not say that everyone does abortions for sex. I believe it's a cruel and selfish act and you just started arguing with me and calling me backwards. It's selfish because people can do it for sexual reasons, doesn't want to take the responsibility, and would not give the baby a chance in life because it's not the baby's fault that it's born. When if your mother aborted you? I think of it as a death penalty. You think it's wrong for a murder, but a child you don't think it's wrong? You have to think about it it's still a living and growing organism inside of a women. Some women fall into deep depressions too. I don't think I'm better than you. I have a right to voice my opinions. Before you decide to do sex, think of the consequences that's all I'm saying, and don't be stupid and say it's not your fault that you are pregnant. Take responsibility of your actions.

Lets take this one step at a time;

Thats not saying my reasons are correct. Thats saying yours are corrupt, unreasonable and prejudiced.

And you still dont understand, people now have recreational sex...accidents do happen.

Do you disagree?

Yeah and your wrong I am not corrupt, prejudice or unreasonable because I have friends all colors and beliefs I accept everyone. By You arguing makes you unreasonable and corrupt and you being against christians makes you prejudice.

Recreational sex, but still it's common sense and it's your choice. You can say no you can speak. It's like you going over your boyfriends house and you have sex and in a month you find out your pregnant and she says "It's not my fault" but it is she choose to sleep with him. That's crazy to think and I find it iffy to see that as an accident. Their was this girl on the radio, she was sleeping with this married man. She gave him AIDS and she said she was glad to give it to him because he shouldn't have cheated on his wife. Was that an accident? I mean, I don't do sex because I've seen how people are like. They are being called sluts, and carrying a baby around and you can't really do anything anymore and the father denies he's not the father.

This is not meant to be harsh.

(1) - I never said YOU were, i said your belief system was.
(2) - Not arguments, debates.
(3) - Im not against Christians.

You can speak, yes. But who wants to? Sex is good, its fun, it allows you to get to know each other, allows you to bond with the other person. Just because you have sex doesn't mean when you get pregnant its on purpose. Thats like saying when your fixing something, and it breaks. Thats on purpose. When it obviously isnt. You have to understand why people have sex, and mainly its due to peer pressure. But also cos its fun and the best form of exercise there is.

The woman did that with the intent of giving the man AIDS. When you have sex, its with the intent of having fun/bonding/loosing your V. Not having a baby.

My belief system is not prejudice because Jesus was not prejudice.
Sex is good when your commited because you don't have to worrry about diseases, calling you a slut and people going out with you because they know that you are easy, you can have someone to help you with the baby, and you can avoid testing everyone to see who is the father of your baby.

Yes, peer pressure but I have been pressured and I don't give in. I let guys know the real deal. I was brought up to not allow a guy to take advantage of me or ruin my life. Some people are weak, some are strong. Sometimes girls want babies but it's hard work and alot of money into it. You really can't do the things you use to anymore because you have a baby to worry about. When your married it's okay because you are working together.

(1) - Jesus didnt write the bible.

(2a) - Yes you do. Marriage doesnt make those past diseases disappear in thin air.

(2b) - They wouldn't do that.

(2c) - See conclusion.

(2d) - See Conclusion.

(2e) - See conclusion.

Conclusion;
It seems you believe that if you have sex outside of wedlock people will think that of you. They wont, if that is the case then you are calling most of my friends. You dont get diseases if your careful. You dont get preggers if your careful. You dont have to get a rep as being easy. I dont know who told you all of this but in 95% of cases it is wrong. Thats prejudiced Pinky, and it contradicts what your previously said.

Jesus was there in the beginning John 1 to 14 saids that.

Yes but majority of the time, people will think that of you because they think of marriage as an exception. I know, but chances of getting diseases are less because they have blood test laws before you get married. You can get a rep for being easy because people think like that and they assume that since tou slept with one person, you will sleep with anyone. It's not prejudice and it did not contradict what I said. It's not wrong 95% case, it's called life. Not everyone is going to care about you. You have to watch your life. Don't assume people are not going to call you easy or a whore because they will.

Edit: some choices in life have consequences. It's best to think before you act. What would happen if I do this? What consequences do I have to face? Do I need to lie about it? If so, then it's best to take responsibility of your own actions instead of making excuses and blaming other people for your faults.

Pinky, and Khanz, how do you feel about the morning after pill?

And, I agree with Jacob..accidents DO happen...[I speak from experience on that one :S]

Thanks for bringing me into this Disgruntled Intern after I thought I cleverly made sure I could stay away from these "debates".

But since you asked. I don't realy know much about how the pill works but if it kills the child after it has been concieved I think it is wrong. If it keeps the child from being convcieved than it is okay.

I feel realy naive. Should have paid more attention to when we talked about the pill in Health class. :fuzemb:

Theory
 

My theory of abortion is this: There are a plethora of adoption agencies out there. There are cases of rape and broken condoms that can't be helped but I don't understand it when people say, "Oh, I don't want to go through the trauma of giving up a baby to an agency." Isn't killing the baby worse than that? No matter what anyone says, abortion, in a very real sense, is killing a baby. That little piece of tissue, is a living piece of tissue. This isn't swatting flies people, this is killing children. Isn't it better to give that child a life with someone else rather than to kill it?

Don't be a f'ucking dick about it, Khanz.
Figures you wouldn't know.

Re: Theory
 

1. Don't you watch American medical dramas?

2. We're talking about abortion, not infanticide. Silly 'pro-lifers,' they can never tell the difference...

3. No it isn't. It's killing a foetus. So what if it's living tissue? There's already loads of that inside everyone (not including most dead people).

4. I didn't think you'd value the life of something that may be sentient over the life of something that almost certainly isn't... Very typical of 'pro-lifers'.

Experience? If you have a baby then we would talk. :D

Well Jacob, let's see what happens when you get a girl pregnant and think it's an accident then. Like it's an accident to cheat on someone. Wow, it's an accident to sleep with someone and fall on a man's "240". You don't have to get pregnant, some people chose not to because it's alot of responsibility.

Morning after pill is just as bad and it's not good for you.

Khaz what is it? It's an Emergency contraception (also known as the morning-after pill) is a high dosage of the birth control pill. It is recommended to be used after sexual intercourse, over a period of 72 hours, to achieve the goal of preventing or ending pregnancy. There are three different ways birth control pills are currently being promoted for this use: progesterone alone, estrogen alone, or both of these artificial steroids together. There are also some side effects nausea
vomiting, infertility, breast tenderness, life threatening, and blood clot formation, and basically ectopic pregnancy-can be life threatening.

Abortion and morning pills can also prevent your self of getting preganant again research shows.

Ha Gluk, I bet you don't even know what they do to aborted babies. It's nasty. Do you even know the definition of abortion. Silly Pro-choicers.

I mean I think the women should have the baby, that's how we have people on this earth and if the population keeps declining because of abortion, we are in trouble. Some cultures would look down on you, maybe even kill you because they believe in the "eye for an eye" or "a tooth for a tooth" concept.

Pinky, its obvious that you have been brought up in a family filled with 'pro-lifers' i say this mainly because they are 15 of you. Which, must have been harsh for your mum. I bet she'd gladly have an abortion if she wasn't a Christian.

Also, if i got a girl pregnant i would ask HER what she wanted to do. If she wanted an abortion, then fine. If not, then thats fine aswell.

Like somebody said, we have many living pieces of tissue in us. Smokers kill tonnes of cells, do you go around pestering them? Drinkers kill cells also. We are talking about TISSUE...im sure the baby would rather die then be brought up with a family who didn't want it, are stressed, with low income. The child would most likely turn violent and then if that has kids it'd start this chain reaction of Townie children. And everybody hates Townies.

Pinky, if every female in the world had one abortion then we still wouldn't be in trouble. Oh, and please say the word instead of the numbers. What the Hell is a "240"!?

Pinky, you have the paranoia that my family want me to have, its very scary. They always go "Are you sure they're your friends?" or "You dont want to be waitering all your life" or "Its a big commitment a baby is" and i just brush it off cos i am very wise. However, you seem to be shit scared of somebody calling you a "Slut" if you hold hands. Whats with that!?

Also, what would you call a accident Pinky? If a woman gets pregnant and the Penis did not enter the Vagina would that be a accident? Or is that on purpose?

I do really pity you Pinky, your paranoia will get you know were in life and its a shame that your gonna miss out on alot of your life through your bringing up. Im so glad i was wise enough to laugh at my family's remarks, unlike little, ole you.

Pinky and Khanz, put yourself in this position. Your mothers get raped, beaten and left for dead. A couple of months later they find out they are pregnant. Your financial situation is critical and your barely going to get by if you have another child, so, your mother is pondering an abortion. She doesn't want to, but she feels it would be best for the family. She asks for your advice, do you support her?

Pinky, if a woman gets an abortion she isn't being selfish, she is thinking of her future and the people around her who may get hurt. Having the child would be selfish, as the father would be in deep shit and he would have to live with that regret for the rest of his life.

Sex these days is about fun, bonding and caring for someone. Not just for breeding. We are not animals (Well, Dolphins have recreational sex.) and we deserve to have some fun in our shit little lives. Its just so happens that sex is the fun that gives us children aswell...

Having the child is not selfish. Your being selfish by killing it makes more sense that way because you keeping it, you care about that child so much, you would do whatever you can to move on. How do you think keeping it is selfish?

You think sex is for fun? Your sick I pity you! It's not so fun when you can't find the father of your baby or when you find out your pregnant and can't take care of the baby. You don't get it Jacob, don't be so gullable and stop assuming that the world is innocent all the time. If you think that then you obvious think that no one is going to kill you. Some people don't care these days. You see people getting killed just by going to the ice cream man, you can't even walk to the post office anymore. I'm not paranoid, I watch my life and I just don't jump into anything because their might be a consequence to it and I really don't feel like facing it. Things can be avoided. Abortion is not the only option if you can't take care of the baby, you can:

Put it up for adoption
-Allow your relatives or God-parents have it
-Allow someone sterile who can't have children keep it
-Allow some temporarily take care of your child until you are financially ready.
-Get a job, you'll be alright.

You can have fun without doing sex you don't have to have sex in order to have fun. LOL.

Some women have sex because they want a baby and a family, fun is not the only thing Jacob, LOL! Sometimes people do sex in order for the money when you can go to school and get an education. We have kids who are 14 and 13 now stripping for money. Women have to carry the burden of a child not you. Sex is caring for someone else right? Well, when do you call it when a male leaves you with the baby and when you find out your pregnant and claims he's not the father? Does he still care about her? It happens. Don't worry Jacob, you will know the real deal when your older and living on your own.

Just because I have sex does not mean that I am missing out on life. Your going to live a horrible life if you naive about the world and I'm not paranoid I want to have sex when i am married. And you just condradicted you self by saying sex is not for breeding while you said we need sex in order to have children. Wha? I mean, your naive is scary and very dangerous Jacob and people will take advantage of you and use you.

So Jacob, give us some evidence on why you chose "pro-choice" instead of making fun of me because it's obvious that you don't have any evidence on why abortion is good. Tell us why.

Hah you do not know my family background. Just because I was brought up in my own family not to do such a thing, what about my extended family so you just need to be quiet. My aunt got an abortion so what does that tell you? You claim you know everyone's families but you don't.

I guess I'm pro choice.

Excuse Me?
 

I don't like the way that some people on this thread are not respecting the opinions of the other people on the thread. First of all, I do know the difference between a piece of tissue and an infant. I also know right from wrong. Like I said before, there are a plethora of adoption agencies out there and it is not difficult to give up a baby to an adoption agency. Consider this for a minute...How can people not want to give up a baby to an adoption agency after it is born? Because they care about it, obviously. But don't they care about it before it is born? Apparently not, if they have an abortion. If they really cared, they wouldn't kill the baby. The bottom line is, abortion doesn't help anyone. Does it help the unborn child? No, it dies. Does it help the parents? No. 99% of the time, the parents feel guilt and regret afterward. And far, far too many times abortion is used to kill the unborn children of irresponsible partners that didn't use protection. That's my opinion, like it or not. Notice that I didn't attack anyone else's opinion or say that I thought they were stupid.

1. He said he had experience of accidents.

2. I don't really care. Tell me if you wish though.

3. Yes.

Re: Excuse Me?
 

Yeah your right on that Disgruntled Intern, you don't call people stupid and I will get better on not to attack people and I'm sorry and I do agree with your point Intern. Can I please state my reasons why I am against abortion without being criticized? Also, let's end this argument as peacefully as possible. Thanks you very much!:D

Anyways No matter what you do, abortion is not going to solve your problems and trying to rid the fact that you had a baby. If you kill a baby while you are conceived or you had a miscarriage or when your baby died when it was two weeks old, you still had a baby. The parents do regret what they do afterwards epecially the mother. A baby should be a gift not a curse. Does the baby deserve to live? It's not the baby's fault that it's put on this Earth and you kill it? It's not difficult to give up a baby to a adoption agency, your paying more for an abortion than you do to an adoption agency. Allow the baby to experience life. It's selfish because the mom's not thinking about the baby but her own needs.

Don't Understand
 

Pro-choice people tend to think that pro-lifers are old-fashioned and naive. It's not right for people to attack my belief that human life is sacred but people love to do it anyway. I've seen too many stories of people suffocating their children and throwing them in the garbage. I don't see the difference between that and jamming a sharp object into the head of an unborn fetus. That's what they do...They stick a sharp, pointy utensil into the mother and shove it into the head of the fetus. Oh, if fetuses could talk. Wouldn't it be nice if they got to decide whether or not they wanted to live? Science has done some great things but abortion is just an example of how science can do bad things as well. (Oh, and for the people who will take this literally, I do know the difference between jamming a sharp object into a fetuses head and suffocating a baby. I just don't see a difference in principle.)

Sometimes they take out the fetus and burn it, and cut it up. It's sad and nasty. You can see the baby's face and everything and tiny twiny little fwingy wingers. They would throw the burnt baby in the garbage. One baby looked fully developed but about a month old or so.